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DATE 2020-04-20
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] civil liberties in the time of wuhan-19

Civil liberties under attack during COVID-19
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Civil liberties under attack during COVID-19
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Philosopher Bertrand Russell wrote, “Neither a man nor a crowd nor a
nation can be trusted to act humanely or to think sanely under the
influence of great fear.” The United States is now in the grip of such a
fear. It is prostrating before authoritarians in government who have
waited for such a moment and now relish in ordering us indoors.

In loudly applauding the authoritarian shutdown orders of American
governments, many seem to be conflating at least a few separate sets of
issues that relate to different areas of expertise.

The first area of expertise is the epidemiology of COVID-19. It entails
questions of the virus’s contagiousness and deadliness. There are
questions on which there are very significant disagreements (with
important policy implications) and, importantly, very poor data.

A second question is whether cost-benefit analyses favor the draconian
measure of coercively shutting down all of civil society, one that is
fundamentally unanswerable. This question is unanswerable because we
cannot know how much the forcible suppression of civil society will cost
and we won't know the benefits.

Lastly, even if we had perfect data about the characteristics of the
disease, and we were able to perfectly calculate the costs and benefits
of government-mandated shutdowns, we would be confronted nonetheless
with the question of who gets to make such a decision. It’s a social
theory question, not a medical one: how does a comparatively tiny group
of people at the top of government acquire the right to make this call
for all other people. How could anyone or any group attain to such a power?

This seems like an important philosophical question, but it is one that
everyone on every side of the debate has apparently ignored. No one
seems to care whether these few people — and they are just people,
important-sounding titles notwithstanding — either have this power
legitimately or can be trusted to wield it.

Politics is plagued by a do-something bias, which drives elected
officials and bureaucrats to act hastily, scrambling to enact some
policy even when faced with a complete lack of evidence about that
policy’s long term effects.

Economist Robert Higgs has presented the theory of a “ratchet effect” to
explain the growth in the power and scope of government during times of
crisis. Higgs shows that crisis situations afford the state the
opportunity to stretch its power into areas of life that were before
beyond its reach.

The lesson from his work is clear. These layers of government power do
not go away when the crisis subsides, but rather remain, becoming the
new normal. The extremely high level of uncertainty over just how many
people have or have had the virus should make governments hesitant to
implement the extreme measures they have implemented by fiat — and
citizens of a supposedly free country hesitant to accept them so
readily. Of course, that’s not what we’ve seen. We’ve seen credulous,
hyper-fearful Americans close their eyes to the available evidence and
power of their ability to think critically. We might have expected to
see large numbers of Americans question such extreme measures.

Georgetown philosopher Jason Brennan offers a succinct summary of the
problem: “[T]he biggest intellectual lesson we can learn from this is
that, when a crisis hits, the powers that be violate everything we know
about data collection, giving us non-random and unrepresentative samples
from which — as we all learned in week two of methods — you cannot draw
good conclusions.” One thing of which we can be absolutely certain is
that the actual number of coronavirus infections is significantly higher
than the number of confirmed cases today. The Oxford Centre for
Evidence-Based Medicine points out that it’s important to distinguish
between one’s dying from coronavirus and one’s dying while he happens to
have coronavirus. These are the kinds of distinctions that politicians,
eager to exploit an apparent crisis, don’t want ordinary people thinking
about and, importantly, the kinds that ordinary people simply don’t have
time to think about.

The case fatality rate (CFR) represents the number of reported deaths
relative to the number of reported cases of the disease; this value is
biased by the fact that in the early stages of an outbreak, the most
severe cases receive testing. As Hannah Ritchie and Max Roser observe,
“this is not the same as the risk of death for an infected person — even
though, unfortunately, journalists often suggest that it is.” Anyone
trying to focus your attention only on the CFR is either ignorant of the
basics or intentionally trying to mislead you.

The infection fatality rate (IFR), on the other hand, is the answer to
the following question: “if someone is infected with COVID-19, how
likely is it that they will die?” The lack of meaningful data on the
total number of coronavirus cases quite simply means that our best and
brightest — regardless of what politicians and cable news pundits tell
you — have no way of calculating the IFR with anything remotely
approximating accuracy. History offers that the lesson that the IFR is
likely to be much, much lower than we think. The CEBM notes, “Mortality
in children seems to be near zero (unlike flu) which is also reassuring
and will act to drive down the IFR significantly.”

None of this is to say that coronavirus is not dangerous, or that people
shouldn’t voluntarily stay home, avoid large groups of people, or wear
masks. Be responsible and take all of these steps to the extent it’s
possible for you. But the actions of governments to date are many orders
of magnitude more dangerous than this virus, and it’s not even a close
call.

Even if it were the case that going outside when sick somehow violates
other people’s rights, this argument leads us to some troubling
questions. For example, What kinds of communicable diseases function to
void one’s right of free movement? How deadly does the disease have to
be? How contagious?

If one is so determined, he will be able to define harm to others
broadly enough that any dangerous activity is outside of the
individual’s legitimate sphere of autonomy. Of course, this is all to
say nothing of the startling class character of these shutdown orders,
which will have a devastating effect on millions of wage-earning
Americans. Members of the educated professional class have jobs that
enable them to work comfortably from home with very little disruption to
their normal routines.

Behind everything the state says or does, just by definition, is
violence — guns, arrests, imprisonments. Americans seem to have been
successfully conditioned to give up their civil liberties in times of
crisis, to accept completely uncritically the word of politicians and
bureaucrats — people who are no less self-interested than anyone else.
But these times of crisis are when we must be vigilant, guarding our
rights and liberties, watchful of overreach.

David S. D’Amato is an attorney, a columnist at the Cato Institute’s
Libertarianism.org, and a policy advisor to the Heartland Institute and
the Future of Freedom Foundation.
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  81. 2020-04-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Off the Hook: Wuhan(covid-19) virus and your
  82. 2020-04-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Off the Hook: Wuhan(covid-19) virus and your
  83. 2020-04-15 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New York Perl Mongers Virtual Tech April
  84. 2020-04-15 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  85. 2020-04-15 facebook <facebook-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Off the Hook: Wuhan(covid-19) virus and your
  86. 2020-04-16 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Off the Hook: Wuhan(covid-19) virus and your
  87. 2020-04-16 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Off the Hook: Wuhan(covid-19) virus and your
  88. 2020-04-16 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Registration is Open for Summer Session 1
  89. 2020-04-16 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Fwd: [Outreachy] Intern selections due
  90. 2020-04-17 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Conference in the Cloud Newsletter
  91. 2020-04-17 From: "Lulu.com" <lulu-at-emails.lulu.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?b?4pqg77iPIEluZm9ybWF0aW9uIFJlZ2FyZGlu?=
  92. 2020-04-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the end of this lockup
  93. 2020-04-17 From: "Prov Hogan, LMT" <provspa329-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the end of this lockup
  94. 2020-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the end of this lockup
  95. 2020-04-17 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the end of this lockup
  96. 2020-04-17 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the end of this lockup
  97. 2020-04-17 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Covid pics - sign of the times
  98. 2020-04-17 From: "MTA New York City Transit" <response-at-mta.info> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Update from Sarah Feinberg,
  99. 2020-04-18 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the end of this lockup
  100. 2020-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] covid modeling
  101. 2020-04-18 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  102. 2020-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] have you heard about the new normal?
  103. 2020-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] virus lessons
  104. 2020-04-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] civil liberties in the time of wuhan-19
  105. 2020-04-20 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #456 - Conference in the Cloud
  106. 2020-04-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Restricting civil liberties amid the COVID-19
  107. 2020-04-20 NCPA eCommunications <ncpa.ecommunications-at-ncpanet.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Survey: Drug shortage affecting most pharmacies |
  108. 2020-04-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] sars-cov2 info
  109. 2020-04-20 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Message to the LIU Community
  110. 2020-04-21 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Message to the LIU Community | |
  111. 2020-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Message to the LIU Community | |
  112. 2020-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Message to the LIU Community | |
  113. 2020-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Escape from NY
  114. 2020-04-21 From: "Dana Morgenstein, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Summer internships at the FSF! Apply by May 10
  115. 2020-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Wuhan (COVID-19) Virus vaccination - no rush
  116. 2020-04-21 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Message to the LIU Community
  117. 2020-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Salvation es heyr
  118. 2020-04-22 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  119. 2020-04-21 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Join Us for EarthFest 2020 Online!
  120. 2020-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Message to the LIU Community
  121. 2020-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] unrepairable destruction to our culture
  122. 2020-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Civil Rights in the world of WUHAN - EFF
  123. 2020-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Spains children
  124. 2020-04-21 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  125. 2020-04-21 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  126. 2020-04-22 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  127. 2020-04-22 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] tty number
  128. 2020-04-23 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <learn-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Register for an Online Science Course for
  129. 2020-04-21 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  130. 2020-04-21 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  131. 2020-04-22 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  132. 2020-04-22 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] tty number
  133. 2020-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] fair use rules changes
  134. 2020-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] SuperHero's one and all
  135. 2020-04-23 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] LibrePlanet 2020 videos now available online
  136. 2020-04-25 Ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Covid recoveries and cases
  137. 2020-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Epidemic response by Government and Economy -
  138. 2020-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Using Emergency Powers to make a socialist agenda
  139. 2020-04-26 From: "Jon Tennant" <jon.tennant.2-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Absent until further notice Re: Epidemic response
  140. 2020-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the death of america is here,
  141. 2020-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] and for some good news (for the homeless - a new
  142. 2020-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software and Open Scholarship - together
  143. 2020-04-22 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] tty number
  144. 2020-04-25 Christos Nouskas via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] tty number
  145. 2020-04-27 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #457 - Perl on LinkedIn
  146. 2020-04-27 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software and Open Scholarship - together
  147. 2020-04-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software and Open Scholarship - together
  148. 2020-04-27 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Nonfree JS (was: Free Software and Open
  149. 2020-04-27 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Using Emergency Powers to make a socialist
  150. 2020-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Unemployment etc during Covid
  151. 2020-04-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Nonfree JS
  152. 2020-04-27 facebook <facebook-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Using Emergency Powers to make a socialist
  153. 2020-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing
  154. 2020-04-28 Karen Perilman <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing
  155. 2020-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Homelessness on the subway
  156. 2020-04-28 Ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: [dinosaur] Online Live Course Introduction
  157. 2020-04-28 Ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: [dinosaur] Online Live Course Introduction
  158. 2020-04-28 Rani Linarelli <ranirelli-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing
  159. 2020-04-28 Rani Linarelli <ranirelli-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing
  160. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This virus is not just people - now dogs
  161. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Off the Hook: Wuhan(covid-19) virus and your
  162. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  163. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Recommended=3A_The_Data_Scien?=
  164. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  165. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  166. 2020-04-29 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  167. 2020-04-29 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  168. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  169. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  170. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  171. 2020-04-29 Lynn Zacharowicz <lcbraunstein-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  172. 2020-04-29 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  173. 2020-04-28 From: "Pat Schloss" <pdschloss-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [mothur] Upcoming virtual R workshop
  174. 2020-04-29 Lynn Zacharowicz <lcbraunstein-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  175. 2020-04-29 George Moskowitz MD <yehudazev-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  176. 2020-04-29 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  177. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  178. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  179. 2020-04-29 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  180. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  181. 2020-04-29 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  182. 2020-04-29 Karen Perilman <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  183. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  184. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  185. 2020-04-29 shulie <shulie_release-at-optimum.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  186. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  187. 2020-04-29 shulie <shulie_release-at-optimum.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  188. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  189. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the rush for a vaccinine... etc etc
  190. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  191. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] What kills the likes of Jon Tenent and RMS
  192. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] C++ god - on video
  193. 2020-04-29 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  194. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Give you kids up to Good or be reported to the
  195. 2020-04-29 Karen Perilman <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Give you kids up to Good or be reported to
  196. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] mind your pronounes...
  197. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  198. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  199. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  200. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Give you kids up to Good or be reported to
  201. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?COVID_=E2=80=93_19=3A_A_Critical_Ont?=
  202. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] covid-19 lockdown pushback
  203. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ayaan Hirsi Ali and a new generation
  204. 2020-04-30 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  205. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] OK - time to change the phone system
  206. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Phone systems
  207. 2020-04-30 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <learn-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Register for a Summer Session Today
  208. 2020-04-30 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Give you kids up to Good or be reported to
  209. 2020-04-30 ruth02-at-web.de Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Phone systems
  210. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Phone systems
  211. 2020-04-30 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  212. 2020-04-30 From: "Speaker Corey Johnson" <SpeakerJohnson-at-council.nyc.gov> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?COVID-19=3A_Weekly_Update_=26_Resour?=
  213. 2020-04-30 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  214. 2020-04-30 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ayaan Hirsi Ali and a new generation
  215. 2020-04-30 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Virtual LibrePlanet raffle: Encourage others to
  216. 2020-04-30 Orthodox Union <alerts-at-ounetwork.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] OU Today: Donate Plasma, OU-JLIC In the Spotlight
  217. 2020-04-30 ruth02-at-web.de Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Das is the Dr.'s decision - procure the
  218. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  219. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  220. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Give you kids up to Good or be reported to
  221. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] covid-19 lockdown pushback
  222. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] covid-19 lockdown pushback
  223. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why the government drags vaccination development
  224. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 4% mortality rate according to the City
  225. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] kids won't sit still..
  226. 2020-04-30 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  227. 2020-04-30 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  228. 2020-04-30 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  229. 2020-04-06 Peter Maydell <peter.maydell-at-linaro.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] QEMU participation to Google Season of Docs
  230. 2020-04-06 Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini-at-redhat.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] QEMU participation to Google Season of Docs

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