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DATE 2008-01-27
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Republican Endorsements and the facts
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 05:40:05PM -0500, Michael L. Richardson wrote:
> Ruben, I totally disagree. The best thing to happen to New York City
> was Giulliani leaving office. His first 4 years in office he did not
> meet with any Black Leaders (elected or otherwise) creating his own
> racial polarizing. When he finally meet with black Leaders he ignored
> them. I am a 55 year old Black Man and I have lived my entire life in
> one or another of the Five Boughs. I never feared for my life until
> Giullani's permissiveness with the Police (it's the Police I feared
> shooting me not any would be mugger). The police violence against has
> not ended. The events after 9-11 saved him from the righteous anger of
> the people of this city. Don't forget he Sold us (New York City) down
> the river [why else would he fly the Arkansas flag over city hall?
> Arkansas did not take the City by force]. I leave you with this
> question, If he was such a good Mayor why did he barricade himself in
> City Hall? You do remember the barricades?


I remember my wife being dragged into the Flatbush Avenue train station
by a band of HS kids and the owners of the comicbook store running down the
stairs to resue them to result in a bloody standoff in which Ellen finaly
escaped..

I remember Howard Avenue and Vanderbilt Avenue patrolled up and down
by drug dealer and 3 infants in a week being shot down in their rooms
by random gun fire.

I remember a lot of things. I also remember standing on Troy Avenue
and Eastern Parkway running into a crowd of rioters on the day of the
riots trying to prevent them from torching a mini-van.
yeah - I do remmeber.

Ruben

>
> Ruben Safir wrote:
> >Brooklyn, NY
> >January 27th, 2008
> >
> >To The Editors of the New York Times
> >
> >The endorsements that the NY Times made this week of John McCain in the
> >Republican primary had acute inaccuracies with regard to Mayor Giulliani.
> >The Times wrote:
> >
> >“The real Mr. Giuliani, whom many New Yorkers came to know and mistrust,
> >is a narrow, obsessively secretive, vindictive man who saw no need to
> >limit police power. Racial polarization was as much a legacy of his
> >tenure as the rebirth of Times Square.
> >
> >Mr. Giuliani’s arrogance and bad judgment are breathtaking. When he
> >claims fiscal prudence, we remember how he ran through surpluses without
> >a thought to the inevitable downturn and bequeathed huge deficits to his
> >successor. He fired Police Commissioner William Bratton, the architect of
> >the drop in crime, because he couldn’t share the limelight. He later
> >gave the job to Bernard Kerik, who has now been indicted on fraud and
> >corruption charges.”
> >
> >The complaint by the Times that Giuliani is a secretive vindictive
> >person is not news. Up until riots broke out in Brooklyn, the Times
> >banged this drum relentlessly. But the claims that he saw no need to
> >limit police power and was racially polarizing, or left a legacy of
> >racial polarization make me wonder if the current editors of the Times
> >actually lived in New York City in the years prior to the Rudy miracle.
> >
> >Giuliani didn't create the racially charged atmosphere in New York
> >prior to his election. He inherited. Did the times forget the race
> >riots that pit West Indian Blacks against Orthodox Jews under the
> >Dinken's administration? Did they forget the 2000 murders a month,
> >mostly of Black and minority young people prior to Giuliani removing
> >50,000 illegal handguns off the street? Did the Major forget how race
> >baiting politics by previous administrations allowed Sunny Carson and
> >Al Sharpton to protest in front of an innocent Korean Grocery store on
> >Church Avenue for nearly two years which resulted in a racially charged
> >powder keg which nearly exploded in the face of the entire outer boroughs?
> >
> >New York's current state of racial harmony, good but hardly perfect,
> >is a direct result of a Giuliani ending violence. In fact, the Rudy
> >Miracle which ended violence all across New York made the job of his
> >predecessor easy. Slum and crime infested communities all across this
> >city where made safe for the first time in generations. Williamsburg,
> >Harlem, Long Island City, Washington Heights, Red Hook, Cobble Hill, Fort
> >Greene, Greenpoint, Bushwick and Bedford-Stuyvesant, bastions of murder,
> >drug deaths, AID's and hopelessness have opened up to young people,
> >businesses and the arts. Young women who now job without any fears
> >down Hoyt street, 125th Street, and Lafayette Avenue would have been
> >attacked, raped and driven from their homes just a few short years ago.
> >Does the Times have a nostalgic remembrance or just bias with the facts?
> >
> >The financial problems that Rudy left the city with, even after 9-11,
> >was in no way close to the institutional budget disasters which dated
> >back to Laguardia. One out of four people in New York City were on
> >public support prior to his miracle on city government. I was victimized
> >by the previous ideas of city finance when school days were cut back
> >from 10AM – 2PM and class sizes swelled to 50 kids in a class room?
> >Did Rudy leave Blomberg with such an intolerable mess?
> >
> >Furthermore, you fail to mention that Rudy is an administrative genius.
> >Nobody of any of the current candidates is even remotely capable of
> >administrating government as the Mayor. His government was one of the
> >most open ones ever and his morning round table meetings which called
> >all levels of administration to account for itself in light of statical
> >facts, and which pressed for results is unheard of in current or previous
> >administrations. Up and down the entire hierarchy of Government, everyone
> >who worked for New York City knew they were being watched, judged and
> >being held accountable. None of the Democratic candidates could ever
> >say that. In fact, the Clinton administration was a free for all.
> >
> >In my opinion, the nation must have that kind of government going into the
> >next decade. And if a few political eggs need to be broken on the road
> >to regaining control of our foreign policy, our intelligence community
> >and the federal bureaucracy, so be it. I'd be happy to send them all
> >to the same place the Mafia went after it was drummed from the private
> >sanitation business in this town. And if there isn't enough room for
> >both the ego's of Rudy and Branton, so be it. Who cares.
> >
> >The Mayor made safe the nice new location of the NY Times billion dollar
> >building. So considering the fortune of money the Mayor's policies
> >and administration made possible for the paper and the Times family.
> >You would think they'd be a little more truthful. Or perhaps they would
> >prefer to go back to having crack adicts in their loading docks.
> >
> >One last point. While the Mayor was busy after 9-11 holding the city
> >and nation together, the Times executives were busy giving directives
> >to move their entire computer infrastructure outside of the “dead
> >zone” of New York City? What was the dead zone? The area around
> >New York where, if it was attacked by a nuclear weapon by a terrorist,
> >that the systems would be unaffected so that they could still publish.
> >The Times put its money on a bet the the city would be nuked. The Mayor
> >has done the opposite.
> >
> >
> >Ruben Safir
> >

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