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| DATE | 2009-02-03 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Projects
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From: Ruben Safir
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Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Projects
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On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 12:45:04PM -0500, Ronny Abraham wrote:
> Ah, well that's OK then. Thank you for clearing it all up.
>
> I guess I'll be able to start in two weeks, I need to read up on C++,
> and QT. Those seem like the best bet. GTK is prettier, but I get the
> impression that QT is a more tightly put together package.
>
> If anyone has a good book to recommend that covers QT and C++ at the
> same time, that would be perfect.
>
Great
It's your project. That means you lead the way and we get a report to
the NYLXS board at the next monthly meeting. I'm looking forward to
seeing a big success.
Now - who else has a project :)
Ruben
> -ron
>
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 06:21:25AM -0500, Ronny Abraham wrote:
> >> OK, I'm willing to play. But my problem is that certain of your
> >> positions, while reasonable, are incompatible with my own goals.
> >>
> >> I feel very strongly about making software available to everyone on
> >> whatever platform they like. If a developer decides to pop up and
> >> help me by porting a project I'm working on to, say, the SuperEvilOS,
> >> then I feel very strongly that he should be able to do so. I fully
> >> understand your reasoning to the contrary. But like I said, this is
> >> simply how I feel about it. That doesn't mean that I am going to
> >> invest the time to port it to every system. But if someone else wants
> >> to, then they can knock themselves out.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Let them knock themselves out. It's Free Software and they can take it
> > to do whatever they want.
> >
> >
> >> Now I am willing to accept not hosting source that is meant for a
> >> non-free OS. After all, your server, your rules.
> >
> > Ron - I don't own this server. I own a hard drive in it, one of three,
> > but Michael George gave NYLXS this server and you have an equal share of
> > it and I administer it, in theory at least, under the supervion of the
> > NYLXS board.
> >
> >> But I can't do it
> >> if someone else can't take that source and host his branch for a
> >> proprietary OS on another server. I understand how arrogant that
> >> sounds, I mean I'm only one guy, and who knows if this is a useless
> >> idea in any case. But that's just how I see things.
> >>
> >
> > Preventing the source from being downloaded is a violation of the GPL
> > so I don't seee why we would not make it publically available.
> >
> >> By the way, what kind of tools are you referring to?
> >
> > What tools do you want. We have SSH, C++, Mono, CVS, Apache, PHP,
> > Perl, Python, EMACS, VIM, personal webspace, C, ADA, Small Talk,
> > IRC clients, open access for members, mail, about 60Gigs of hard drive
> > space, mailing lists, Ruby, video hardware, audio hardware, GTK, Wings,
> > QT widget sets, DOCBOOK, TCL, TK, Java, EMBPERL, MODPERL, a 300 book
> > library, a 1.1 mb broadband connection, 4 unused monitors, a dozen ISO's
> > on the server, vidoes, audio resources, 30 gigs of documentaion, just about
> > anything your heart can delight in.
> >
> > We can organize and control the invasion of a medium sized country with
> > NYLXS resources.
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> >>
> >> -ron
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >> > On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 04:42:48AM -0500, Ronny Abraham wrote:
> >> >> Ah, OK, thank you for clarifying that.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >> >> > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:25:31PM -0500, Ronny Abraham wrote:
> >> >> >> Uh, I am starting to feel a bit uncomfortable. Are you saying that if
> >> >> >> I decide to create an free outliner program outside of NYLXS, I can't?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How would I have the authority to say that? I'm saying that if NYLXS is
> >> >> > doing this, then it is by NYLXS standards. If you want to do something
> >> >> > outside of NYLXS why are we having this conversation. This started with
> >> >> > Evan's call for more NYLXS projects.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ruben
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I understand your discomfort ron, but trust me, its not half as bad as
> >> > the pain of investing 100's of hours into projects to only have them
> >> > unravel because someone walks away with a significant portion of "our"
> >> > team effort.
> >> >
> >> > Aside from that, we pay almost 200 bucks a month to host this stuff, and
> >> > we have powerful tools...far more powerful than anything google can
> >> > offer. We should use them instead of wasting them in a
> >> > burst of the latest online traps.
> >> >
> >> > Ruben
> >> >
> >> >> >> -ron
> >> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
> >> > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >> >
> >> > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> >> >
> >> > http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> >> >
> >> > "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
> >> >
> >> > "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."
> >> >
> >> > "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
> >> > You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
> >> >
> >> > (c) Copyright for the Digital Millennium
> >> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
> > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >
> > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> >
> > http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> >
> > "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
> >
> > "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."
> >
> > "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
> > You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
> >
> > (c) Copyright for the Digital Millennium
> >
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http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."
"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
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