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http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2006/11/the-751-no-go-zones-of-france



[Author's note: Please note that the update of Jan. 16, 2013
substantially changes my understanding of the ZUS.]

They go by the euphemistic term Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or Sensitive
Urban Zones, with the even more antiseptic acronym ZUS, and there are
751 of them as of last count. They are conveniently listed on one long
webpage, complete with street demarcations and map delineations.

What are they? Those places in France that the French state does not
fully control. They range from two zones in the medieval town of
Carcassonne to twelve in the heavily Muslim city of Marseilles, with
hardly a town in France lacking in its ZUS. The ZUS came into existence
in late 1996 and according to a 2004 estimate, nearly 5 million people
live in them.

Comment: The proliferation of ZUS suggest that the French state no
longer has full control over its territory. (November 14, 2006)

Nov. 28, 2006 update: For an insight into how bad things are, the police
in Lyons demonstrated on Nov. 9, denouncing "violence against the forces
of order." Things have reached a pretty sad state when the police have
to demonstrate in the streets against the criminals.

Jan. 5, 2008 update: In a remarkable statement, Michael Nazir-Ali, the
Pakistani-born bishop of Rochester, writes in the Daily Telegraph about
the situation in Great Britain:

there has been a worldwide resurgence of the ideology of Islamic
extremism. One of the results of this has been to further alienate the
young from the nation in which they were growing up and also to turn
already separate communities into "no-go" areas where adherence to this
ideology has become a mark of acceptability. Those of a different faith
or race may find it difficult to live or work there because of hostility
to them.

Jan. 16, 2008 update: Paul Belien of Brussels Journal provides an update
on the ZUS, connecting them to organized crime in a way that helps
explain police reluctance to intervene:

In May [2007], the French voters elected Mr. [Nicolas] Sarkozy as
president because he had promised to restore the authority of the
Republic over France's 751 no-go areas, the so-called zones urbaines
sensibles (ZUS, sensitive urban areas), where 5 million people - 8
percent of the population - live. During his first months in office he
has been too busy with other activities, such as selling nuclear plants
to Libya and getting divorced. While the French media publish nude
pictures of the future (third) Mrs. Sarkozy, the situation in the ZUS
has remained as "sensitive" as before.

People get mugged, even murdered, in the ZUS, but the media prefer
not to write about it. When large-scale rioting erupts and officers and
firemen are attacked, the behavior of the thugs is condoned with
references to their "poverty" and to the "racism" of the indigenous
French. The French media never devote their attention to the bleak
situation of intimidation and lawlessness in which 8 percent of the
population, including many poor indigenous French, are forced to live.
Muslim racism toward the "infidels" is never mentioned.

Xavier Raufer, a former French intelligence officer who heads the
department on organized crime and terrorism at the Institute of
Criminology of the University of Paris II, thinks that organized crime
has a lot to do with the indifference of the French establishment.

The ZUS are centers of drug trafficking. According to a recent
report of the French government's Interdepartmental Commission to Combat
Drug Traffic and Addiction (MILDT) 550,000 people in France consume
cannabis on a daily basis and 1.2 million on a regular basis. The annual
cannabis consumption amounts to 208 tons for a market value of 832
million euros ($1.2 billion in U.S. dollars). MILDT estimates that there
are between 6,000 and 13,000 small "entrepreneurs" and between 700 and
1,400 wholesalers who make a living out of dealing cannabis. The
wholesalers earn up to 550,000 euros ($820,000) per year. Since they
operate from within the ZUS the drug dealers are beyond the reach of the
French authorities.

The ZUS exist not only because Muslims wish to live in their own
areas according to their own culture and their own Shariah laws, but
also because organized crime wants to operate without the judicial and
fiscal interference of the French state. In France, Shariah law and
mafia rule have become almost identical.

Mar. 8, 2008 update: Britain has "ethnic" no-go areas for military
personnel in uniform, the Times (London) reports today at "Military
uniforms in public 'risk offending minorities'."

Certain areas in Britain will still have to remain off-limits for
servicemen and women in military gear, despite the Government's desire
for a nationwide uniform free-for-all, senior RAF sources acknowledged
yesterday. ... one senior air force source said that military commanders
had to be aware of potential problems of personnel wearing combat and
other military clothes in the street. "We're aware of the sensitivities,
for example, in some ethnic minority communities which is why we need to
have a dialogue with local authorities and police if we don't want to
cause a problem."

Mar. 16, 2008 update: John Cornwell, a leading historian and commentator
on religion, is generally skeptical of Nazir-Ali's no-go areas but finds
that if anyplace fits the profile, it's Bury Park in Luton:

Luton, like other enclaves, has experienced a spate of incidents
that look all too like attempts to make Bury Park a no-go area to
non-Muslims. Between November of last year and last month there were 18
attacks =E2=80=93 all registered by the police =E2=80=93 on five non-Muslim=
homes in the
area. One couple, Mr and Mrs Harrop, white residents in their eighties,
have had bricks hurled through their windows. The home of Mrs Palmer, a
widow of West Indian origin, aged 70, has been attacked four times; on
one occasion a metal beer keg crashed through her bay window while she
was watching TV.

Such attacks are not typical of the activities of the sort of
radicals who preach a global Islamic state, or potential terrorists,
who, according to one of my MI5 informants, merge into a background of
"innocent normalcy" till the last minute. DCI Ian Middleton of
Bedfordshire police says: "It's the perception of the victims that their
Muslim neighbours are to blame, and we have to respect that. But we have
our doubts." Middleton suspects, as does Margaret Moran, MP for Luton
South, that the attacks could be the work of small groups of white or
Muslim extremists, stirring up racial and inter-religious hatred for its
own sake.

I was to come across comparable "no-go" incidents in other parts of
Britain, such as threats against Muslim converts to Christianity, and
attacks on visiting social workers and Salvation Army facilities.

July 28, 2008 update: For information on the German case, see Kristian
Frigelj, "Unter Feinden," Die Welt. The teaser explains that "In many
German urban areas, the police hardly dare enter because they are
immediately assaulted." July 29, 2008 update: For a translation of this
article, see "In Enemy Territory."

Jan. 12, 2009 update: I consider the potential political import of these
no-go zones at "Muslim Autonomous Zones in the West?"

July 19, 2010 update: Due to problems with Turkish delinquents, German
police want their counterparts from Turkey to come in and patrol problem
areas of North Rhine-Westphalia. Also today, Baron Bodissey discusses
the general issue of no-go zones at "A Little Piece of Dar al-Islam."

Aug. 22, 2011 update: Soeren Kern returns to this subject with an
important overview at "European 'No-Go' Zones for Non-Muslims
Proliferating."

Islamic extremists are stepping up the creation of "no-go" areas in
European cities that are off-limits to non-Muslims. Many of the "no-go"
zones function as microstates governed by Islamic Sharia law.
Host-country authorities effectively have lost control in these areas
and in many instances are unable to provide even basic public aid such
as police, fire fighting and ambulance services.

The "no-go" areas are the by-product of decades of multicultural
policies that have encouraged Muslim immigrants to create parallel
societies and remain segregated rather than become integrated into their
European host nations.

He then surveys developments in the United Kingdom, France, Belgium,
Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and Sweden.

Aug. 4, 2012 update: The French Interior Ministry has created a new type
of no-go zone, called Zones de S=C3=A9curit=C3=A9 Prioritaires (ZSP), or Pr=
iority
Security Zones. The first batch contains 15 of them, basically the
Muslim-majority regions of major cities like Lille, Paris, Strasbourg,
Lyons, and Marseilles, as well as in French Guyana. Aug. 24, 2012
update: Soeren Kern explains these new zones in "France Seeks to Reclaim
'No-Go' Zones."

Jan. 16, 2013 update: I had an opportunity today to travel at length to
several banlieues (suburbs) around Paris, including Sarcelles, Val
d'Oise, and Seine-Saint-Denis. This comes on the heels of having visited
over the years the predominantly immigrant (and Muslim) areas of
Brussels, Copenhagen, Malm=C3=B6, Berlin, and Athens.

A couple of observations:

For a visiting American, these areas are very mild, even dull. We
who know the Bronx and Detroit expect urban hell in Europe too, but
there things look fine. The immigrant areas are hardly beautiful, but
buildings are intact, greenery abounds, and order prevails.
These are not full-fledged no-go zones but, as the French
nomenclature accurately indicates, "sensitive urban zones." In normal
times, they are unthreatening, routine places. But they do unpredictably
erupt, with car burnings, attacks on representatives of the state
(including police), and riots.

Having this first-hand experience, I regret having translated what the
French government terms Zones Urbaines Sensibles as no-go zones. One can
indeed "go" in them.

A typical sight in the commercial areas of "94," one of the most heavily
Muslim areas of France.

Typical housing.

Nov. 11, 2013 update: Andrew Harrod discusses the problems in Bonn at
"Germany's Sharia No-Go Zones."

Oct. 1, 2014 update: The Swedish police published a report on 55 areas
of heightened criminal activity under the anodyne title of En nationell
=C3=B6versikt av kriminella n=C3=A4tverk med stor p=C3=A5verkan i lokalsamh=
=C3=A4llet ("A
national survey of criminal networks with great influence in the local
community"). No ethnicity is mentioned but many happen to be regions
with Muslim majorities.

Jan. 13, 2015 update: Nigel Farage, leader of the United Kingdom
Independence Party, says that most big French cities have "no-go zones"
where non-Muslims, including police, cannot enter:

It's happening right across Europe. We have got no-go zones in most
of the big French cities. We've been turning a blind eye to preachers of
hate that have been coming here from the Middle East and saying things
for which the rest of us would be arrested. In parts of northern England
we've seen the sexual grooming of under-age girls committed by Muslim
men, in the majority, and for all of these things we are seeing the law
not being applied equally, we're seeing the police forces not doing
their job because we've suffered from moral cowardice. We have through
mass immigration and through not checking the details of those people
who have come to our countries, we have allowed big ghettos to develop
and when it comes to confronting tough issues we're run a mile and that
is why we're in the mess we're in, we've been led very badly. ... So,
wherever you look, wherever you look you see this blind eye being turned
and you see the growth of ghettos where the police and all the normal
agents of the law have withdrawn and that is where Sharia law has come in."

He added that he is "hoping and praying" that similar no-go zones do not
develop in British cities.

Jan. 14, 2015 update: Jack Sommers, a UK-based reporter for Huffington
Post, posed this series of questions to me about the ZUS and their
equivalents elsewhere in Europe:

Could you describe the places you visited in more detail? What were
your impressions of these places before you visited them? Did you feel
personally safe visiting them? Do you think there is any truth to the
claims being made that police and non-Muslims fear to visit them?

My reply:

=E2=80=8BI have visited predominantly immigrant (and largely Muslim) ar=
eas
of Athens, Berlin, Brussels, Copenhagen, the Hague, Malm=C3=B6, Paris, and
Stockholm.=E2=80=8B In the case of Paris, I spent time both in Belleville a=
nd in
such suburbs as Sarcelles, Val d'Oise, and Seine Saint Denis. I have
also visited the equivalent areas of Dearborn, Michigan, and Sydney,
Australia, plus analogous areas of Israel, including Jaffa, Nazareth,
eastern Jerusalem, Baqa al-Gharbiya, and Umm al-Fahm.

Before my travels, I expected these areas to be similar to the worst
areas of the United States, such as the Bronx or Detroit, where
buildings are decrepit, streets menacing, and outsiders feel distinctly
unwelcome.

My experiences starting in 2007 belied this expectation. All the
immigrant areas turned out to be well maintained, with safe streets, and
no sense of intimidation. I walked around, usually with camera in hand,
and felt at ease. I encountered no difficulties at all.

That said, there is a reason why the French government calls these
regions sensibles (sensitive, delicate). They contain many social
pathologies (unemployment, drugs, political extremism), they seethe with
antagonism toward the majority society, and are prone to outbreaks of
violence.

So, from an American point of view, these areas are a bit confusing:
potentially dangerous, yes, but in normal times very ordinary looking
and with no sense of foreboding. Thus, the term no-go zone does not
accurately reflect the situation.

Jan. 16, 2015 update: I reply to a critique that my visits do not amount
to evidence at http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/220430

Jan. 17, 2015 update: Research into the term no-go zones referring to
Muslim habitations in Western Europe done by the pseudonymous Yoel Natan
finds its earliest use to be on my website, DanielPipes.org: An
Australia resident who calls himself "fed up" wrote on March 22, 2006,
that "In Sydney, Australia, we have large areas of our city that are
deemed no-go zones."

The next use appears to be by the Norwegian analyst who calls himself
Fjordman, on July 13, 2006, who defined "Muslim no-go zones" as places
"where anything representing a Western institution (post office truck,
firemen, even mail order delivery firms) was routinely ambushed with
Molotov cocktails."

Then came my use of the term on November 14, 2006. My originality was in
translating Zones Urbaines Sensibles as no-go zones.

Jan. 20, 2015 update: I offer a more skeptical view of the ZUS today at
"Does Europe Have No-go Zones?" in The Blaze.

Dec. 2, 2015 update: I offer another =E2=80=93 my third, more nuanced, and,=
I
hope, final =E2=80=93 assessment of the no-go-zone issue today at "Muslim '=
No-go
Zones' in Europe?" in the Daily Caller. In it, I settle on the term
"partial no-go zones."

Related Topics: Criminality, Muslims in Europe, Radical Islam

Related Articles:

Muslim "No-go Zones" in Europe?
Does Europe Have No-go Zones?
Muslim Autonomous Zones in the West?

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  30. 2016-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] JT's words
  31. 2016-12-06 James E Keenan <jkeen-at-verizon.net> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The ny.pm talks I'd like to hear
  32. 2016-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Islam s fine
  33. 2016-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Kindly Share the Free Journal
  34. 2016-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] good Shabbos All
  35. 2016-12-10 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Michael Kingsley and the Fascist in Office
  36. 2016-12-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] slow Vietnam like creep into Syrian civil war
  37. 2016-12-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] C++ returning lvalue references and pointers and
  38. 2016-12-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] a real live dinosaur tail found in the flesh
  39. 2016-12-10 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Movie of the Week
  40. 2016-12-10 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Michael Kingsley and the Fascist in Office
  41. 2016-12-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] I knew as soon as I learned about dark matter that
  42. 2016-12-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend
  43. 2016-12-11 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend
  44. 2016-12-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friendII
  45. 2016-12-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend III
  46. 2016-12-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend IV
  47. 2016-12-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend V
  48. 2016-12-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend VI
  49. 2016-12-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend VI
  50. 2016-12-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend VII
  51. 2016-12-12 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend VI
  52. 2016-12-11 Rick Tanner <leaf-at-real-time.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [crossfire] Crossfire wiki offline for maintenance
  53. 2016-12-12 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #281 - The holidays are upon us!
  54. 2016-12-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend VI
  55. 2016-12-12 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend VI
  56. 2016-12-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Minoan history
  57. 2016-12-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Death of the Sea Saw
  58. 2016-12-12 Nawaz Nazeer Ahamed <nawaz.nazeer.ahamed-at-oracle.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] MySQL Community Server 5.6.35 has been released
  59. 2016-12-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] C++ Threads Workshop
  60. 2016-12-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Summer Jobs
  61. 2016-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend VI
  62. 2016-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: [dinosaur] Ceratopsid (Centrosaurinae:
  63. 2016-12-13 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] goldfinch
  64. 2016-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Apollo Moon Shot Photography
  65. 2016-12-14 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] For Ruben ( + those in NYC Metro ) : Holiday Social
  66. 2016-12-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend VI
  67. 2016-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend VI
  68. 2016-12-14 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Apollo Moon Shot Photography
  69. 2016-12-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend VI
  70. 2016-12-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Your Santa Imam is here
  71. 2016-12-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend VI
  72. 2016-12-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] islam is your friend VI
  73. 2016-12-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Barak and Jerry Show
  74. 2016-12-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Michael Kingsley and the Fascist in Office
  75. 2016-12-15 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <mat-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Join the MAT Program Class of 2017
  76. 2016-12-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] this story is 5 years late on drug prices
  77. 2016-12-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Attacks at Cornel
  78. 2016-12-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  79. 2016-12-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  80. 2016-12-17 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Movie of the Week! Hello BOB!!
  81. 2016-12-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] anyone want to see Star Wars tonight?
  82. 2016-12-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  83. 2016-12-16 From: "APhA's Pharmacy Today" <PTdaily-at-aphanet.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] December 16,
  84. 2016-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  85. 2016-12-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  86. 2016-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  87. 2016-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  88. 2016-12-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  89. 2016-12-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  90. 2016-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Look C++ is a functional programming language
  91. 2016-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  92. 2016-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  93. 2016-12-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  94. 2016-12-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  95. 2016-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try
  96. 2016-12-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try
  97. 2016-12-19 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try
  98. 2016-12-19 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try
  99. 2016-12-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try
  100. 2016-12-19 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] another offbeat distro
  101. 2016-12-19 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try
  102. 2016-12-19 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] systemd critique et al
  103. 2016-12-19 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try
  104. 2016-12-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try
  105. 2016-12-19 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try
  106. 2016-12-19 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #282 - The White Camels are roaming
  107. 2016-12-19 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try: Please explain what the
  108. 2016-12-19 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try: Please explain what the
  109. 2016-12-19 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the issues with SystemD: why are they doing
  110. 2016-12-19 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the issues with SystemD: why are they doing
  111. 2016-12-19 ISOC-NY announcements <announce-at-lists.isoc-ny.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [isoc-ny] JOB: Telecommunications Policy Specialist
  112. 2016-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  113. 2016-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  114. 2016-12-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the issues with SystemD: why are they doing
  115. 2016-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] NYLXS Textbook Section
  116. 2016-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] NYLXS Textbook Section
  117. 2016-12-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try: Please explain what the
  118. 2016-12-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Distros to try: Please explain what the
  119. 2016-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] NYLXS Textbook Section
  120. 2016-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Workshops -at- ACM/SPEC ICPE 2017 - Call for
  121. 2016-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] wow - just got an email from Ruth
  122. 2016-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT
  123. 2016-12-20 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  124. 2016-12-20 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  125. 2016-12-20 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT
  126. 2016-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT
  127. 2016-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT
  128. 2016-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ocean Parkway Protest!!
  129. 2016-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The ever growing police state
  130. 2016-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Serious danger to state sovereignty and your right
  131. 2016-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] F'ing Mouse Pad
  132. 2016-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  133. 2016-12-20 IEEE Engineering in Medicine and Biology Society <noreply-at-embs.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] BHI'17 Registration Now Open!
  134. 2016-12-20 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Serious danger to state sovereignty and your
  135. 2016-12-20 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  136. 2016-12-20 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT
  137. 2016-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT
  138. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Serious danger to state sovereignty and your
  139. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  140. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The fascinating case of Bernie Goetz
  141. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  142. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The fascinating case of Bernie Goetz
  143. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  144. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The fascinating case of Bernie Goetz
  145. 2016-12-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Serious danger to state sovereignty and your
  146. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Thank god he is dead
  147. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn Principal Shot to Death While Looking for
  148. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Marla Hanson recalls her nightmare
  149. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Official crime numbers in Kings County
  150. 2016-12-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  151. 2016-12-21 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] LIU Brooklyn Campus Safety
  152. 2016-12-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] LIU Brooklyn Campus Safety
  153. 2016-12-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] What California gets for Christmas
  154. 2016-12-21 From: "Amy at NTEN" <amy-at-nten.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] NTEN Connect: The Best NPTech Stories of 2016,
  155. 2016-12-21 IEEE Engineering in Medicine and Biology Society <noreply-at-embs.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] 2017 ISBI Call for Abstracts- Submission Deadline
  156. 2016-12-21 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT
  157. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT
  158. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Marnchester by the Sea
  159. 2016-12-21 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT
  160. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT
  161. 2016-12-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] What California gets for Christmas
  162. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT
  163. 2016-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT
  164. 2016-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] the sorry state of this country and its bizarre
  165. 2016-12-22 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] What California gets for Christmas: Yeah but
  166. 2016-12-22 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] sorry state this country,
  167. 2016-12-22 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT | | Yeah,
  168. 2016-12-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] sorry state this country,
  169. 2016-12-22 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Shelter Cove- which one ? There are two- one in
  170. 2016-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Shelter Cove- which one ? There are two- one in
  171. 2016-12-22 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] And be aware you were an unexcused no-show
  172. 2016-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] And be aware you were an unexcused no-show
  173. 2016-12-22 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] And be aware you were an unexcused no-show
  174. 2016-12-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] And be aware you were an unexcused no-show
  175. 2016-12-22 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] We were talking about how you could transport
  176. 2016-12-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] And be aware you were an unexcused no-show
  177. 2016-12-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Shelter Cove- which one ? There are two- one in
  178. 2016-12-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] This Mayor is an IDIOT | | Yeah,
  179. 2016-12-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] sorry state this country,
  180. 2016-12-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] What California gets for Christmas: Yeah but
  181. 2016-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Homeless have taken over 34th street
  182. 2016-12-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the sorry state of this country and its bizarre
  183. 2016-12-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the sorry state of this country and its bizarre
  184. 2016-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] HOPL (History of Programming Languages)
  185. 2016-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Tiny Compiler in many languages at
  186. 2016-12-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Chag Simaach
  187. 2016-12-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] jobs
  188. 2016-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Sanders and Socialism
  189. 2016-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Free Speach
  190. 2016-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Google and C++
  191. 2016-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Conflicts of Interest
  192. 2016-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Syria wished you a Merry Christmas
  193. 2016-12-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Light even in the darkness
  194. 2016-12-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Syria wished you a Merry Christmas
  195. 2016-12-26 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #283 - Merry Christmas & Happy Hanukkah
  196. 2016-12-26 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #283 - Merry Christmas & Happy Hanukkah
  197. 2016-12-27 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Israel band, Iran Good
  198. 2016-12-27 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Israel band, Iran Good
  199. 2016-12-27 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] International criminals, every jew
  200. 2016-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] she's gone
  201. 2016-12-27 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] International criminals, every jew
  202. 2016-12-28 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] International criminals, every jew
  203. 2016-12-28 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] can't find the damn ball anywhere here
  204. 2016-12-28 From: "Pharmacy Times" <enews-at-pharmacytimes.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Xtampza(R) ER (oxycodone) Product Bulletin
  205. 2016-12-29 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Police State gets one step closer

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