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MESSAGE
DATE 2011-06-11
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Using sizeof in the preprocessor
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From: Johannes Schaub
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Johannes Schaub wrote:

> I have this code in my pet project
>
> #if sizeof -1 > 4
> #error "This doesn't work on 64bit"
> #endif
>
> My friend was telling me that this shouldn't work because "sizeof is not
> evaluated in the preprocessor". Yet the compiler accepts it and my program
> works.
>
> Can anybody please explain this? Is it a compiler bug? Thanks to all!

I want to emphasize that I do *not* intent to troll. I wanted to raise a
common issue and put people in alert mode when they see such code and don't
get a compiler error.

See http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/752965#752965 and the
following rage of "FredNurk" for the discussion and why I need to defend
this question like that.

-- end of forwarded message --

  1. 2011-06-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [svlug] Probable spamhaus domain: apotmail.com]
  2. 2011-06-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop
  3. 2011-06-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] job fair
  4. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [grc-at-cse.iitb.ac.in: Workshop on Essential Abstractions in GCC]
  5. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ iostream linking
  6. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache API and C++
  7. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Anonymous namespace
  8. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  9. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  10. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  11. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  12. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  13. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  14. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  15. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  16. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  17. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  18. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  19. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  20. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  21. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  22. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  23. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  24. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  25. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  26. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  27. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  28. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  29. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  30. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  31. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  32. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  33. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  34. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  35. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  36. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  37. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  38. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  39. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  40. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  41. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: Anonymous namespace
  42. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) basic_ostream question
  43. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: basic_ostream question
  44. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: basic_ostream question
  45. 2011-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: basic_ostream question
  46. 2011-06-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Antony Weiner
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  89. 2011-06-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] This is what makes Linux great
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  95. 2011-06-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop
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  100. 2011-06-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop quiz program
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