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It seems to have been adopted and is being actively maintained
"downstream."

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libembperl-perl

On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 6:10 AM Ruben Safir wrote:

> Is it a good idea to adopt this package and update it?
>
> It wil likely die otherwise
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:21:14PM -0700, Neil Gunton wrote:
> > Ruben Safir wrote:
> > >On 06/26/2017 07:51 PM, Neil Gunton wrote:
> > >>richter-at-ecos.de wrote:
> > >>>Hi Neil,
> > >>>
> > >>>Embperl is not working with threaded mpm.
> > >>>
> > >>>Preloading all your perl code saves a lot of memory due to code
> sharing.
> > >>>
> > >>>The main issue is, that you have to make sure, not to open any file or
> > >>>database connection or similar in the preload code, because that will
> > >>>be shared too, which does not work
> > >>
> > >>Thanks, Gerald. So, just to be clear, what my preload routine in
> > >>startup.pl does is the following. Maybe you can confirm that I'm doing
> > >>it right.
> > >>
> > >>if (Apache2::ServerUtil::restart_count() == 1)
> > >>{
> > >> preload_dirs();
> > >> $Embperl::initparam{preloadfiles} = \-at-preload_files;
> > >>}
> > >>
> > >>The preload_dirs() simply traverses my code tree and calls this for
> each
> > >>file:
> > >>
> > >>push (-at-preload_files, {inputfile => $filename, path => $path, import =>
> > >>0, input_escmode => 0, options => 16, debug => 0x7fffffff});
> > >>
> > >>Does that look about right? If as you say it's worthwhile in terms of
> > >>memory then I might look at re-enabling it again. I think I disabled it
> > >>originally because it made restarting the server quite slow, but it
> > >>would be useful to have it as an option should I need it.
> > >>
> > >
> > >looks right to me although I never did this. You are just setting up
> > >the global parameters
> >
> > Ok, but I'm wondering if there is something else I should be doing
> > to execute the actual preload. It seems that all I do here is give
> > Embperl an array, but when I enable the preload, it just goes
> > through everything suspiciously quickly. I don't think it's actually
> > executing anything at preload time, though I could be wrong. I'm
> > thinking there's something else I need to do to tell Embperl "ok,
> > now actually load all those files"...
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
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=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 =
at 6:10 AM Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbr=
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> wrote:
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex">Is it a good idea to adopt this package and update it?



It wil likely die otherwise





On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:21:14PM -0700, Neil Gunton wrote:

> Ruben Safir wrote:

> >On 06/26/2017 07:51 PM, Neil Gunton wrote:

> >>richter-at-e=
cos.de
wrote:

> >>>Hi Neil,

> >>>

> >>>Embperl is not working with threaded mpm.

> >>>

> >>>Preloading all your perl code saves a lot of memory due to=
code sharing.

> >>>

> >>>The main issue is, that you have to make sure, not to open=
any file or

> >>>database connection or similar in the preload code, becaus=
e that will

> >>>be shared too, which does not work

> >>

> >>Thanks, Gerald. So, just to be clear, what my preload routine =
in

> >>ank">startup.pl does is the following. Maybe you can confirm that I'=
;m doing

> >>it right.

> >>

> >>if (Apache2::ServerUtil::restart_count() =3D=3D 1)

> >>{

> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 preload_dirs();

> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 $Embperl::initparam{preloadfiles} =3D \-at-preload_=
files;

> >>}

> >>

> >>The preload_dirs() simply traverses my code tree and calls thi=
s for each

> >>file:

> >>

> >>push (-at-preload_files, {inputfile =3D> $filename, path =3D&g=
t; $path, import =3D>

> >>0, input_escmode =3D> 0, options =3D> 16, debug =3D> =
0x7fffffff});

> >>

> >>Does that look about right? If as you say it's worthwhile =
in terms of

> >>memory then I might look at re-enabling it again. I think I di=
sabled it

> >>originally because it made restarting the server quite slow, b=
ut it

> >>would be useful to have it as an option should I need it.

> >>

> >

> >looks right to me although I never did this.=C2=A0 You are just se=
tting up

> >the global parameters

>

> Ok, but I'm wondering if there is something else I should be doing=


> to execute the actual preload. It seems that all I do here is give

> Embperl an array, but when I enable the preload, it just goes

> through everything suspiciously quickly. I don't think it's ac=
tually

> executing anything at preload time, though I could be wrong. I'mr>
> thinking there's something else I need to do to tell Embperl "=
;ok,

> now actually load all those files"...

>

> Neil

>

>

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  21. 2022-01-10 Alex <mysqlstudent-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] TLS ciphers
  22. 2022-01-10 Alex <mysqlstudent-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] TLS ciphers
  23. 2022-01-10 From: "Medscape News Alert" <Medscape_News_Alert-at-mail.medscape.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FDA OKs New Adult Insomnia Med
  24. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] One Man, One Vote..
  25. 2022-01-11 From: "Shaina Taub" <shainataub-at-e.atlanticrecords.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 'Songs of the Great Hill'
  26. 2022-01-12 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Renaming openSUSE repositories for
  27. 2022-01-12 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] MyGNUHealth Flatpak
  28. 2022-01-11 Alessio <alciregi-at-posteo.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] MyGNUHealth Flatpak
  29. 2022-01-12 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Renaming openSUSE repositories for GNU
  30. 2022-01-12 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] MyGNUHealth Flatpak
  31. 2022-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] what vaccines mean to business
  32. 2022-01-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Anti-Semetism in the coin business?
  33. 2022-01-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] You really need to see what can be done without a
  34. 2022-01-14 From: "Greg Farough, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Share your free software journey and help others
  35. 2022-01-15 Alessio <alciregi-at-posteo.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] desktop and metainfo files
  36. 2022-01-15 From: "Medscape CME & Education" <Medscape-at-mail.medscape.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Help Improve The Lives of Those Living With HIV
  37. 2022-01-14 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] desktop and metainfo files
  38. 2022-01-14 Alessio <alciregi-at-posteo.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] desktop and metainfo files
  39. 2022-01-14 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Renaming openSUSE repositories for
  40. 2022-01-14 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Renaming openSUSE repositories for
  41. 2022-01-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Faucci and his critics
  42. 2022-01-17 G?bor Szab? <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #547 - Learning a human language vs.
  43. 2022-01-17 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] desktop and metainfo files
  44. 2022-01-17 Alessio <alciregi-at-posteo.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] desktop and metainfo files
  45. 2022-01-17 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] desktop and metainfo files
  46. 2022-01-17 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] desktop and metainfo files
  47. 2022-01-18 Alessio <alciregi-at-posteo.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] desktop and metainfo files
  48. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  49. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  50. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  51. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  52. 2022-01-18 Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uhlar-at-fantomas.sk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  53. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  54. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  55. 2022-01-18 Chris Green <cl-at-isbd.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding a second line to .forward,
  56. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  57. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  58. 2022-01-12 Bill Cole <postfixlists-070913-at-billmail.scconsult.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  59. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding a second line to .forward,
  60. 2022-01-12 Bill Cole <postfixlists-070913-at-billmail.scconsult.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  61. 2022-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  62. 2022-01-12 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  63. 2022-01-12 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  64. 2022-01-11 raf <postfix-at-raf.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  65. 2022-01-11 Phil Biggs <mb170712-at-pjb.cc> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Virtual users with postfix and dovecot
  66. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  67. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  68. 2022-01-18 Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uhlar-at-fantomas.sk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  69. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  70. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  71. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  72. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  73. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  74. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  75. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  76. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  77. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  78. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  79. 2022-01-12 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  80. 2022-01-11 Bill Cole <postfixlists-070913-at-billmail.scconsult.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  81. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  82. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  83. 2022-01-18 Chris Green <cl-at-isbd.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding a second line to .forward,
  84. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  85. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  86. 2022-01-11 Phil Biggs <mb170712-at-pjb.cc> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Virtual users with postfix and dovecot
  87. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  88. 2022-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  89. 2022-01-18 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding a second line to .forward,
  90. 2022-01-12 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  91. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  92. 2022-01-12 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  93. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  94. 2022-01-06 Viktor Dukhovni <postfix-users-at-dukhovni.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  95. 2022-01-11 raf <postfix-at-raf.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  96. 2022-01-06 raf <postfix-at-raf.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  97. 2022-01-05 raf <postfix-at-raf.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  98. 2022-01-05 Viktor Dukhovni <postfix-users-at-dukhovni.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  99. 2022-01-05 Viktor Dukhovni <postfix-users-at-dukhovni.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  100. 2022-01-12 Bill Cole <postfixlists-070913-at-billmail.scconsult.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  101. 2022-01-12 Bill Cole <postfixlists-070913-at-billmail.scconsult.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  102. 2022-01-11 Bill Cole <postfixlists-070913-at-billmail.scconsult.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  103. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  104. 2022-01-12 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  105. 2022-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  106. 2022-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  107. 2022-01-18 Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uhlar-at-fantomas.sk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  108. 2022-01-18 From: "Joe Acquisto-j4" <joea-at-j4computers.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] SASL questions
  109. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  110. 2022-01-18 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: SASL questions
  111. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] (fwd) de Blasio ruined New York City
  112. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Check this out. It doesn
  113. 2022-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chofitz Chaim Auction needs some help...
  114. 2022-01-18 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FSF expands process for associate members to
  115. 2022-01-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Check this out. It doesn
  116. 2022-01-20 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Check this out. It doesn
  117. 2022-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Check this out. It doesn
  118. 2022-01-19 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New year,
  119. 2022-01-24 G?bor Szab? <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #548 - Perl Books Collection
  120. 2022-01-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The suppresion of desenting scientific opinions
  121. 2022-01-26 From: "Pat Schloss" <pschloss-at-umich.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [mothur] mothur v.1.47.0 release
  122. 2022-01-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] security and Free Software in the WSJ - eh
  123. 2022-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New Zealand Lockdown
  124. 2022-01-30 Steve Hay <stevehay-at-apache.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ANNOUNCE] mod_perl-2.0.12
  125. 2022-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Embperl and threaded mpm?
  126. 2022-01-02 Neil Gunton <neil-at-nilspace.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Embperl and threaded mpm?
  127. 2022-01-02 Jim Tappe <jtappe-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Embperl and threaded mpm?

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