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DATE 2022-01-11
FROM raf
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On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 01:20:49PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 02:09:45PM +1100, raf wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 04:10:26AM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >
> > > > > > /etc/postfix/main.cf:
> > > > > > smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot
> > > > > > smtpd_sasl_path = private/auth
> > > > >
> > > > > Can't this be done with tls withouth dovecot or sasl?
> > > >
> > > > Authentication is needed by Dovecot for IMAP access
> > > > to read email. So it should be available for use by
> > > > Postfix as well.
> > > >
>
> It is not working anyway. The reason is that
>
> A) It won't relay
> B) The IP addresses are mmarked in spamhoause as not valid for email
> service
>
> Outbound Email policy of Cablevision/OptimumOnline for this IP range
>
> (Jan 2007) Email sent from this IP block via port 25 (SMTP) should only
> be sent via the designated outbound mail server for Optimum Online
> customers: mail.optimum.net The use of port 25 is obsolete, you should
> use port 465/TLS (SMTPS) or port 587 (SMTP-Submit /w STARTTLS) to send
> mail, whether you are using Optimum's server or a third-party ISP's
> server.
>
> See OOL's support site at
> http://optimum.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/optimum.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=39
>
> Standard-tier OOL customers are blocked from sending/receiving mail via
> port 25 (SMTP) to any other servers since 2004. See OOL support site:
> http://optimum.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/optimum.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=876
>
> You may send mail via another ISP by using SMTP-Submit (port 587) or
> SMTPS (port 465/TLS) service, if your third-party ISP's mail server
> supports this service.
>
> It is hiting on port 587 so I don't know a way around this that is
> satisfactory. it is BS and annoying
> http://optimum.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/optimum.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=876http://optimum.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/optimum.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=876

The above sounds very different to what I thought you
were talking about. I thought you were saying that
*your* Postfix server wasn't relaying email for your
users, and that some form of user authentication
(Dovecot SASL or TLS client certificates) was needed
locally to be able to allow relaying *by* your Postfix
server.

The above sounds like your problem is that your Postfix
server needs to send all outgoing mail via a specific
*remote* mail server (Cablevision/OptimumOnline), and
that *it* won't relay your email unless your Postfix
server authenticates itself to that remote server, so
that that remote server will be willing to relay mail
that comes out of your Postfix server. That's a very
different problem.

If that's the case, your Postfix doesn't need access to
Dovecot's SASL abilities, or to TLS client certificates.
It just needs to connect to the remote mail server in
the way that that server requires, by sypplying a username
and password to it.

I think it could look something like this:

/etc/postfix/main.cf:
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd

/etc/postfix/transport:
* relay:[mail.optimum.net]:587

/etc/postfix/sasl_password:
USER-at-mail.optimum.net:PASSWORD

But a transport map is probably overkill if it applies
to all outgoing mail. I think that the transport_maps
parameter and the transport file can be replaced by the
relayhost parameter:

relayhost = [mail.optimum.net]:587

But you'd still need the smtp_sasl_auth_enable and
smtp_sasl_password_maps parameters, and the
sasl_password file.

I hope that makes some sense. But I still don't
understand your statement that "It is hitting on port
587" I'm not sure what you mean by "It". Is "It" your
Postfix server connecting to the remote ISP mail server
on port 587, and failing to authenticate there? If so,
the above should help. But if you are referring to
something connecting to your Postfix server on port
587, then I'm probably still misundertanding the nature
of your problem.

cheers,
raf

P.S. The URLs above are inaccessible. Perhaps they only
exist for their customers. The optimum.custhelp.com
domain doesn't even resolve to an address for me.
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  60. 2022-01-12 Bill Cole <postfixlists-070913-at-billmail.scconsult.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  61. 2022-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  62. 2022-01-12 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  63. 2022-01-12 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  64. 2022-01-11 raf <postfix-at-raf.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  65. 2022-01-11 Phil Biggs <mb170712-at-pjb.cc> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Virtual users with postfix and dovecot
  66. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  67. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  68. 2022-01-18 Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uhlar-at-fantomas.sk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  69. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  70. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  71. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  72. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  73. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  74. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  75. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  76. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  77. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  78. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  79. 2022-01-12 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  80. 2022-01-11 Bill Cole <postfixlists-070913-at-billmail.scconsult.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  81. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  82. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  83. 2022-01-18 Chris Green <cl-at-isbd.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding a second line to .forward,
  84. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  85. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  86. 2022-01-11 Phil Biggs <mb170712-at-pjb.cc> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Virtual users with postfix and dovecot
  87. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  88. 2022-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  89. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding a second line to .forward,
  90. 2022-01-12 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  91. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  92. 2022-01-12 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  93. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  94. 2022-01-06 Viktor Dukhovni <postfix-users-at-dukhovni.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  95. 2022-01-11 raf <postfix-at-raf.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  96. 2022-01-06 raf <postfix-at-raf.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  97. 2022-01-05 raf <postfix-at-raf.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  98. 2022-01-05 Viktor Dukhovni <postfix-users-at-dukhovni.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  99. 2022-01-05 Viktor Dukhovni <postfix-users-at-dukhovni.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  100. 2022-01-12 Bill Cole <postfixlists-070913-at-billmail.scconsult.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  101. 2022-01-12 Bill Cole <postfixlists-070913-at-billmail.scconsult.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  102. 2022-01-11 Bill Cole <postfixlists-070913-at-billmail.scconsult.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  103. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  104. 2022-01-12 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  105. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  106. 2022-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  107. 2022-01-18 Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uhlar-at-fantomas.sk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  108. 2022-01-18 From: "Joe Acquisto-j4" <joea-at-j4computers.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] SASL questions
  109. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  110. 2022-01-18 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: SASL questions
  111. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] (fwd) de Blasio ruined New York City
  112. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Check this out. It doesn
  113. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chofitz Chaim Auction needs some help...
  114. 2022-01-18 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FSF expands process for associate members to
  115. 2022-01-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Check this out. It doesn
  116. 2022-01-20 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Check this out. It doesn
  117. 2022-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Check this out. It doesn
  118. 2022-01-19 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New year,
  119. 2022-01-24 G?bor Szab? <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #548 - Perl Books Collection
  120. 2022-01-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The suppresion of desenting scientific opinions
  121. 2022-01-26 From: "Pat Schloss" <pschloss-at-umich.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [mothur] mothur v.1.47.0 release
  122. 2022-01-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] security and Free Software in the WSJ - eh
  123. 2022-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New Zealand Lockdown
  124. 2022-01-30 Steve Hay <stevehay-at-apache.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ANNOUNCE] mod_perl-2.0.12
  125. 2022-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Embperl and threaded mpm?
  126. 2022-01-02 Neil Gunton <neil-at-nilspace.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Embperl and threaded mpm?
  127. 2022-01-02 Jim Tappe <jtappe-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Embperl and threaded mpm?

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