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DATE 2011-06-07
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: C++ File Lokcing
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On 6/7/2011 2:17 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:55:36 -0400, Victor Bazarov wrote:
>
>> On 6/7/2011 11:54 AM, ruben safir wrote:
>>> On 06/07/2011 02:33 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>>> "osmium" writes:
>>>>> "ruben safir" wrote:
>>>>>> Is there a C++ specific means of file locking?
>>>>> No. File locking is provided by the operating system, not an ordinary
>>>>> user
>>>>> program, which is what a C++ compiler produces.
>>>>
>>>> This must be the correct answer, because Linus Torvalds also says that
>>>> a C++ compiler cannot produce an operating system!
>>>>
>>>> (The real reason is - of coures - just that the C++ standard library
>>>> does not provide this feature, but this might change in the future.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have to do file locking on Linux. Do you have a recommendation?
>>
>> How about news:comp.os.linux.development.apps ?
>>
>> V
>
> But Victor, if you can't file lock with posix file locking, then there is
> almost no use of ios_base for file systems. You have to lock files on a
> multiuser OS before you write to them. Can you get the file descriptor
> from ofsream or can you feed flock()?

But Ruben, there is no such thing in C++ as "file descriptor". POSIX
and C++ are orthogonal, not part of each other. On some systems there
*may* be a way to get something from 'std::ios_base' other than what the
Standard specifies, but it's *not* specified by the Standard, and that's
why you need to *ask elsewhere*. Can you not see that?

V
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  101. 2011-06-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, Python) Tuesday June 21 6:00PM-8:00PM
  102. 2011-06-21 redpill <redpill-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Antony Weiner
  103. 2011-06-22 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] My Mother says,
  104. 2011-06-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop
  105. 2011-06-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) C++ file locking
  106. 2011-06-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: C++ file locking
  107. 2011-06-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: C++ file locking
  108. 2011-06-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: C++ file locking
  109. 2011-06-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: C++ file locking
  110. 2011-06-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: C++ file locking
  111. 2011-06-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) C++ iosteams and ncurses
  112. 2011-06-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) US-NY: New York-Applications Support Analyst
  113. 2011-06-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) US-NY: New York-Applications Support Analyst
  114. 2011-06-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) US-NJ: Jersey City-Unix Security Technical Writer
  115. 2011-06-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) US-NY: Manhattan-Senior Technical Writer
  116. 2011-06-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) US-NY: Brooklyn-Sr Pipeline Corrosion Surveyor

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