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From: Kevin Mark
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] Getting Rid of postfix and
exim on my laptop
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 01:28:33AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
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>> On Wednesday, 2008-10-22 at 20:48 -0400, Anton Aylward wrote:
>>> Carlos E. R. said the following on 10/22/2008 08:07 PM:
>>>>> As for "thousands" of syslog entries - that also means cron would be
>>>>> producing thousands of emails.
>>>> I don't mean that.
>>>>> The delivery doesn't have to be by mail - though it could with local
>>>>> delivery. I could be by a message sent to a window or a pop-up.
>>>> Certainly not! It would not work for headless machines or text only
>>>> machines, or machines where the administrator is not logged it.
>>> Indeed. Which is why SWATCH and other syslog watchers can pipe to
>>> various destinations - SMS, pager... whatever. It doesn't have to be a
>>> The point is to uncouple.
>>> More to the point, use of syslog integrates better with enterprise-level
>>> tools that consolidate reporting. I've installed these in banks and
>>> telcos; all the syslog gets routed to a central server and a database
>>> where it can be sliced and diced and used to produce pretty graphs or
>>> management, trend analysis, incident tracking feeds to ITIL .... and
>>> much more.
>> BTDT :-)
>> But openSUSE is not a big enterprise distro, it is a "user" distro.
> Yeah - and every desktop needs Postfix? No. Aside which, what does
> that mean. OpenSuSe can't
> run big iron because Novell markets something else?
> It seems to function fine on large systems.
some debian based info that maybe intesting/useful.
on Debian, there are a set of packages call 'essential', these are
required on all systems and can not be removed without a big warning as
they would lead to a non-functioning system.
for most debian systems, the install requires an MTA. Debian chooses
what that will be, currently exim4. After the install, you can change
this as long as it provides something similar. Debian has a parameter
for its software packages called a 'provides' parameter. It allows you
to install postfix and other similar MTAs which contain this metadata
'provides: mail-transport-agent'. This means that both a lightweight and
heavyduty MTA can be installed because they fullfill this system
'dependency'. I would expect that rpm based sytems have something
similar to install nullmailer or ssmtp.
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