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Compulsory Windows: for Macs, and people without PCs?
By John Lettice
Posted: 05/07/2002 at 08:08 EST

Microsoft has come up with another novel way to make its software compulsory - an annual subscription licensing system for schools where you have to pay for all of the computers you're using, even if you don't want them to run the Microsoft software you're licensing. This includes Macs, and although the Ts & Cs of the agreement don't make it entirely clear what you're supposed to do with the Windows upgrades you end up buying for these machines, we bet putting them on E-bay isn't a recommended option.

The precise implementation of the agreement seems to vary depending on what part of the world you're in, but the inclusion of Macs in the headcount, and the insistence that you have to count all PCs rather than just a specific number you want to license, is probably general. In the US "Microsoft Schools Agreement 3.0," for example, "100 per cent of all Pentiums, Power Macs, iMacs or better" are specified, whereas the FAQ document for the UK Microsoft School Agreement says "You need to count 100% of all Pentiums, Power Macs and iMacs."

The requirement is to some extent explicable in that schools operating both Intel and Apple machines are likely to want to standardise on applications, so it makes sense for them to tally up all of the machines in order to buy, say, Microsoft Office licences. But that presupposes that they're going to want to be able to do absolutely the same thing with every machine they own, and therefore license absolutely the same software for them, which is obviously not going to be true for everybody. Microsoft explains the requirement in near-religious terms: "School Agreement requires an institution-wide commitment."

The nature of the oppression seems not be be precisely the same, depending on which side of the pond you're on. In the UK you just count up the notal number of eligible (i.e. compulsory, according to the redefinition of the word) machines, pay your dues then you get the following:

"Microsoft Office Standard and Professional Editions (for Windows and Macintosh)
Works Standard
Windows Upgrade
Core Client Access Licence
Encarta Reference Suite and Encarta Online
Visual Studio Professional
Microsoft Press Office Starts Here Step by Step Interactive"

Which is how you get your Windows upgrade for the Mac. In School Agreement 3.0, you take your number of eligible PCs (inc Macs, of course), then you select at least one product which you license for all eligible PCs. One of these packages is presumably the most popular, as it's the Desktop Package, which "Includes Office, Core CAL & Windows Upgrades," and offers discounts beyond what you'd get if you bought the components individually. So that's how you wind up buying Windows upgrades for Macs in the States.

And if you're kidding yourself it's impossible to top getting people to pay for software they don't want to run on Intel boxes, and for software they can't run on Apple boxes, check out the Microsoft UK Campus Agreement. This has you paying for software for people who don't even have computers.

According to the Campus Agreement FAQ, this is how it works. First you count up your total number of FTEs (Full Time Equivalents). An FTE is defined as all faculty and staff members "employed over 200 hours per annum" but this thoughtfully excludes "manual, ancillary, casual, maintenance, groundskeepers, cafeteria, and mailroom" staff, if you want to exclude them, that is, you can get a Windows upgrade for the canteen lady if you like. And yes, we know 200 hours per annum tallies up as five weeks work a year for normal people and ten for university lecturers, but that nevertheless is what it says.

The objectives of the campus agreement, according to Microsoft, are to "count people, not computers... to run the most current software versions [and to make] significant savings on software and licensing and a simple annual payment." The agreement can also be extended to cover students, so institutions signing up will inevitably end up paying for software licences for people who don't want or need to run the software, or who don't want or have computers.

In the interests of balance we should point out that the Campus Agreement and School Agreement FAQs both make clear that Open Licence and Select are still available, so the new subscription model isn't entirely compulsory, although we'd expect significant financial carrots and sticks to be associated with their introduction.

In the interests of cheap humour we're also going to point out that in the first par of the School Agreement 3.0 calculator page it currently says: "For exact pricing, contact an Authorized Educaiton Reseller (AER)." Educaiton? We've heard of it...

Finally, historians who've noted a certain similarity between the initiatives outlined above and that old 'per processor' licensing stuff, where OEMs paid Microsoft a fee for each machine they sold whether or not they shipped with Microsoft products on board, might care to remind themselves about this outstanding victory by the antitrust authorities. Of course that one only covered Intel boxes, not Macs and not people, so we've clearly come a long way in the intervening years. ®

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  1. 2002-05-01 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  2. 2002-05-01 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  3. 2002-05-01 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [wwwac] Javascript [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  4. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA Threat to free software developer
  5. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA Threat to free software developer
  6. 2002-05-01 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Flyers
  7. 2002-05-01 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Flyers
  8. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [wwwac] Javascript [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  9. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [wwwac] Javascript [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  10. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] 'Melissa' Virus Maker Gets 20 Months [kika-at-ottostudio.com]
  11. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] 'Melissa' Virus Maker Gets 20 Months [kika-at-ottostudio.com]
  12. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Class Schedule
  13. 2002-05-01 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] radio
  14. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] differences between platforms
  15. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY demo confirmed
  16. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] education committee
  17. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  18. 2002-05-02 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  19. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  20. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  21. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  22. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  23. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002
  24. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Fw: Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002
  25. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  26. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  27. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  28. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002
  29. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002
  30. 2002-05-02 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002 [jwb235-at-nyu.edu]
  31. 2002-05-02 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002 [jwb235-at-nyu.edu]
  32. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002 [jwb235-at-nyu.edu]
  33. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] "Private" OpenOffice 1.0 mirror for NYLUGers (and everybody else)
  34. 2002-05-02 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY demo confirmed
  35. 2002-05-02 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo flyer
  36. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] David Sugar Audio File online
  37. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] David Sugar Audio File online
  38. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] education committee
  39. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Fw: Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002
  40. 2002-05-02 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  41. 2002-05-02 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  42. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Semiconductor chip with synaptically connected snail neurons
  43. 2002-05-02 jonathan jacobs <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] slide show
  44. 2002-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Conference Room
  45. 2002-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Conference Room
  46. 2002-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest
  47. 2002-05-03 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] installfest
  48. 2002-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest
  49. 2002-05-03 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  50. 2002-05-03 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  51. 2002-05-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] installfest
  52. 2002-05-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] installfest
  53. 2002-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Just Rewards - The NYLXS Team
  54. 2002-05-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Exchange Linux Replacement Whitepaper
  55. 2002-05-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Exchange Linux Replacement Whitepaper
  56. 2002-05-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Notes On Sept 11, 2001
  57. 2002-05-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Suse 7.3
  58. 2002-05-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Suse 7.3
  59. 2002-05-03 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Re: Class Room Space for NYLXS]
  60. 2002-05-03 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Re: Class Room Space for NYLXS]
  61. 2002-05-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes
  62. 2002-05-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes
  63. 2002-05-04 Alan Wiess <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Class Scedule
  64. 2002-05-04 Alan Wiess <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Class Scedule
  65. 2002-05-04 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] classes
  66. 2002-05-04 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] classes
  67. 2002-05-04 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Class Scedule
  68. 2002-05-04 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Class Scedule
  69. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] *ASTOUNDING* Statement by Peruvian Congressman on Free
  70. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Classes
  71. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Classes
  72. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: RE: Space in Tribeca [gil-at-ecommercepartners.net]
  73. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: RE: Space in Tribeca [gil-at-ecommercepartners.net]
  74. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Happy Birthday NY Fairuse
  75. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Happy Birthday NY Fairuse
  76. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Meeting Tomorrow
  77. 2002-05-06 hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: Your Linux PR newsletter for May 6, 2002
  78. 2002-05-06 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] CUNY
  79. 2002-05-06 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] CUNY
  80. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] evolution
  81. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: [K12OSN] linux class
  82. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: [K12OSN] linux class
  83. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] monday meeting
  84. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] monday meeting
  85. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: RE: [nylug-talk] CUNY Small Business GNU/Linux Demo]
  86. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: RE: [nylug-talk] CUNY Small Business GNU/Linux Demo]
  87. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Borogh Hall
  88. 2002-05-06 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] CUNY
  89. 2002-05-06 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] CUNY
  90. 2002-05-06 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Small Business GNU/Linux Demo
  91. 2002-05-06 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Small Business GNU/Linux Demo
  92. 2002-05-06 jonathan jacobs <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] evolution
  93. 2002-05-06 jonathan jacobs <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] evolution
  94. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] evolution
  95. 2002-05-06 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Fw: [K12OSN] linux class
  96. 2002-05-06 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Fw: [K12OSN] linux class
  97. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfeast for Linux 1 class
  98. 2002-05-06 jonathan jacobs <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] monday meeting
  99. 2002-05-06 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] php license
  100. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PR Tool
  101. 2002-05-07 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] *ASTOUNDING* Statement by Peruvian Congressman on Free
  102. 2002-05-07 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] *ASTOUNDING* Statement by Peruvian Congressman on Free
  103. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 110 Wall space
  104. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 110 Wall space
  105. 2002-05-07 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] 110 Wall space
  106. 2002-05-07 Daniel Stringfield <dstringfield-at-arsenaldigital.com> RE: [hangout] Attention Education Committee
  107. 2002-05-07 Daniel Stringfield <dstringfield-at-arsenaldigital.com> RE: [hangout] Attention Education Committee
  108. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Attention Education Committee
  109. 2002-05-07 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Compulsory Windows: for Macs, and people without PCs?
  110. 2002-05-07 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Compulsory Windows: for Macs, and people without PCs?
  111. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Install Feast in the East Village
  112. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Install Feast in the East Village
  113. 2002-05-07 Eric R <ericr-at-yankthechain.com> Re: [hangout] Install Feast in the East Village
  114. 2002-05-07 Eric R <ericr-at-yankthechain.com> Re: [hangout] Install Feast in the East Village
  115. 2002-05-07 From: "David Sugar" <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] php license
  116. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] php license
  117. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] php license
  118. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] php license
  119. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] php license
  120. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] php license
  121. 2002-05-07 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] php license
  122. 2002-05-07 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] php license
  123. 2002-05-07 From: "Brendan W. McAdms" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Re: [hangout] php license
  124. 2002-05-07 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Re: [hangout] php license
  125. 2002-05-07 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Problem with mouse and gui
  126. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Attention Education Committee
  127. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Attention Education Committee
  128. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Fw: Re: Address for submitting community events?
  129. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Install Feast in the East Village
  130. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Mandrake 8.2 first look
  131. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] PR Committee
  132. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] PR committee
  133. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] PR committee
  134. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Problem with mouse and gui
  135. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Space in Woodside, Queens
  136. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] StarOffice to eat MS share (probably)
  137. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout]
  138. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Content Control and Boucher
  139. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Content Control and Boucher
  140. 2002-05-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] edited commentary
  141. 2002-05-08 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] Problem with mouse and gui
  142. 2002-05-08 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] Problem with mouse and gui
  143. 2002-05-08 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout]
  144. 2002-05-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] audio equipment for radio show
  145. 2002-05-08 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Class Calendar
  146. 2002-05-08 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Class Calendar
  147. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Content Control and Boucher
  148. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Content Control and Boucher
  149. 2002-05-08 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] edited commentary
  150. 2002-05-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Flyers
  151. 2002-05-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Flyers
  152. 2002-05-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: edited comentary
  153. 2002-05-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: edited commentary
  154. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: proofed commentary
  155. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: proofed commentary
  156. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Documents and Audiences
  157. 2002-05-09 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] Documents and Audiences
  158. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Documents and Audiences
  159. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: Membership committee
  160. 2002-05-09 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Fw: Re: Address for submitting community events?
  161. 2002-05-09 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Fw: Re: Address for submitting community events?
  162. 2002-05-09 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Fw: Re: Address for submitting community events?
  163. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYC -- Perl 1/Perl 2 class --> May 13th
  164. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYC -- Perl 1/Perl 2 class --> May 13th
  165. 2002-05-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYC -- Perl 1/Perl 2 class --> May 13th
  166. 2002-05-09 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Documents and Audiences
  167. 2002-05-09 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Membership committee
  168. 2002-05-09 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] FW: [Problhangout] em with mouse and gui
  169. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] OT: Fw: Brooklyn Jr. High School needs volunteer graphic design help [soei-at-sovisual.com]
  170. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] OT: Fw: Brooklyn Jr. High School needs volunteer graphic design help [soei-at-sovisual.com]
  171. 2002-05-09 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Journal Deadline
  172. 2002-05-09 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYC -- Perl 1/Perl 2 class --> May 13th
  173. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org: Fwd: Boucher: Pro- ContentControl]
  174. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org: Fwd: Boucher: Pro- ContentControl]
  175. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org: Fwd: Boucher: Pro- ContentControl]
  176. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Flyer
  177. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Flyer
  178. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] price of linux training
  179. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] price of linux training
  180. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] price of linux training
  181. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Content Control and Boucher (fwd)
  182. 2002-05-10 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Space in Woodside, Queens
  183. 2002-05-10 dustin perun <perun242-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] The worse use of PHP I ever saw...
  184. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Who is the teacher of the GNU/Linux One Class
  185. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Who is the teacher of the GNU/Linux One Class
  186. 2002-05-10 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] classes calendar
  187. 2002-05-10 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Flyer
  188. 2002-05-10 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Flyer
  189. 2002-05-10 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyers: Call for help.
  190. 2002-05-10 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Membership Meeting
  191. 2002-05-10 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] price of linux training
  192. 2002-05-10 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] price of linux training
  193. 2002-05-10 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Sorry forgot to attach
  194. 2002-05-10 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Sorry forgot to attach
  195. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The worse use of PHP I ever saw...
  196. 2002-05-11 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Flyers For Tomorrow
  197. 2002-05-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyers For Tomorrow (fwd)
  198. 2002-05-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyers For Tomorrow (fwd)
  199. 2002-05-11 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Subject: [hangout] Heard of SEUL.ORG?
  200. 2002-05-13 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] CUNY DEMO
  201. 2002-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CLasses and PR
  202. 2002-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CLasses and PR
  203. 2002-05-13 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS announcements
  204. 2002-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl 1 and Perl 2 Class
  205. 2002-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl 1 and Perl 2 Class
  206. 2002-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Linux Education continued
  207. 2002-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Linux Education continued
  208. 2002-05-13 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] scheduled demo
  209. 2002-05-13 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Unix 1 Upcoming Class -> May 15th
  210. 2002-05-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> FW: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  211. 2002-05-14 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Re: [fairuse-discuss] Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Pact Reached to Stop Pirating Of Digital TV Over the Internet (fwd)
  212. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Pact Reached to Stop Pirating Of Digital TV Over the Internet (fwd)
  213. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 110 Wall Street
  214. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 110 Wall Street
  215. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Digital "Rights"
  216. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Digital "Rights"
  217. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  218. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  219. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  220. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  221. 2002-05-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  222. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Pact Reached to Stop Pirating Of Digital TV Over the Internet (fwd)
  223. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Pact Reached to Stop Pirating Of Digital TV Over the Internet (fwd)
  224. 2002-05-14 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Pact Reached to Stop Pirating Of Digital TV Over the Internet (fwd)
  225. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please add my phpGroupware Demo to the list
  226. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please add my phpGroupware Demo to the list
  227. 2002-05-14 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: Sublease Agreement
  228. 2002-05-14 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: Sublease Agreement
  229. 2002-05-14 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] RH 7.3 and Orinoco
  230. 2002-05-14 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Linux Education continued
  231. 2002-05-14 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] scheduled demo
  232. 2002-05-14 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  233. 2002-05-14 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  234. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  235. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  236. 2002-05-14 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] scheduled demo
  237. 2002-05-14 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] scheduled demo
  238. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  239. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  240. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 110 Wall Street
  241. 2002-05-14 Brendan Tween <btween-at-cossettepost.com> Subject: [hangout] Digital "Rights"
  242. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Sublease agreement [Bcpnyc-at-aol.com]
  243. 2002-05-14 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] last night
  244. 2002-05-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Membership Drive
  245. 2002-05-14 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  246. 2002-05-14 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> Subject: [hangout] OT - hardware repair
  247. 2002-05-14 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> Subject: [hangout] OT - hardware repair
  248. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Marco Conti
  249. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Marco Conti
  250. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl 1 Class
  251. 2002-05-14 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] Please add my phpGroupware Demo to the list
  252. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Sublease Agreement
  253. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] RH 7.3 and Orinoco
  254. 2002-05-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlnk.net> Subject: [hangout] Stallman mentions NYLXS at Moglen talk at nyu
  255. 2002-05-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Video
  256. 2002-05-14 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday 15 May 2002 NYLUG: Len Santalucia on Linux in the Marketplace
  257. 2002-05-15 jonathan-at-airbatic.com Re: [hangout] Easy to administer FTP application?
  258. 2002-05-15 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [hangout] Proposed banner for NYLXS
  259. 2002-05-15 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman mentions NYLXS at Moglen talk at nyu
  260. 2002-05-15 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Stallman mentions NYLXS at Moglen talk at nyu
  261. 2002-05-15 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Stallman mentions NYLXS at Moglen talk at nyu
  262. 2002-05-15 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Who is going to NYLUG tonite?
  263. 2002-05-15 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Who is going to NYLUG tonite?
  264. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Class Schedule
  265. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Class Schedule
  266. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: A good vertical [pnichols-at-brave.net]
  267. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: A good vertical [pnichols-at-brave.net]
  268. 2002-05-15 WWWhatsup <joly-at-dti.net> Subject: [hangout] Moglen webcast
  269. 2002-05-15 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Promoting NYLXS
  270. 2002-05-15 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Promoting NYLXS
  271. 2002-05-15 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Proposed banner for NYLXS
  272. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: OFF LIST Re: [nylxs-announce] Happy Birthday NY Fairuse
  273. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Who is going to NYLUG tonite?
  274. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Who is going to NYLUG tonite?
  275. 2002-05-16 From: "David Sugar" <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Call to all CUNY demo participants.
  276. 2002-05-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Call to all CUNY demo participants.
  277. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  278. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  279. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] DEMO
  280. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] DEMO
  281. 2002-05-16 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] Meeting CUNY Demo
  282. 2002-05-16 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] Meeting CUNY Demo
  283. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meeting CUNY Demo
  284. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Moglen webcast
  285. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Moglen webcast
  286. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Moglen webcast
  287. 2002-05-16 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Call to all CUNY demo participants.
  288. 2002-05-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  289. 2002-05-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  290. 2002-05-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] DEMO
  291. 2002-05-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] DEMO
  292. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] Critical May 15th IE security patch [biteme-at-spamcop.net]
  293. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] Critical May 15th IE security patch [biteme-at-spamcop.net]
  294. 2002-05-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Meeting CUNY Demo
  295. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Classrom Space:
  296. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Classrom Space:
  297. 2002-05-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Furniture for Asha Space
  298. 2002-05-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Furniture for Asha Space
  299. 2002-05-17 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Furniture for Asha Space
  300. 2002-05-17 From: "Juan Gonzalez" <juang-at-rm-cpa.com> RE: [hangout] Paging Marco Conti
  301. 2002-05-17 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  302. 2002-05-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: Furniture delivery for NYLXS
  303. 2002-05-17 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Slashdot: Migrating Your Office from Windows to Linux?
  304. 2002-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl 2 Class
  305. 2002-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl 2 Class
  306. 2002-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl 2 Class
  307. 2002-05-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] Perl 2 Class (fwd)
  308. 2002-05-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] Perl 2 Class (fwd)
  309. 2002-05-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] DMCA
  310. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY CUNY CUNY
  311. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY CUNY CUNY
  312. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  313. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  314. 2002-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  315. 2002-05-20 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  316. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  317. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  318. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Letter to Mr. Brown (CUNY demo)
  319. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Letter to Mr. Brown (CUNY demo)
  320. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl Classes
  321. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl Classes
  322. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  323. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  324. 2002-05-20 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] scheduled demo
  325. 2002-05-20 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] scheduled demo
  326. 2002-05-20 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] scheduled demo
  327. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Copyright Bill (fwd)
  328. 2002-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] CUNY CUNY CUNY
  329. 2002-05-20 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  330. 2002-05-20 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  331. 2002-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Final Base Touch CUNY Demo
  332. 2002-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: CUNY CUNY CUNY II [marco4linux-at-earthlink.net]
  333. 2002-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: CUNY CUNY CUNY II [marco4linux-at-earthlink.net]
  334. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Free Software Small Business and Government Demonstration [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  335. 2002-05-20 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Letter to Mr. Brown (CUNY demo)
  336. 2002-05-20 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Letter to Mr. Brown (CUNY demo)
  337. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux 2
  338. 2002-05-20 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Posting CUNY event
  339. 2002-05-20 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Posting CUNY event
  340. 2002-05-20 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday 22 May 2002 Panel on Eldred v. Ashcroft and the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act
  341. 2002-05-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  342. 2002-05-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] What's the address of Killarny Rose?
  343. 2002-05-21 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] questionnaire for cuny demo
  344. 2002-05-21 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Furniture for Asha Space
  345. 2002-05-21 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Furniture for Asha Space
  346. 2002-05-21 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] The meeting at the Rose went well
  347. 2002-05-21 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] What's the address of Killarny Rose?
  348. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY details for Friday
  349. 2002-05-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] CUNY details for Friday
  350. 2002-05-22 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] CUNY details for Friday
  351. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Flyers
  352. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Flyers
  353. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Defeating Sony CD Security
  354. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Defeating Sony CD Security
  355. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux install on a Sony Vaio
  356. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux install on a Sony Vaio
  357. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] new flyer
  358. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] new flyer
  359. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Non profit application update
  360. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] The meeting at the Rose went well
  361. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What's the address of Killarny Rose?
  362. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What's the address of Killarny Rose?
  363. 2002-05-22 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Flyers
  364. 2002-05-22 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Flyers
  365. 2002-05-22 Brendan Tween <btween-at-cossettepost.com> Subject: [hangout] Defeating Sony CD Security
  366. 2002-05-22 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Friday 24 May 2002 NYLXS CUNY Demo
  367. 2002-05-22 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Friday 24 May 2002 NYLXS CUNY Demo
  368. 2002-05-22 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] GAR State Management System
  369. 2002-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] new flyer
  370. 2002-05-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: new flyer
  371. 2002-05-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: new flyer
  372. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tomorrw Morning NYSSCPA
  373. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tomorrw Morning NYSSCPA
  374. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: dhcp/dhcp-server (SuSE-SA:2002:019) (fwd)
  375. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: dhcp/dhcp-server (SuSE-SA:2002:019) (fwd)
  376. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Can I get someone's cell phone number
  377. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Can I get someone's cell phone number
  378. 2002-05-23 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] computers
  379. 2002-05-23 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] computers
  380. 2002-05-23 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] computers
  381. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] computers
  382. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] computers
  383. 2002-05-23 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Re: [hangout] CUNY details for Friday
  384. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY details for Friday
  385. 2002-05-23 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Re: [hangout] CUNY details for Friday
  386. 2002-05-23 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] CUNY Flyers
  387. 2002-05-23 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] CUNY Flyers
  388. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Organising tomorrow.
  389. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Organising tomorrow.
  390. 2002-05-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Organizing tomorrow.
  391. 2002-05-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Organizing tomorrow.
  392. 2002-05-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Organizing tomorrow.
  393. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Problem with my schedule tomorrow
  394. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Problem with my schedule tomorrow
  395. 2002-05-23 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: flyers needed
  396. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail Configuration
  397. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail Configuration
  398. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail Configuration
  399. 2002-05-23 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail Configuration
  400. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail Configuration
  401. 2002-05-23 From: "News" <news-at-impact-it.net> RE: [hangout] Sendmail Configuration
  402. 2002-05-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Sendmail Configuration
  403. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail Configuration
  404. 2002-05-23 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] Can I get someone's cell phone number
  405. 2002-05-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Demo
  406. 2002-05-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Demo
  407. 2002-05-23 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Friday 24 May 2002 NYLXS: GNU/Linux and Free Software Business Demo at CUNY
  408. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] JOB: Contract - Set up our office LAN [lkertz-at-privacyknowledge.net]
  409. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] JOB: Contract - Set up our office LAN [lkertz-at-privacyknowledge.net]
  410. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] RE: JOB Need an ORACLE GURU to install CRM MODULES and TWEAK some stuff [jelly-at-peanutbutterandjelly.tv]
  411. 2002-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] RE: JOB Need an ORACLE GURU to install CRM MODULES and TWEAK some stuff [jelly-at-peanutbutterandjelly.tv]
  412. 2002-05-23 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journal Deadline
  413. 2002-05-23 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journal Deadline
  414. 2002-05-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Organising tomorrow.
  415. 2002-05-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Organising tomorrow.
  416. 2002-05-23 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] Problem with my schedule tomorrow
  417. 2002-05-23 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: flyers needed
  418. 2002-05-23 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: flyers needed
  419. 2002-05-23 From: "News" <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] Sendmail Configuration
  420. 2002-05-23 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] [wwwac] WTC site hearings tomorrow at Pace (fwd)
  421. 2002-05-23 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] [wwwac] WTC site hearings tomorrow at Pace (fwd)
  422. 2002-05-24 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Defeating Sony CD Security
  423. 2002-05-24 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Defeating Sony CD Security
  424. 2002-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Problem with my schedule tomorrow (and other signs of parental success)
  425. 2002-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Problem with my schedule tomorrow (and other signs of parental success)
  426. 2002-05-24 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] Problem with my schedule tomorrow (and other signs of parental success)
  427. 2002-05-24 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] Problem with my schedule tomorrow (and other signs of parental success)
  428. 2002-05-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] [wwwac] Looking for PHP programmer (fwd)
  429. 2002-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Transport from Brooklyn
  430. 2002-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Transport from Brooklyn
  431. 2002-05-24 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> Subject: [hangout] wanted
  432. 2002-05-24 dustin perun <perun242-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] wie gehts?
  433. 2002-05-24 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] [wwwac] Looking for PHP programmer (fwd)
  434. 2002-05-25 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] CONGRATULATIONS ON HUGE SUCCESS<exclaim />
  435. 2002-05-25 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D converters (fwd)
  436. 2002-05-25 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Does GNU/Linux really save businesses money?
  437. 2002-05-25 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Possible Demo after HDTV wiretapping announcement
  438. 2002-05-25 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Possible Demo after HDTV wiretapping announcement
  439. 2002-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] roadrunner
  440. 2002-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] roadrunner
  441. 2002-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] roadrunner
  442. 2002-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] roadrunner
  443. 2002-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] roadrunner
  444. 2002-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] roadrunner
  445. 2002-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] roadrunner
  446. 2002-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] roadrunner
  447. 2002-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] roadrunner
  448. 2002-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting Tomorrow
  449. 2002-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting Tomorrow
  450. 2002-05-28 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Classes this week
  451. 2002-05-28 From: "Miguel E. Jimenez" <mej-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Classes this week
  452. 2002-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Classes this week
  453. 2002-05-28 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Re: [hangout] Roadrunner Service
  454. 2002-05-28 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Roadrunner Service
  455. 2002-05-28 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Re: [hangout] Roadrunner Service
  456. 2002-05-28 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Re: [hangout] Roadrunner Service
  457. 2002-05-28 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Roadrunner Service
  458. 2002-05-28 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Re: [hangout] Roadrunner Service
  459. 2002-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Classes this week - Changwe to Board Meeting
  460. 2002-05-28 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] roadrunner
  461. 2002-05-28 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] roadrunner
  462. 2002-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Roadrunner Service
  463. 2002-05-31 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FSI Summer Session
  464. 2002-05-31 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] FSI Summer Session

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