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MESSAGE
DATE 2008-01-19
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fios - David Sugar
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On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 01:55:25PM -0500, Mark Simko wrote:
> That's a ridiculous excuse. Borrow a pc. An old laptop is fine. They are
> all over.
>

I agree it is a ridicule excuse on the part of T/W but as for me I haven't
owned a MS OS in almost a decade and have no intention of buying one for
the T/W's ego.

If you want to bring your DOS box to Liberty, NY and help them do an install
I'll pay you for your time ;)

Ruben

> Or an old desktop pc! people get rid of them all the time!
>
> Or, use an old hard drive and load Windoze!
>
> Somehow, this just seems to be a non-problem.
>
>
> On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 10:49 -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 02:21:39AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 11:53:22PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As we prepared to open a new Freedom Technology Center in a rehabilitated
> > > > site in New Jersey, I came to learn that Verizon was capable of offering
> > > > fiber service at our location. Officially, they only claim to support
> > > > those using Microsoft Windows and Mac OS/X with their service. In
> > > > fact, with a little foreknowledge, you can have installed, activated,
> > > > and use your FiOS service with an entirely free operating system such
> > > > as GNU/Linux.
> > > >
> > > > Verizon will run a fiber cable to your home or business, and have it
> > > > terminate not on a D-mark, but rather on a special optical termination
> > > > box. This box has both PSTN jacks and an ethernet jack. The ethernet
> > > > jack they will normally run to a wireless/wired router that they also
> > > > provide. The router they give you is generally preconfigured as a NAT,
> > > > and as 192.168.1.x network.
> > > >
> > > About 2 years ago, I got DSL from verizon and went through the same
> > > procedure for it. The web said that there was some way to activate the
> > > service by asking verizon to 'just do it' without the windows install
> > > but I could not convice anyone of this. End result, I borrowed my
> > > sisters pc to install it and have it do the dirty work. My estimation is
> > > that it did this:
> >
> > I'm having this same problem right now in the Catskills. The only board
> > band access is through Time-Warner/Roadrunner and they just won't install
> > anything without a Mac or DOS box available.
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> > > configured the router(a westell) from a pre-configured 'mydsl' account
> > > setting to my username/password and sent some data to verizon to
> > > activate my account and who-knows-what-else. So the setup of the router
> > > is not that hard part, but convincing someone to setup the account that
> > > it needs is. Once configured, its just like any other router. I have had
> > > some connectivity issues and have always found the issue to not be on my
> > > end, not that they admit it. One person said I reset my 'modem' too many
> > > times and it needed to be replace. So getting tech support is also tough
> > > from the free software end or getting someone to know how to
> > > troubleshoot sans Windows.
> > > -K
> > > ps. about 8 months ago FIOS was setup in my area, a test market I think.
> > > but I dont think anyone on my block as signed up.
> > > --
> > > | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: |
> > > | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/|
> > > | `. `' Operating System | go to counter.li.org and |
> > > | `- http://www.debian.org/ | be counted! #238656 |
> > > | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org |
> > > |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! |
> > > |_______ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed _______|
> >

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