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DATE | 2020-01-28 |
FROM | Jean Louis
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Feedback on the GNU Social contract and new
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Jan 28 21:59:41 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB058161132; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:59:37 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94042161132 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486p9K3xXTz1f0F for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by panix2.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20529) id 486p9K2yNBz1ZWC; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:59:17 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:59:17 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20200129025917.GB4347-at-panix.com> Resent-To: NYLXS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.3 (2019-12-06) on mailcrunch3.panix.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.3 X-Spam-Relay-Country: US ** XX NO UG ** X-Original-To: mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Delivered-To: mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486cRg2c4pz1Cv1 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 486cRg2CJtzwrG for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:36610 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iwWjM-0003mY-Rz for mrbrklyn-at-panix.com; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:41:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45257) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iwWKv-0005sZ-UI for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:15:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iwWKt-0000pc-H7 for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:15:44 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:40465) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iwWKt-0000nt-91 for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:15:43 -0500 Received: from protected.rcdrun.com ([::ffff:41.210.146.202]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1) by stw1.rcdrun.com with UTF8ESMTPSA id 000000000009DB57.000000005E30885C.000019CE; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 12:15:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1001) by protected.rcdrun.com with local id 00000000000C0FB9.000000005E308858.00007888; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 20:15:36 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 20:15:36 +0100 From: Jean Louis To: Carlos O'Donell Message-ID: <20200128191536.GA30642-at-protected.rcdrun.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 217.170.207.13 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:39:02 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Feedback on the GNU Social contract and new wiki.gnu.tools. X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
* Carlos O'Donell [2020-01-28 16:56]: > Myself and several other GNU Maintainers have been publicly discussing > a GNU Social contract on gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org and what it means to > be a GNU Project volunteer.
> We are continuing that discussion by reaching out (by email) to all > GNU Maintainers. We look forward to your feedback! Please have a look > at the email you get since it has some important dates.
What you are doing, in practical, you wish to destroy the GNU project by diverting attention of helpers, assistants, maintainers to your negative energy and animosity in the group where you are in. I am sorry for you.
I do think, you should make your own group or do something else, please don't attack GNU, anyway it is useless. I can feel your envy and your hatred. I do think you have better things to do in life, then destroying the GNU project apart.
> To assist in this discussion we have created a new wiki for use by GNU > Maintainers. > > https://wiki.gnu.tools
I see that as bad and naive attempt to destroy the agreements that GNU maintainers have with the GNU project. Just because you can register domain, it does not mean anything. You are practically inviting people in GNU project to split from GNU project. Obviously that is not endorsed by GNU project, and is not part of GNU project. You should not misrepresent the GNU project.
Again -- you do what you wish to do, but don't you have something better to do in life?
At least some people find themselves girlfriends, boyfriends, they get busy, some others are programming, some are writing books, even walking, hiking can be pleasant activity, making food, there is plethora of valuable activities.
I do have gnu.support domain and it is for support to people installing GNU software, and it states there explicitly that it is not part of GNU project, and not endorsed -- and I am providing links to all of the FSF endorsed free operating system distributions and to some other official GNU links.
> The wiki is designed to meet the needs of GNU Maintainers who have > asked for a wiki. Given the feedback it is git based with markdown > support, and is an actively maintained wiki that is free software with > good internationalization. > > Thank you for your support in making a positive change in the GNU > Project.
Sorry Carlos, your contributions are welcome. I am sorry for you and your feelings, and I do not know how you got into this and why are you in that position to want to split the GNU project, but I am somehow not believing that anybody from GNU project made you suffer, or that you can blame anybody in GNU project for your personal drama.
Again -- I am inviting you to look into other valuable activities that may contribute to pleasure and joy in life. Something constructive.
-- Thanks, Jean Louis
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