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| DATE | 2002-07-15 |
| FROM | Seth Johnson
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] DC 7/17: Slogans for Demo Production
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Jul 15 03:55:05 2002 Received: from mail.rm-cpa.com (mail.rm-cpa.com [216.112.229.114]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id g6F7t5kn004622 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:55:05 -0400 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (dsl254-112-136.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.112.136]) by mail.rm-cpa.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g6F7bmT29639; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:37:48 -0400 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (dsl254-112-136.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.112.136]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id g6F7njkn004495 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:49:45 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g6F7njOd004494 for hangout-desteny; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:49:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id g6F7nikn004483 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:49:44 -0400 Received: from dialup-63.210.214.96.dial1.newyork1.level3.net ([63.210.214.96] helo=realmeasures.dyndns.org) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17U0cS-0005Zd-00 for hangout-at-nylxs.com; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:50:11 -0700 Received: from RealMeasures.dyndns.org by realmeasures.dyndns.org with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.7.5.R) for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:44:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3D327D56.BFE79CB6-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:44:22 -0400 From: Seth Johnson Organization: Real Measures X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC_7-17-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org, fairuse-at-mrbrklyn.com, hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: [hangout] DC 7/17: Slogans for Demo Production Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Return-Path: seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Seth Johnson List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Content-Length: 2060 Lines: 66 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1752
We Are The Stakeholders DRM is Theft
I normally don't take much truck in some of what the "DRM is theft" trope carries as implications. If we *reduce* our rights in information to property rights, or let it appear that this is what we are settling for, that will very easily and quite predictably be used against the public's interests. If we are profoundly successful, this will be the greatest danger in the runoff. Still, I believe that Ruben and Jay are onto something here, while the danger remains.
NOTE WELL THAT:
It works *extremely* well in terms of bluntly reversing one of the other side's key syllogisms. It will penetrate the media PROFOUNDLY if it gets print. That's a big payoff.
And then, the set of two is a composition. You can't add more to them and get the impact.
And finally, the reason that Ruben stresses: It assures us that the media picks up our message and we therefore CONTROL THE FACT THAT the impact will be great.
The fact is, from my standpoint, we're just skating very close to the edge of the 1st Amendment vs Fourth Amendment split in information freedom politics. As we approach it, we approach a precipice -- but let us simply know that we are doing so.
Let's begin production.
Let's use these two slogans.
And let's leave it at that.
Seth
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