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Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
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they are using prophylatic heparin drips, wouldn't criteria for steptokinas=
e exclude its use once a pt is started on Heparin drip?=C2=A0

-----Original Message-----
From: Ruben Safir
To: Carolinedliny ; docs-at-mrbrklyn.com; Hangout out-at-nylxs.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 10:58 am
Subject: Re: good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)

On 4/29/20 9:59 AM, Carolinedliny wrote:
> I don't know that everything here is accurate, I talk to my colleagues
> in the ICU and they tell me they are putting pts on heparin drips, they
> are using 100% oxygen, and/or high flow o2=C2=A0 in an attempt to prevent
> hypoxia/desat without using mechanical ventilation
>=20

I'm not certain that these two things are inconsistant.=C2=A0 First of all,
Heparin is not a Thrombolytic, so it is nto going to break clots down,
but prevents growth of new clots.=C2=A0 That would be consitant with what
Keren is saying.=C2=A0 However, real clot busters, for pulmonary embolism,
streptokinase and friends, are they being used at all.=C2=A0 The granularit=
y
is being SEEN on the xrays.

Regardless, why are shut down?=C2=A0 My college at St Barnabas has been
begrudging this from the beginning, rightfully so, and he is at ground
zero of this virus in the Bronx.


>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruben Safir
> To: Karen Perilman ; Hangout ; Liz
> Moore
> Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 2:53 am
> Subject: Re: good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
>=20
>=20
> One more thing... the women who some might think uses capital letters is
> a Nurse Anesthesiaologist who spent good part of her life working with
> Doctors without Boarders...=C2=A0 threating patients and populations in A=
frica.
>=20
> Karen, meet, Rick.=C2=A0 Rick, meet Karen.
>=20
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Side note to Liz -
> I've been told today that Pharmacists aren't experts on vaccinations so
> our opinion doesn't hold much weight....
>=20
> Just for reference, I point out the paper that Liz and I wrong on
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com/
>=20
> to continue on this thread...
>=20
> On to Karen...
>=20
> On 4/28/20 8:09 PM, Karen Perilman wrote:
>> =C3=83=C2=AF=C3=82=C2=BB=C3=82=C2=BF
>> =C3=83=C2=AF=C3=82=C2=BB=C3=82=C2=BFRuben,
>> It=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s been a long ti=
me since we spoke,
>=20
> That is your fault!=C2=A0 I periodically send you email :)
>=20
>> And I must tell you, this message you sent came as a surprise,
>=20
> Call me when you have time 718-715-1771
>=20
>>
>> First of all, the patients that were first largely infected in Europe,
> Italy and Spain were knee jerk treated with intubation and ventilation.
>> I say knee jerk, because never before had they seen so many people
> with the same symptoms in mass like this.
>>
>> Never mind the Chinese allowed 5 million INFECTED people to leave
> China up to Jan 20th and go to work in Italy and Spain, the fashion cente=
r.
>> How do i know, because my daughter is the head senior designer for
> women in Spain for the company Zara.=C2=A0 They have so many Chinese work=
ing
> there, and their industry is in the HUB of China.
>>
>> And in October 18-19th the International militaries all met in Wuhan
> for the WUhan games for 100 COUNTRIES.=C2=A0 ANd when the games were over=
,
> all those 100 countries became infected.....=C2=A0
>>
>> Now, go back to where we were....
>> All these people presenting with Shortness of breath we MISDIAGNOSED
> FROM THE GET GO.
>> WHy do I say this, because maybe you forgot I am an anesthetist.
>=20
>=20
> I haven't forgotten anything.=C2=A0 Are you in New York now?
>=20
>> The presentation of SOB was way off the standards of evaluation for SOB.
>> The Corona is a virus that spread thru droplets as does EVERY OTHER VIRU=
S.
>> But we never reacted like this before.
>=20
> I say this until I am blue in the face.=C2=A0 We have NEVER reacted like =
this
> to even Small Pox!!
>=20
>=20
>> Here is why we shouldn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=
=C2=A2t have.
>> I spoke with the head oncologist at a NY Cancer hospital....
>> I also spoke with the head neurologist at Northwell Hospitals and all
> of us said the same thing.
>>
>=20
> We've been working with St Barbaus and they just said the same thing in
> the NY Post today,,
>=20
>> The SOB from Corona patients was unlike a person with pneumonia or ARDS.
>> Patients were talking and even on the phones, and showing low Puse OX
> readings.
>> In Italy they didn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2=
t have the time to asses as they were
> barraged with patients,
>> They ran out of ventilators when that was ACTUALLY what was killing
> people.
>> Sick lungs under PEEP and ventilation only causes more problems and
> patients vaso constrict and organs shut down,=C2=A0 and FAST, especially =
in
> the elderly.
>=20
> This I didn't know and I don't understand.=C2=A0 The ICU is packed in the
> Bronx with people on vents undergoing ID evaluation.=C2=A0 In the end, th=
ere
> is not much I can do for them other than take the states and track
> infection.=C2=A0 Infection contol on the floors is the biggest problem we=
have.
>=20
>>
>> But in the US, NO ONE took the time to look at the reason people were
> SOB and they ASSUMED it was a viral infection, Corona.....
>>
>> BIG MISTAKE!
>> Now, looking back, we know now, that after autopsies, the patients
> lungs and bodies were filled with CLOTS!!!=C2=A0
>=20
> Bilateral Granularity on the Xrays.=C2=A0 We don't even need testing for
> this.=C2=A0 It is a presumptive diagnosis already.
>=20
> The patients were actually acting like someone with pulmonary embolism.
> The clots killed people with heart attacks and Strokes!!!!
>>
>> So where did this information take the doctors who were in the know.
>> In NY and the UK, they started realizing that the patients who were on
> blood thinners and anti inflammatories had NO clots and they were mildly
> sick and got better.
>=20
>> Those patients, in particular were Cancer patients who as you know are
> compromised immunologically.
>>
>=20
> I have data clearly showing me that pts on Chemo and with advanced
> cancer don't survive this.=C2=A0 They won't even ventolate those patients=
at
> this point.=C2=A0 So please explain this further.
>=20
> BTW - the virus attacks clotting factors, and causes prolong PT times,
> but frankly, that is common with cytosine storms, so I am not convinced
> of that data.
>=20
>> They tested the patients clotting times and saw the proof in the blood.
>> Waiting for a vaccine to kill a virus that will be obsolete in a year
> is ridiculous when we know how to treat the patients NOW.
>>
>> If someone presents to the ER with SOB, they should have been assessed
> to rule out for=C2=A0 clots.
>>
>> A retro study, and a study that moves forward should be done immediately=
,
>> BUT because the cure for the clots is CHEAP, no one is going to
> recommend ASPIRIN or Azithromycin because they won=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=
=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t be able to
> make MONEY.
>>
>=20
> This has been a recurring problem.=C2=A0 It is almost like they are purpo=
sely
> misusing Hydroxychloroquin, which can only work in the early phase of
> the disease, in order to make way for other thearpies, and those
> therapies, Remdesivir, Kaletra, Nitazoxanide, Tocilizumab, etc.=C2=A0 All=
of
> them cost over $2K per treatment.=C2=A0 My friend Maya, who is a PharmD, =
she
> was big on this point. They are not acting in a way that is consistant
> with a disease that shuts down civilization.=C2=A0 They are telling us we=
are
> in moral danger and the numbers don't bare it out and they aren't acting
> like it is that serious.
>=20
>> The mayor NY and the governor are 100% assholes.
>> We have NEVER quarantined in the history of illness HEALTHY PEOPLE!!
>> Sick people yes, and they should be isolated at home.
>=20
> It is unbelievable.=C2=A0 Never in my lifetime could I have ever imagined=
this.
>=20
>=20
>> If you go to any NY hospital now in the city,=C2=A0 if you show ANY sign=
s
> of SOB you are intubated and you DIE!!!!=C2=A0 They do not resuscitate an=
yone
> suspected of corona!!
>> That=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s insane..... =
If the reason people are dying are the
> clots, they NO ONE should be intubated and they should emergently be
> give blood thinners.
>>
>> The elderly are being treated like disposable spoilers of this virus.=C2=
=A0
> They die alone and it=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=
=A2s criminal.
>>
>=20
> How do you then prevent an anurism..
>=20
>=20
>> I will not fall for the BS of waiting for a vaccine, because patients
> being treated right now with the new paradigm are surviving and getting
> better quicker.
>>
>> No patient population compares to the cancer patients who were found
> to be Safe from the extreme sickness of Corona because so many of their
> patients were on blood thinners.=C2=A0
>> The evidence is there.
>> Even the Young patients that died, died from Strokes.!!!
>> No one is talking about the patients that contracted corona who were
> described as =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=85=E2=80=9Chealthy=C3=
=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=EF=BF=BD who SMOKE; it is a joke.=C2=
=A0 Smokers are
> NOT healthy, not if they smoke anything,=C2=A0 pot, vaping or cigarettes.
>> I see people on the streets with masks and gloves SMOKING and
> it=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s a joke.
>> THey are blowing Corona and adding to the contaminating of all of us.
>> I see people wearing masks and gloves throwing them in the streets,
> not using them properly, and I tell them, will all this costuming, they
> would never be allowed in the ICU to work because they have no idea how
> to used sterile masks and gloves.
>>
>> If you want to be mad, get mad with the medical system in NY fueled by
> political idiots that want to see the economy fail, so they can blame
> politics.
>> Even Fauci, that =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=85=E2=80=9CStatist=
ician=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=EF=BF=BD is out of the loop.=
=C2=A0 He
> hasn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t practiced med=
icine in 20 yrs!!=C2=A0 And he is nothing but an
> accountant for the numbers that other people give him.
>>
>> THis is BS,=C2=A0 I don=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=
=C2=A2t give a shit about politics...
>> I do care that we are being used for this political experiment.
>=20
>=20
> 100%
>=20
>=20
>> The economy should have NEVER been shut down.
>=20
>=20
> A strong economy is our leading weapon to fight the disease.
>=20
>=20
>> It=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s laughable that=
all the markets and stores that are open
> are crowded and no one has stopped shopping.
>>
>> Maybe they should try putting the voter machines in Target or Walmart...=
..
>> Then we could vote out these morons that crashed our economy when the
> answer to save people was right under our noses.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Ruben Safir > > wrote:
>>>
>>> =C3=83=C2=AF=C3=82=C2=BB=C3=82=C2=BF
>>> We wouldn't want to distribute anything until we are absolutely sure it
>>> is safe, because WTF!!=C2=A0 11K are already dead in NYC alone and 23mi=
llion
>>> are on indefinite lockdown!
>>>
>>> Take your time boys.=C2=A0 Make sure you get it right..
>>>
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Wall Street Journal today:
>>>
>>> Pfizer could start distributing a possible vaccine on an emergency basi=
s
>>> in the fall if all testing proves successful.
>>> Photo: Sipa USA via AP
>>> By Jared S. Hopkins
>>> April 28, 2020 1:14 pm ET
>>>
>>> Pfizer Inc. PFE -1.10% said Tuesday it could have a coronavirus vaccine
>>> ready for use on an emergency basis in the fall if it proves to work
>>> safely in testing.
>>>
>>> Testing of the vaccine, which has already started in Germany, could
>>> start in the U.S. as early as next week if health regulators sign off,
>>> Pfizer Chief Executive Albert Bourla said in an interview. Results from
>>> the study could come as early as next month, Mr. Bourla said.
>>>
>>> Pfizer would need to do more testing to make sure the vaccine works
>>> safely. If all testing proves successful, Pfizer could start
>>> distributing the vaccine on an emergency basis in the fall and receive
>>> approval for widespread distribution by year=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=
=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s end, Mr. Bourla
> said.
>>>
>>> =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=85=E2=80=9CThis is a crisis right =
now, and a solution is desperately
> needed by
>>> all,=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=EF=BF=BD Mr. Bourla said.
>>> --
>>> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
>>> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
>>> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>>> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>>> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>>>
>>> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development
> in Free Software
>>> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>>>
>>> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
>>> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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> --=20
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>=20
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in
> Free Software
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>=20
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013


--=20
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002

http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www.brooklyn-living.com

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but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013

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they are using prophylatic hep=
arin drips, wouldn't criteria for steptokinase exclude its use once a pt is=
started on Heparin drip? 




-----=
Original Message-----

From: Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com>

To: Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com>; docs-at-mrbrklyn.com; Hangout=
<hangout-at-nylxs.com>

Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 10:58 am

Subject: Re: good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)




On 4/29/20 9:59 AM, Carolinedliny wrote:



> I don't know that everything here is accurate, I talk=
to my colleagues



> in the ICU and they tell me they are putting pts on h=
eparin drips, they



> are using 100% oxygen, and/or high flow o2  in a=
n attempt to prevent



> hypoxia/desat without using mechanical ventilation>


>







I'm not certain that these two things are inconsistant.&nb=
sp; First of all,



Heparin is not a Thrombolytic, so it is nto going to break=
clots down,



but prevents growth of new clots.  That would be cons=
itant with what



Keren is saying.  However, real clot busters, for pul=
monary embolism,



streptokinase and friends, are they being used at all.&nbs=
p; The granularity



is being SEEN on the xrays.







Regardless, why are shut down?  My college at St Barn=
abas has been



begrudging this from the beginning, rightfully so, and he =
is at ground



zero of this virus in the Bronx.











>



> -----Original Message-----









> Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 2:53 am



> Subject: Re: good thing they are rushing (the vaccine=
s)



>



>



> One more thing... the women who some might think uses=
capital letters is



> a Nurse Anesthesiaologist who spent good part of her =
life working with



> Doctors without Boarders...  threating patients =
and populations in Africa.



>



> Karen, meet, Rick.  Rick, meet Karen.



>



> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=
~~~~~~~~~~~~~



> Side note to Liz -



> I've been told today that Pharmacists aren't experts =
on vaccinations so



> our opinion doesn't hold much weight....



>



> Just for reference, I point out the paper that Liz an=
d I wrong on





>



> to continue on this thread...



>



> On to Karen...



>



> On 4/28/20 8:09 PM, Karen Perilman wrote:



>> =C3=83=C2=AF=C3=82=C2=BB=C3=82=C2=BF



>> =C3=83=C2=AF=C3=82=C2=BB=C3=82=C2=BFRuben,



>> It=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=
=9E=C2=A2s been a long time since we spoke,



>



> That is your fault!  I periodically send you ema=
il :)



>



>> And I must tell you, this message you sent came a=
s a surprise,



>



> Call me when you have time 718-715-1771



>



>>



>> First of all, the patients that were first largel=
y infected in Europe,



> Italy and Spain were knee jerk treated with intubatio=
n and ventilation.



>> I say knee jerk, because never before had they se=
en so many people



> with the same symptoms in mass like this.



>>



>> Never mind the Chinese allowed 5 million INFECTED=
people to leave



> China up to Jan 20th and go to work in Italy and Spai=
n, the fashion center.



>> How do i know, because my daughter is the head se=
nior designer for



> women in Spain for the company Zara.  They have =
so many Chinese working



> there, and their industry is in the HUB of China.



>>



>> And in October 18-19th the International militari=
es all met in Wuhan



> for the WUhan games for 100 COUNTRIES.  ANd when=
the games were over,



> all those 100 countries became infected..... >


>>



>> Now, go back to where we were....



>> All these people presenting with Shortness of bre=
ath we MISDIAGNOSED



> FROM THE GET GO.



>> WHy do I say this, because maybe you forgot I am =
an anesthetist.



>



>



> I haven't forgotten anything.  Are you in New Yo=
rk now?



>



>> The presentation of SOB was way off the standards=
of evaluation for SOB.



>> The Corona is a virus that spread thru droplets a=
s does EVERY OTHER VIRUS.



>> But we never reacted like this before.



>



> I say this until I am blue in the face.  We have=
NEVER reacted like this



> to even Small Pox!!



>



>



>> Here is why we shouldn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=
=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t have.



>> I spoke with the head oncologist at a NY Cancer h=
ospital....



>> I also spoke with the head neurologist at Northwe=
ll Hospitals and all



> of us said the same thing.



>>



>



> We've been working with St Barbaus and they just said=
the same thing in



> the NY Post today,,



>



>> The SOB from Corona patients was unlike a person =
with pneumonia or ARDS.



>> Patients were talking and even on the phones, and=
showing low Puse OX



> readings.



>> In Italy they didn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=
=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t have the time to asses as they were



> barraged with patients,



>> They ran out of ventilators when that was ACTUALL=
Y what was killing



> people.



>> Sick lungs under PEEP and ventilation only causes=
more problems and



> patients vaso constrict and organs shut down,  a=
nd FAST, especially in



> the elderly.



>



> This I didn't know and I don't understand.  The =
ICU is packed in the



> Bronx with people on vents undergoing ID evaluation.&=
nbsp; In the end, there



> is not much I can do for them other than take the sta=
tes and track



> infection.  Infection contol on the floors is th=
e biggest problem we have.



>



>>



>> But in the US, NO ONE took the time to look at th=
e reason people were



> SOB and they ASSUMED it was a viral infection, Corona=
.....



>>



>> BIG MISTAKE!



>> Now, looking back, we know now, that after autops=
ies, the patients



> lungs and bodies were filled with CLOTS!!! 



>



> Bilateral Granularity on the Xrays.  We don't ev=
en need testing for



> this.  It is a presumptive diagnosis already.>


>



> The patients were actually acting like someone with p=
ulmonary embolism.



> The clots killed people with heart attacks and Stroke=
s!!!!



>>



>> So where did this information take the doctors wh=
o were in the know.



>> In NY and the UK, they started realizing that the=
patients who were on



> blood thinners and anti inflammatories had NO clots a=
nd they were mildly



> sick and got better.



>



>> Those patients, in particular were Cancer patient=
s who as you know are



> compromised immunologically.



>>



>



> I have data clearly showing me that pts on Chemo and =
with advanced



> cancer don't survive this.  They won't even vent=
olate those patients at



> this point.  So please explain this further.



>



> BTW - the virus attacks clotting factors, and causes =
prolong PT times,



> but frankly, that is common with cytosine storms, so =
I am not convinced



> of that data.



>



>> They tested the patients clotting times and saw t=
he proof in the blood.



>> Waiting for a vaccine to kill a virus that will b=
e obsolete in a year



> is ridiculous when we know how to treat the patients =
NOW.



>>



>> If someone presents to the ER with SOB, they shou=
ld have been assessed



> to rule out for  clots.



>>



>> A retro study, and a study that moves forward sho=
uld be done immediately,



>> BUT because the cure for the clots is CHEAP, no o=
ne is going to



> recommend ASPIRIN or Azithromycin because they won=C3=
=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t be able to



> make MONEY.



>>



>



> This has been a recurring problem.  It is almost=
like they are purposely



> misusing Hydroxychloroquin, which can only work in th=
e early phase of



> the disease, in order to make way for other thearpies=
, and those



> therapies, Remdesivir, Kaletra, Nitazoxanide, Tociliz=
umab, etc.  All of



> them cost over $2K per treatment.  My friend May=
a, who is a PharmD, she



> was big on this point. They are not acting in a way t=
hat is consistant



> with a disease that shuts down civilization.  Th=
ey are telling us we are



> in moral danger and the numbers don't bare it out and=
they aren't acting



> like it is that serious.



>



>> The mayor NY and the governor are 100% assholes.<=
br>


>> We have NEVER quarantined in the history of illne=
ss HEALTHY PEOPLE!!



>> Sick people yes, and they should be isolated at h=
ome.



>



> It is unbelievable.  Never in my lifetime could =
I have ever imagined this.



>



>



>> If you go to any NY hospital now in the city,&nbs=
p; if you show ANY signs



> of SOB you are intubated and you DIE!!!!  They d=
o not resuscitate anyone



> suspected of corona!!



>> That=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=
=9E=C2=A2s insane..... If the reason people are dying are the



> clots, they NO ONE should be intubated and they shoul=
d emergently be



> give blood thinners.



>>



>> The elderly are being treated like disposable spo=
ilers of this virus. 



> They die alone and it=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=
=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s criminal.



>>



>



> How do you then prevent an anurism..



>



>



>> I will not fall for the BS of waiting for a vacci=
ne, because patients



> being treated right now with the new paradigm are sur=
viving and getting



> better quicker.



>>



>> No patient population compares to the cancer pati=
ents who were found



> to be Safe from the extreme sickness of Corona becaus=
e so many of their



> patients were on blood thinners. 



>> The evidence is there.



>> Even the Young patients that died, died from Stro=
kes.!!!



>> No one is talking about the patients that contrac=
ted corona who were



> described as =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=85=
=E2=80=9Chealthy=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=C2=9D who SMOKE; it=
is a joke.  Smokers are



> NOT healthy, not if they smoke anything,  pot, v=
aping or cigarettes.



>> I see people on the streets with masks and gloves=
SMOKING and



> it=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=
=A2s a joke.



>> THey are blowing Corona and adding to the contami=
nating of all of us.



>> I see people wearing masks and gloves throwing th=
em in the streets,



> not using them properly, and I tell them, will all th=
is costuming, they



> would never be allowed in the ICU to work because the=
y have no idea how



> to used sterile masks and gloves.



>>



>> If you want to be mad, get mad with the medical s=
ystem in NY fueled by



> political idiots that want to see the economy fail, s=
o they can blame



> politics.



>> Even Fauci, that =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=
=AC=C3=85=E2=80=9CStatistician=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=C2=9D=
is out of the loop.  He



> hasn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=
=C2=A2t practiced medicine in 20 yrs!!  And he is nothing but an



> accountant for the numbers that other people give him=
.



>>



>> THis is BS,  I don=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=
=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t give a shit about politics...



>> I do care that we are being used for this politic=
al experiment.



>



>



> 100%



>



>



>> The economy should have NEVER been shut down.



>



>



> A strong economy is our leading weapon to fight the d=
isease.



>



>



>> It=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=
=9E=C2=A2s laughable that all the markets and stores that are open



> are crowded and no one has stopped shopping.



>>



>> Maybe they should try putting the voter machines =
in Target or Walmart.....



>> Then we could vote out these morons that crashed =
our economy when the



> answer to save people was right under our noses.



>>



>>



>>



>>



>> Sent from my iPad



>>



>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Ruben Safir <=
>ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com





>>>



>>> =C3=83=C2=AF=C3=82=C2=BB=C3=82=C2=BF



>>> We wouldn't want to distribute anything until=
we are absolutely sure it



>>> is safe, because WTF!!  11K are already =
dead in NYC alone and 23million



>>> are on indefinite lockdown!



>>>



>>> Take your time boys.  Make sure you get =
it right..



>>>



>>>



>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



>>> Wall Street Journal today:



>>>



>>> Pfizer could start distributing a possible va=
ccine on an emergency basis



>>> in the fall if all testing proves successful.=




>>> Photo: Sipa USA via AP



>>> By Jared S. Hopkins



>>> April 28, 2020 1:14 pm ET



>>>



>>> Pfizer Inc. PFE -1.10% said Tuesday it could =
have a coronavirus vaccine



>>> ready for use on an emergency basis in the fa=
ll if it proves to work



>>> safely in testing.



>>>



>>> Testing of the vaccine, which has already sta=
rted in Germany, could



>>> start in the U.S. as early as next week if he=
alth regulators sign off,



>>> Pfizer Chief Executive Albert Bourla said in =
an interview. Results from



>>> the study could come as early as next month, =
Mr. Bourla said.



>>>



>>> Pfizer would need to do more testing to make =
sure the vaccine works



>>> safely. If all testing proves successful, Pfi=
zer could start



>>> distributing the vaccine on an emergency basi=
s in the fall and receive



>>> approval for widespread distribution by year=
=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s end, Mr. Bourla



> said.



>>>



>>> =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=85=E2=80=
=9CThis is a crisis right now, and a solution is desperately



> needed by



>>> all,=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=
=C2=9D Mr. Bourla said.



>>> --



>>> So many immigrant groups have swept through o=
ur town



>>> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mytholo=
gical



>>> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Saf=
ir 1998





>>> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI S=
afir 2002



>>>





> in Free Software





>>>



>>> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and exte=
rmination camps,



>>> but incompatible with living as a free human =
being. -RI Safir 2013



>



>



> --



> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town<=
br>


> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological>


> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998<=
br>




> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 200=
2



>





> Free Software





>



> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and exterminatio=
n camps,



> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -=
RI Safir 2013











--



So many immigrant groups have swept through our town



that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological



proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998





DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002







http:/=
/www.nylxs.com
- Leadership Development in Free Software









Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination cam=
ps,



but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Sa=
fir 2013





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they are using prophylatic heparin drips, wouldn't criteria for steptokinas=
e exclude its use once a pt is started on Heparin drip?=C2=A0

-----Original Message-----
From: Ruben Safir
To: Carolinedliny ; docs-at-mrbrklyn.com; Hangout out-at-nylxs.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 10:58 am
Subject: Re: good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)

On 4/29/20 9:59 AM, Carolinedliny wrote:
> I don't know that everything here is accurate, I talk to my colleagues
> in the ICU and they tell me they are putting pts on heparin drips, they
> are using 100% oxygen, and/or high flow o2=C2=A0 in an attempt to prevent
> hypoxia/desat without using mechanical ventilation
>=20

I'm not certain that these two things are inconsistant.=C2=A0 First of all,
Heparin is not a Thrombolytic, so it is nto going to break clots down,
but prevents growth of new clots.=C2=A0 That would be consitant with what
Keren is saying.=C2=A0 However, real clot busters, for pulmonary embolism,
streptokinase and friends, are they being used at all.=C2=A0 The granularit=
y
is being SEEN on the xrays.

Regardless, why are shut down?=C2=A0 My college at St Barnabas has been
begrudging this from the beginning, rightfully so, and he is at ground
zero of this virus in the Bronx.


>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruben Safir
> To: Karen Perilman ; Hangout ; Liz
> Moore
> Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 2:53 am
> Subject: Re: good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
>=20
>=20
> One more thing... the women who some might think uses capital letters is
> a Nurse Anesthesiaologist who spent good part of her life working with
> Doctors without Boarders...=C2=A0 threating patients and populations in A=
frica.
>=20
> Karen, meet, Rick.=C2=A0 Rick, meet Karen.
>=20
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Side note to Liz -
> I've been told today that Pharmacists aren't experts on vaccinations so
> our opinion doesn't hold much weight....
>=20
> Just for reference, I point out the paper that Liz and I wrong on
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com/
>=20
> to continue on this thread...
>=20
> On to Karen...
>=20
> On 4/28/20 8:09 PM, Karen Perilman wrote:
>> =C3=83=C2=AF=C3=82=C2=BB=C3=82=C2=BF
>> =C3=83=C2=AF=C3=82=C2=BB=C3=82=C2=BFRuben,
>> It=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s been a long ti=
me since we spoke,
>=20
> That is your fault!=C2=A0 I periodically send you email :)
>=20
>> And I must tell you, this message you sent came as a surprise,
>=20
> Call me when you have time 718-715-1771
>=20
>>
>> First of all, the patients that were first largely infected in Europe,
> Italy and Spain were knee jerk treated with intubation and ventilation.
>> I say knee jerk, because never before had they seen so many people
> with the same symptoms in mass like this.
>>
>> Never mind the Chinese allowed 5 million INFECTED people to leave
> China up to Jan 20th and go to work in Italy and Spain, the fashion cente=
r.
>> How do i know, because my daughter is the head senior designer for
> women in Spain for the company Zara.=C2=A0 They have so many Chinese work=
ing
> there, and their industry is in the HUB of China.
>>
>> And in October 18-19th the International militaries all met in Wuhan
> for the WUhan games for 100 COUNTRIES.=C2=A0 ANd when the games were over=
,
> all those 100 countries became infected.....=C2=A0
>>
>> Now, go back to where we were....
>> All these people presenting with Shortness of breath we MISDIAGNOSED
> FROM THE GET GO.
>> WHy do I say this, because maybe you forgot I am an anesthetist.
>=20
>=20
> I haven't forgotten anything.=C2=A0 Are you in New York now?
>=20
>> The presentation of SOB was way off the standards of evaluation for SOB.
>> The Corona is a virus that spread thru droplets as does EVERY OTHER VIRU=
S.
>> But we never reacted like this before.
>=20
> I say this until I am blue in the face.=C2=A0 We have NEVER reacted like =
this
> to even Small Pox!!
>=20
>=20
>> Here is why we shouldn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=
=C2=A2t have.
>> I spoke with the head oncologist at a NY Cancer hospital....
>> I also spoke with the head neurologist at Northwell Hospitals and all
> of us said the same thing.
>>
>=20
> We've been working with St Barbaus and they just said the same thing in
> the NY Post today,,
>=20
>> The SOB from Corona patients was unlike a person with pneumonia or ARDS.
>> Patients were talking and even on the phones, and showing low Puse OX
> readings.
>> In Italy they didn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2=
t have the time to asses as they were
> barraged with patients,
>> They ran out of ventilators when that was ACTUALLY what was killing
> people.
>> Sick lungs under PEEP and ventilation only causes more problems and
> patients vaso constrict and organs shut down,=C2=A0 and FAST, especially =
in
> the elderly.
>=20
> This I didn't know and I don't understand.=C2=A0 The ICU is packed in the
> Bronx with people on vents undergoing ID evaluation.=C2=A0 In the end, th=
ere
> is not much I can do for them other than take the states and track
> infection.=C2=A0 Infection contol on the floors is the biggest problem we=
have.
>=20
>>
>> But in the US, NO ONE took the time to look at the reason people were
> SOB and they ASSUMED it was a viral infection, Corona.....
>>
>> BIG MISTAKE!
>> Now, looking back, we know now, that after autopsies, the patients
> lungs and bodies were filled with CLOTS!!!=C2=A0
>=20
> Bilateral Granularity on the Xrays.=C2=A0 We don't even need testing for
> this.=C2=A0 It is a presumptive diagnosis already.
>=20
> The patients were actually acting like someone with pulmonary embolism.
> The clots killed people with heart attacks and Strokes!!!!
>>
>> So where did this information take the doctors who were in the know.
>> In NY and the UK, they started realizing that the patients who were on
> blood thinners and anti inflammatories had NO clots and they were mildly
> sick and got better.
>=20
>> Those patients, in particular were Cancer patients who as you know are
> compromised immunologically.
>>
>=20
> I have data clearly showing me that pts on Chemo and with advanced
> cancer don't survive this.=C2=A0 They won't even ventolate those patients=
at
> this point.=C2=A0 So please explain this further.
>=20
> BTW - the virus attacks clotting factors, and causes prolong PT times,
> but frankly, that is common with cytosine storms, so I am not convinced
> of that data.
>=20
>> They tested the patients clotting times and saw the proof in the blood.
>> Waiting for a vaccine to kill a virus that will be obsolete in a year
> is ridiculous when we know how to treat the patients NOW.
>>
>> If someone presents to the ER with SOB, they should have been assessed
> to rule out for=C2=A0 clots.
>>
>> A retro study, and a study that moves forward should be done immediately=
,
>> BUT because the cure for the clots is CHEAP, no one is going to
> recommend ASPIRIN or Azithromycin because they won=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=
=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t be able to
> make MONEY.
>>
>=20
> This has been a recurring problem.=C2=A0 It is almost like they are purpo=
sely
> misusing Hydroxychloroquin, which can only work in the early phase of
> the disease, in order to make way for other thearpies, and those
> therapies, Remdesivir, Kaletra, Nitazoxanide, Tocilizumab, etc.=C2=A0 All=
of
> them cost over $2K per treatment.=C2=A0 My friend Maya, who is a PharmD, =
she
> was big on this point. They are not acting in a way that is consistant
> with a disease that shuts down civilization.=C2=A0 They are telling us we=
are
> in moral danger and the numbers don't bare it out and they aren't acting
> like it is that serious.
>=20
>> The mayor NY and the governor are 100% assholes.
>> We have NEVER quarantined in the history of illness HEALTHY PEOPLE!!
>> Sick people yes, and they should be isolated at home.
>=20
> It is unbelievable.=C2=A0 Never in my lifetime could I have ever imagined=
this.
>=20
>=20
>> If you go to any NY hospital now in the city,=C2=A0 if you show ANY sign=
s
> of SOB you are intubated and you DIE!!!!=C2=A0 They do not resuscitate an=
yone
> suspected of corona!!
>> That=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s insane..... =
If the reason people are dying are the
> clots, they NO ONE should be intubated and they should emergently be
> give blood thinners.
>>
>> The elderly are being treated like disposable spoilers of this virus.=C2=
=A0
> They die alone and it=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=
=A2s criminal.
>>
>=20
> How do you then prevent an anurism..
>=20
>=20
>> I will not fall for the BS of waiting for a vaccine, because patients
> being treated right now with the new paradigm are surviving and getting
> better quicker.
>>
>> No patient population compares to the cancer patients who were found
> to be Safe from the extreme sickness of Corona because so many of their
> patients were on blood thinners.=C2=A0
>> The evidence is there.
>> Even the Young patients that died, died from Strokes.!!!
>> No one is talking about the patients that contracted corona who were
> described as =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=85=E2=80=9Chealthy=C3=
=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=EF=BF=BD who SMOKE; it is a joke.=C2=
=A0 Smokers are
> NOT healthy, not if they smoke anything,=C2=A0 pot, vaping or cigarettes.
>> I see people on the streets with masks and gloves SMOKING and
> it=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s a joke.
>> THey are blowing Corona and adding to the contaminating of all of us.
>> I see people wearing masks and gloves throwing them in the streets,
> not using them properly, and I tell them, will all this costuming, they
> would never be allowed in the ICU to work because they have no idea how
> to used sterile masks and gloves.
>>
>> If you want to be mad, get mad with the medical system in NY fueled by
> political idiots that want to see the economy fail, so they can blame
> politics.
>> Even Fauci, that =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=85=E2=80=9CStatist=
ician=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=EF=BF=BD is out of the loop.=
=C2=A0 He
> hasn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t practiced med=
icine in 20 yrs!!=C2=A0 And he is nothing but an
> accountant for the numbers that other people give him.
>>
>> THis is BS,=C2=A0 I don=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=
=C2=A2t give a shit about politics...
>> I do care that we are being used for this political experiment.
>=20
>=20
> 100%
>=20
>=20
>> The economy should have NEVER been shut down.
>=20
>=20
> A strong economy is our leading weapon to fight the disease.
>=20
>=20
>> It=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s laughable that=
all the markets and stores that are open
> are crowded and no one has stopped shopping.
>>
>> Maybe they should try putting the voter machines in Target or Walmart...=
..
>> Then we could vote out these morons that crashed our economy when the
> answer to save people was right under our noses.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Ruben Safir > > wrote:
>>>
>>> =C3=83=C2=AF=C3=82=C2=BB=C3=82=C2=BF
>>> We wouldn't want to distribute anything until we are absolutely sure it
>>> is safe, because WTF!!=C2=A0 11K are already dead in NYC alone and 23mi=
llion
>>> are on indefinite lockdown!
>>>
>>> Take your time boys.=C2=A0 Make sure you get it right..
>>>
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Wall Street Journal today:
>>>
>>> Pfizer could start distributing a possible vaccine on an emergency basi=
s
>>> in the fall if all testing proves successful.
>>> Photo: Sipa USA via AP
>>> By Jared S. Hopkins
>>> April 28, 2020 1:14 pm ET
>>>
>>> Pfizer Inc. PFE -1.10% said Tuesday it could have a coronavirus vaccine
>>> ready for use on an emergency basis in the fall if it proves to work
>>> safely in testing.
>>>
>>> Testing of the vaccine, which has already started in Germany, could
>>> start in the U.S. as early as next week if health regulators sign off,
>>> Pfizer Chief Executive Albert Bourla said in an interview. Results from
>>> the study could come as early as next month, Mr. Bourla said.
>>>
>>> Pfizer would need to do more testing to make sure the vaccine works
>>> safely. If all testing proves successful, Pfizer could start
>>> distributing the vaccine on an emergency basis in the fall and receive
>>> approval for widespread distribution by year=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=
=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s end, Mr. Bourla
> said.
>>>
>>> =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=85=E2=80=9CThis is a crisis right =
now, and a solution is desperately
> needed by
>>> all,=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=EF=BF=BD Mr. Bourla said.
>>> --
>>> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
>>> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
>>> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>>> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>>> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>>>
>>> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development
> in Free Software
>>> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>>>
>>> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
>>> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>=20
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in
> Free Software
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>=20
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013


--=20
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002

http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www.brooklyn-living.com

Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013

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they are using prophylatic hep=
arin drips, wouldn't criteria for steptokinase exclude its use once a pt is=
started on Heparin drip? 




-----=
Original Message-----

From: Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com>

To: Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com>; docs-at-mrbrklyn.com; Hangout=
<hangout-at-nylxs.com>

Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 10:58 am

Subject: Re: good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)




On 4/29/20 9:59 AM, Carolinedliny wrote:



> I don't know that everything here is accurate, I talk=
to my colleagues



> in the ICU and they tell me they are putting pts on h=
eparin drips, they



> are using 100% oxygen, and/or high flow o2  in a=
n attempt to prevent



> hypoxia/desat without using mechanical ventilation>


>







I'm not certain that these two things are inconsistant.&nb=
sp; First of all,



Heparin is not a Thrombolytic, so it is nto going to break=
clots down,



but prevents growth of new clots.  That would be cons=
itant with what



Keren is saying.  However, real clot busters, for pul=
monary embolism,



streptokinase and friends, are they being used at all.&nbs=
p; The granularity



is being SEEN on the xrays.







Regardless, why are shut down?  My college at St Barn=
abas has been



begrudging this from the beginning, rightfully so, and he =
is at ground



zero of this virus in the Bronx.











>



> -----Original Message-----









> Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 2:53 am



> Subject: Re: good thing they are rushing (the vaccine=
s)



>



>



> One more thing... the women who some might think uses=
capital letters is



> a Nurse Anesthesiaologist who spent good part of her =
life working with



> Doctors without Boarders...  threating patients =
and populations in Africa.



>



> Karen, meet, Rick.  Rick, meet Karen.



>



> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=
~~~~~~~~~~~~~



> Side note to Liz -



> I've been told today that Pharmacists aren't experts =
on vaccinations so



> our opinion doesn't hold much weight....



>



> Just for reference, I point out the paper that Liz an=
d I wrong on





>



> to continue on this thread...



>



> On to Karen...



>



> On 4/28/20 8:09 PM, Karen Perilman wrote:



>> =C3=83=C2=AF=C3=82=C2=BB=C3=82=C2=BF



>> =C3=83=C2=AF=C3=82=C2=BB=C3=82=C2=BFRuben,



>> It=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=
=9E=C2=A2s been a long time since we spoke,



>



> That is your fault!  I periodically send you ema=
il :)



>



>> And I must tell you, this message you sent came a=
s a surprise,



>



> Call me when you have time 718-715-1771



>



>>



>> First of all, the patients that were first largel=
y infected in Europe,



> Italy and Spain were knee jerk treated with intubatio=
n and ventilation.



>> I say knee jerk, because never before had they se=
en so many people



> with the same symptoms in mass like this.



>>



>> Never mind the Chinese allowed 5 million INFECTED=
people to leave



> China up to Jan 20th and go to work in Italy and Spai=
n, the fashion center.



>> How do i know, because my daughter is the head se=
nior designer for



> women in Spain for the company Zara.  They have =
so many Chinese working



> there, and their industry is in the HUB of China.



>>



>> And in October 18-19th the International militari=
es all met in Wuhan



> for the WUhan games for 100 COUNTRIES.  ANd when=
the games were over,



> all those 100 countries became infected..... >


>>



>> Now, go back to where we were....



>> All these people presenting with Shortness of bre=
ath we MISDIAGNOSED



> FROM THE GET GO.



>> WHy do I say this, because maybe you forgot I am =
an anesthetist.



>



>



> I haven't forgotten anything.  Are you in New Yo=
rk now?



>



>> The presentation of SOB was way off the standards=
of evaluation for SOB.



>> The Corona is a virus that spread thru droplets a=
s does EVERY OTHER VIRUS.



>> But we never reacted like this before.



>



> I say this until I am blue in the face.  We have=
NEVER reacted like this



> to even Small Pox!!



>



>



>> Here is why we shouldn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=
=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t have.



>> I spoke with the head oncologist at a NY Cancer h=
ospital....



>> I also spoke with the head neurologist at Northwe=
ll Hospitals and all



> of us said the same thing.



>>



>



> We've been working with St Barbaus and they just said=
the same thing in



> the NY Post today,,



>



>> The SOB from Corona patients was unlike a person =
with pneumonia or ARDS.



>> Patients were talking and even on the phones, and=
showing low Puse OX



> readings.



>> In Italy they didn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=
=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t have the time to asses as they were



> barraged with patients,



>> They ran out of ventilators when that was ACTUALL=
Y what was killing



> people.



>> Sick lungs under PEEP and ventilation only causes=
more problems and



> patients vaso constrict and organs shut down,  a=
nd FAST, especially in



> the elderly.



>



> This I didn't know and I don't understand.  The =
ICU is packed in the



> Bronx with people on vents undergoing ID evaluation.&=
nbsp; In the end, there



> is not much I can do for them other than take the sta=
tes and track



> infection.  Infection contol on the floors is th=
e biggest problem we have.



>



>>



>> But in the US, NO ONE took the time to look at th=
e reason people were



> SOB and they ASSUMED it was a viral infection, Corona=
.....



>>



>> BIG MISTAKE!



>> Now, looking back, we know now, that after autops=
ies, the patients



> lungs and bodies were filled with CLOTS!!! 



>



> Bilateral Granularity on the Xrays.  We don't ev=
en need testing for



> this.  It is a presumptive diagnosis already.>


>



> The patients were actually acting like someone with p=
ulmonary embolism.



> The clots killed people with heart attacks and Stroke=
s!!!!



>>



>> So where did this information take the doctors wh=
o were in the know.



>> In NY and the UK, they started realizing that the=
patients who were on



> blood thinners and anti inflammatories had NO clots a=
nd they were mildly



> sick and got better.



>



>> Those patients, in particular were Cancer patient=
s who as you know are



> compromised immunologically.



>>



>



> I have data clearly showing me that pts on Chemo and =
with advanced



> cancer don't survive this.  They won't even vent=
olate those patients at



> this point.  So please explain this further.



>



> BTW - the virus attacks clotting factors, and causes =
prolong PT times,



> but frankly, that is common with cytosine storms, so =
I am not convinced



> of that data.



>



>> They tested the patients clotting times and saw t=
he proof in the blood.



>> Waiting for a vaccine to kill a virus that will b=
e obsolete in a year



> is ridiculous when we know how to treat the patients =
NOW.



>>



>> If someone presents to the ER with SOB, they shou=
ld have been assessed



> to rule out for  clots.



>>



>> A retro study, and a study that moves forward sho=
uld be done immediately,



>> BUT because the cure for the clots is CHEAP, no o=
ne is going to



> recommend ASPIRIN or Azithromycin because they won=C3=
=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t be able to



> make MONEY.



>>



>



> This has been a recurring problem.  It is almost=
like they are purposely



> misusing Hydroxychloroquin, which can only work in th=
e early phase of



> the disease, in order to make way for other thearpies=
, and those



> therapies, Remdesivir, Kaletra, Nitazoxanide, Tociliz=
umab, etc.  All of



> them cost over $2K per treatment.  My friend May=
a, who is a PharmD, she



> was big on this point. They are not acting in a way t=
hat is consistant



> with a disease that shuts down civilization.  Th=
ey are telling us we are



> in moral danger and the numbers don't bare it out and=
they aren't acting



> like it is that serious.



>



>> The mayor NY and the governor are 100% assholes.<=
br>


>> We have NEVER quarantined in the history of illne=
ss HEALTHY PEOPLE!!



>> Sick people yes, and they should be isolated at h=
ome.



>



> It is unbelievable.  Never in my lifetime could =
I have ever imagined this.



>



>



>> If you go to any NY hospital now in the city,&nbs=
p; if you show ANY signs



> of SOB you are intubated and you DIE!!!!  They d=
o not resuscitate anyone



> suspected of corona!!



>> That=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=
=9E=C2=A2s insane..... If the reason people are dying are the



> clots, they NO ONE should be intubated and they shoul=
d emergently be



> give blood thinners.



>>



>> The elderly are being treated like disposable spo=
ilers of this virus. 



> They die alone and it=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=
=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s criminal.



>>



>



> How do you then prevent an anurism..



>



>



>> I will not fall for the BS of waiting for a vacci=
ne, because patients



> being treated right now with the new paradigm are sur=
viving and getting



> better quicker.



>>



>> No patient population compares to the cancer pati=
ents who were found



> to be Safe from the extreme sickness of Corona becaus=
e so many of their



> patients were on blood thinners. 



>> The evidence is there.



>> Even the Young patients that died, died from Stro=
kes.!!!



>> No one is talking about the patients that contrac=
ted corona who were



> described as =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=85=
=E2=80=9Chealthy=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=C2=9D who SMOKE; it=
is a joke.  Smokers are



> NOT healthy, not if they smoke anything,  pot, v=
aping or cigarettes.



>> I see people on the streets with masks and gloves=
SMOKING and



> it=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=
=A2s a joke.



>> THey are blowing Corona and adding to the contami=
nating of all of us.



>> I see people wearing masks and gloves throwing th=
em in the streets,



> not using them properly, and I tell them, will all th=
is costuming, they



> would never be allowed in the ICU to work because the=
y have no idea how



> to used sterile masks and gloves.



>>



>> If you want to be mad, get mad with the medical s=
ystem in NY fueled by



> political idiots that want to see the economy fail, s=
o they can blame



> politics.



>> Even Fauci, that =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=
=AC=C3=85=E2=80=9CStatistician=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=C2=9D=
is out of the loop.  He



> hasn=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=
=C2=A2t practiced medicine in 20 yrs!!  And he is nothing but an



> accountant for the numbers that other people give him=
.



>>



>> THis is BS,  I don=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=
=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2t give a shit about politics...



>> I do care that we are being used for this politic=
al experiment.



>



>



> 100%



>



>



>> The economy should have NEVER been shut down.



>



>



> A strong economy is our leading weapon to fight the d=
isease.



>



>



>> It=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=
=9E=C2=A2s laughable that all the markets and stores that are open



> are crowded and no one has stopped shopping.



>>



>> Maybe they should try putting the voter machines =
in Target or Walmart.....



>> Then we could vote out these morons that crashed =
our economy when the



> answer to save people was right under our noses.



>>



>>



>>



>>



>> Sent from my iPad



>>



>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Ruben Safir <=
>ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com





>>>



>>> =C3=83=C2=AF=C3=82=C2=BB=C3=82=C2=BF



>>> We wouldn't want to distribute anything until=
we are absolutely sure it



>>> is safe, because WTF!!  11K are already =
dead in NYC alone and 23million



>>> are on indefinite lockdown!



>>>



>>> Take your time boys.  Make sure you get =
it right..



>>>



>>>



>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



>>> Wall Street Journal today:



>>>



>>> Pfizer could start distributing a possible va=
ccine on an emergency basis



>>> in the fall if all testing proves successful.=




>>> Photo: Sipa USA via AP



>>> By Jared S. Hopkins



>>> April 28, 2020 1:14 pm ET



>>>



>>> Pfizer Inc. PFE -1.10% said Tuesday it could =
have a coronavirus vaccine



>>> ready for use on an emergency basis in the fa=
ll if it proves to work



>>> safely in testing.



>>>



>>> Testing of the vaccine, which has already sta=
rted in Germany, could



>>> start in the U.S. as early as next week if he=
alth regulators sign off,



>>> Pfizer Chief Executive Albert Bourla said in =
an interview. Results from



>>> the study could come as early as next month, =
Mr. Bourla said.



>>>



>>> Pfizer would need to do more testing to make =
sure the vaccine works



>>> safely. If all testing proves successful, Pfi=
zer could start



>>> distributing the vaccine on an emergency basi=
s in the fall and receive



>>> approval for widespread distribution by year=
=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=E2=80=9E=C2=A2s end, Mr. Bourla



> said.



>>>



>>> =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=85=E2=80=
=9CThis is a crisis right now, and a solution is desperately



> needed by



>>> all,=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=E2=80=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=
=C2=9D Mr. Bourla said.



>>> --



>>> So many immigrant groups have swept through o=
ur town



>>> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mytholo=
gical



>>> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Saf=
ir 1998





>>> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI S=
afir 2002



>>>





> in Free Software





>>>



>>> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and exte=
rmination camps,



>>> but incompatible with living as a free human =
being. -RI Safir 2013



>



>



> --



> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town<=
br>


> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological>


> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998<=
br>




> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 200=
2



>





> Free Software





>



> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and exterminatio=
n camps,



> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -=
RI Safir 2013











--



So many immigrant groups have swept through our town



that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological



proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998





DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002







http:/=
/www.nylxs.com
- Leadership Development in Free Software









Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination cam=
ps,



but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Sa=
fir 2013





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  1. 2020-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] yet another instances where everyone yelled at me
  2. 2020-04-01 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software Supporter Issue 144, April 2020
  3. 2020-04-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Mariott Data Breach
  4. 2020-04-02 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free online resources to explore with your
  5. 2020-04-02 webman <webmanlungu-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health / Orthanc Integration
  6. 2020-04-02 From: "Dr. Axel Braun" <axel.braun-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health / Orthanc Integration
  7. 2020-04-01 Edgar Hagenbichler <edgar.hagenbichler-at-hagenbichler.at> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Using GNU Health for COVID-19
  8. 2020-04-02 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <learn-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online Learning with Seminars on Science
  9. 2020-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] View of NYC from the Bronx to Brooklyn today
  10. 2020-04-02 From: "Hillel International" <info-at-community.hillel.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chag Pesach Sameach from Hillel International
  11. 2020-04-02 Charlie Gonzalez <itcharlie-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New York Perl Mongers Virtual Tech April Meetup
  12. 2020-04-02 Matthew Wheaton <mwheat5487-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New York Perl Mongers Virtual Tech April
  13. 2020-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] how is things in birdland
  14. 2020-04-03 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Using GNU Health for COVID-19
  15. 2020-04-03 Efstathios Iosifidis <iefstathios-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Using GNU Health for COVID-19
  16. 2020-04-03 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Using GNU Health for COVID-19
  17. 2020-04-03 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <publicprograms-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Today at 1:30 pm Tour the Universe Live
  18. 2020-04-04 Ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Re: QEMU participation to Google Season of
  19. 2020-04-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] I want OUT of this prison
  20. 2020-04-05 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Israel.pm] Perl and other events On-line
  21. 2020-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Trust the CDC
  22. 2020-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Calculating the economic cost of COVID-19: The
  23. 2020-04-05 Rabbi Dan Rosenstein <drosenstein-at-hebronfund.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Send a Prayer,
  24. 2020-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] OK - so here we go
  25. 2020-04-06 Gary Work22 Schultz <gary+email+bnwks-de42887937-at-talent.icims.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Morristtown, NJ asic verification engineer
  26. 2020-04-06 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #454 - Future of blogs.perl.org?
  27. 2020-04-05 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] "lsblk -f" now showing uuids for
  28. 2020-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Covid-19 research webnir
  29. 2020-04-06 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #454 - Future of blogs.perl.org?
  30. 2020-04-06 Orthodox Union <alerts-at-ounetwork.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Follow-up Joint Statement to the Orthodox
  31. 2020-04-06 From: "Imiolo, Amber" <amber.imiolo-at-careerstaff.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hiring : Per Diem Pharmacists - Manhattan,
  32. 2020-04-06 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Chromium is broken
  33. 2020-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] this lockout is ENDLESS
  34. 2020-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Airlines death - the end of common carrier
  35. 2020-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] who is paying for all this - MTA bonds
  36. 2020-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the $5 subway fare is coming..
  37. 2020-04-07 From: "Greg Farough, DBD" <info-at-defectivebydesign.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Staying "safe" while you stream: DBD's tips on
  38. 2020-04-08 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  39. 2020-04-08 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  40. 2020-04-07 Bruno =?utf-8?Q?F=C3=A9lix?= Rezende Ribeiro <oitofelix-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Endorsing the GNU social contract
  41. 2020-04-07 Bruno =?utf-8?Q?F=C3=A9lix?= Rezende Ribeiro <oitofelix-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Feedback on the GNU Social contract and new
  42. 2020-04-11 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Project MNTm
  43. 2020-04-11 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Not relevant here - Re: Feedback on the GNU
  44. 2020-04-11 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Endorsing the GNU social contract
  45. 2020-04-11 Ben Creisler <bcreisler-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [dinosaur] Jon Tennant (1988-2020) + dinosaur
  46. 2020-04-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New Yoawk is dead
  47. 2020-04-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [dinosaur] Jon Tennant (1988-2020) + dinosaur
  48. 2020-04-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jon Tennant
  49. 2020-04-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [dinosaur] Jon Tennant (1988-2020) + dinosaur
  50. 2020-04-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [dinosaur] Jon Tennant (1988-2020) + dinosaur
  51. 2020-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Influenza deaths being reported as WUHAN now :(
  52. 2020-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Where the Beatles predict all possible futures...
  53. 2020-04-12 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Using GNU Health for COVID-19
  54. 2020-04-12 Efstathios Iosifidis <iefstathios-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Using GNU Health for COVID-19
  55. 2020-04-12 abdrahman elkafil <elkafil-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Using GNU Health for COVID-19
  56. 2020-04-12 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Using GNU Health for COVID-19
  57. 2020-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] My friend Jon Tennant is gone
  58. 2020-04-12 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  59. 2020-04-13 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #455 - Open Source lives online
  60. 2020-04-12 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] dhcpcd (daemon) +
  61. 2020-04-12 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  62. 2020-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] food shortages starting now... thanks for saving
  63. 2020-04-13 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #455 - Open Source lives online
  64. 2020-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] china - on frontline
  65. 2020-04-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] china - on frontline
  66. 2020-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] time to boycott China
  67. 2020-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] time to boycott China
  68. 2020-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This kind of women should be eliminated from
  69. 2020-04-14 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] time to boycott China
  70. 2020-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] time to boycott China
  71. 2020-04-13 Ivan Vucica <ivan-at-vucica.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ANN: GNUstep GUI Backend 0.28.0
  72. 2020-04-13 Ivan Vucica <ivan-at-vucica.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ANN: GNUstep GUI Library 0.28.0
  73. 2020-04-13 Ivan Vucica <ivan-at-vucica.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ANN: GNUstep Base Library 1.27.0
  74. 2020-04-13 Ivan Vucica <ivan-at-vucica.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ANN: GNUstep Makefile Package 2.8.0
  75. 2020-04-13 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] dhcpcd (daemon) +
  76. 2020-04-13 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  77. 2020-04-13 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  78. 2020-04-14 Ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Drug supplies
  79. 2020-04-14 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New York Perl Mongers Virtual Tech April
  80. 2020-04-14 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  81. 2020-04-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Off the Hook: Wuhan(covid-19) virus and your
  82. 2020-04-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Off the Hook: Wuhan(covid-19) virus and your
  83. 2020-04-15 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New York Perl Mongers Virtual Tech April
  84. 2020-04-15 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  85. 2020-04-15 facebook <facebook-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Off the Hook: Wuhan(covid-19) virus and your
  86. 2020-04-16 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Off the Hook: Wuhan(covid-19) virus and your
  87. 2020-04-16 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Off the Hook: Wuhan(covid-19) virus and your
  88. 2020-04-16 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Registration is Open for Summer Session 1
  89. 2020-04-16 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Fwd: [Outreachy] Intern selections due
  90. 2020-04-17 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Conference in the Cloud Newsletter
  91. 2020-04-17 From: "Lulu.com" <lulu-at-emails.lulu.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?b?4pqg77iPIEluZm9ybWF0aW9uIFJlZ2FyZGlu?=
  92. 2020-04-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the end of this lockup
  93. 2020-04-17 From: "Prov Hogan, LMT" <provspa329-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the end of this lockup
  94. 2020-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the end of this lockup
  95. 2020-04-17 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the end of this lockup
  96. 2020-04-17 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the end of this lockup
  97. 2020-04-17 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Covid pics - sign of the times
  98. 2020-04-17 From: "MTA New York City Transit" <response-at-mta.info> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Update from Sarah Feinberg,
  99. 2020-04-18 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the end of this lockup
  100. 2020-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] covid modeling
  101. 2020-04-18 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  102. 2020-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] have you heard about the new normal?
  103. 2020-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] virus lessons
  104. 2020-04-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] civil liberties in the time of wuhan-19
  105. 2020-04-20 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #456 - Conference in the Cloud
  106. 2020-04-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Restricting civil liberties amid the COVID-19
  107. 2020-04-20 NCPA eCommunications <ncpa.ecommunications-at-ncpanet.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Survey: Drug shortage affecting most pharmacies |
  108. 2020-04-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] sars-cov2 info
  109. 2020-04-20 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Message to the LIU Community
  110. 2020-04-21 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Message to the LIU Community | |
  111. 2020-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Message to the LIU Community | |
  112. 2020-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Message to the LIU Community | |
  113. 2020-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Escape from NY
  114. 2020-04-21 From: "Dana Morgenstein, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Summer internships at the FSF! Apply by May 10
  115. 2020-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Wuhan (COVID-19) Virus vaccination - no rush
  116. 2020-04-21 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Message to the LIU Community
  117. 2020-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Salvation es heyr
  118. 2020-04-22 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  119. 2020-04-21 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Join Us for EarthFest 2020 Online!
  120. 2020-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Message to the LIU Community
  121. 2020-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] unrepairable destruction to our culture
  122. 2020-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Civil Rights in the world of WUHAN - EFF
  123. 2020-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Spains children
  124. 2020-04-21 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  125. 2020-04-21 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  126. 2020-04-22 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  127. 2020-04-22 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] tty number
  128. 2020-04-23 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <learn-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Register for an Online Science Course for
  129. 2020-04-21 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  130. 2020-04-21 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  131. 2020-04-22 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  132. 2020-04-22 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] tty number
  133. 2020-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] fair use rules changes
  134. 2020-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] SuperHero's one and all
  135. 2020-04-23 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] LibrePlanet 2020 videos now available online
  136. 2020-04-25 Ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Covid recoveries and cases
  137. 2020-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Epidemic response by Government and Economy -
  138. 2020-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Using Emergency Powers to make a socialist agenda
  139. 2020-04-26 From: "Jon Tennant" <jon.tennant.2-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Absent until further notice Re: Epidemic response
  140. 2020-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the death of america is here,
  141. 2020-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] and for some good news (for the homeless - a new
  142. 2020-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software and Open Scholarship - together
  143. 2020-04-22 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] tty number
  144. 2020-04-25 Christos Nouskas via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] tty number
  145. 2020-04-27 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #457 - Perl on LinkedIn
  146. 2020-04-27 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software and Open Scholarship - together
  147. 2020-04-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software and Open Scholarship - together
  148. 2020-04-27 Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Nonfree JS (was: Free Software and Open
  149. 2020-04-27 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Using Emergency Powers to make a socialist
  150. 2020-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Unemployment etc during Covid
  151. 2020-04-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Nonfree JS
  152. 2020-04-27 facebook <facebook-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Using Emergency Powers to make a socialist
  153. 2020-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing
  154. 2020-04-28 Karen Perilman <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing
  155. 2020-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Homelessness on the subway
  156. 2020-04-28 Ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: [dinosaur] Online Live Course Introduction
  157. 2020-04-28 Ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: [dinosaur] Online Live Course Introduction
  158. 2020-04-28 Rani Linarelli <ranirelli-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing
  159. 2020-04-28 Rani Linarelli <ranirelli-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing
  160. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This virus is not just people - now dogs
  161. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Off the Hook: Wuhan(covid-19) virus and your
  162. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  163. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Recommended=3A_The_Data_Scien?=
  164. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  165. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  166. 2020-04-29 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  167. 2020-04-29 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  168. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  169. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  170. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  171. 2020-04-29 Lynn Zacharowicz <lcbraunstein-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  172. 2020-04-29 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  173. 2020-04-28 From: "Pat Schloss" <pdschloss-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [mothur] Upcoming virtual R workshop
  174. 2020-04-29 Lynn Zacharowicz <lcbraunstein-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  175. 2020-04-29 George Moskowitz MD <yehudazev-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  176. 2020-04-29 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  177. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  178. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  179. 2020-04-29 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  180. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  181. 2020-04-29 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dr. Judy A. Mikovits PhD - interview exposing
  182. 2020-04-29 Karen Perilman <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  183. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  184. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  185. 2020-04-29 shulie <shulie_release-at-optimum.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  186. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  187. 2020-04-29 shulie <shulie_release-at-optimum.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  188. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  189. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the rush for a vaccinine... etc etc
  190. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  191. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] What kills the likes of Jon Tenent and RMS
  192. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] C++ god - on video
  193. 2020-04-29 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  194. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Give you kids up to Good or be reported to the
  195. 2020-04-29 Karen Perilman <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Give you kids up to Good or be reported to
  196. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] mind your pronounes...
  197. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  198. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  199. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  200. 2020-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Give you kids up to Good or be reported to
  201. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?COVID_=E2=80=93_19=3A_A_Critical_Ont?=
  202. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] covid-19 lockdown pushback
  203. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ayaan Hirsi Ali and a new generation
  204. 2020-04-30 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  205. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] OK - time to change the phone system
  206. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Phone systems
  207. 2020-04-30 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <learn-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Register for a Summer Session Today
  208. 2020-04-30 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Give you kids up to Good or be reported to
  209. 2020-04-30 ruth02-at-web.de Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Phone systems
  210. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Phone systems
  211. 2020-04-30 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  212. 2020-04-30 From: "Speaker Corey Johnson" <SpeakerJohnson-at-council.nyc.gov> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?COVID-19=3A_Weekly_Update_=26_Resour?=
  213. 2020-04-30 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  214. 2020-04-30 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ayaan Hirsi Ali and a new generation
  215. 2020-04-30 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Virtual LibrePlanet raffle: Encourage others to
  216. 2020-04-30 Orthodox Union <alerts-at-ounetwork.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] OU Today: Donate Plasma, OU-JLIC In the Spotlight
  217. 2020-04-30 ruth02-at-web.de Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Das is the Dr.'s decision - procure the
  218. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  219. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  220. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Give you kids up to Good or be reported to
  221. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] covid-19 lockdown pushback
  222. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] covid-19 lockdown pushback
  223. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why the government drags vaccination development
  224. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 4% mortality rate according to the City
  225. 2020-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] kids won't sit still..
  226. 2020-04-30 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
  227. 2020-04-30 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  228. 2020-04-30 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Look at thecrazy lock them up speach
  229. 2020-04-06 Peter Maydell <peter.maydell-at-linaro.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] QEMU participation to Google Season of Docs
  230. 2020-04-06 Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini-at-redhat.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] QEMU participation to Google Season of Docs

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