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DATE | 2020-01-30 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] You might find this to be of interest
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Thu Jan 30 11:54:20 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CA816113A; Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:54:19 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 166AA161134; Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:54:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:54:15 -0500 From: Ruben Safir To: baruchd Message-ID: <20200130165415.GA9614-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] You might find this to be of interest X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:27:14AM -0500, baruchd wrote: > http://nautil.us/issue/81/maps/an-existential-crisis-in-neuroscience?utm_= source=3Dpocket-newtab s-in-neuroscience?utm_source=3Dpocket-newtab>
This is a major read that requires a serious sit down. Facinating philosophical intergotive from scientific research.
The key line: =E2=80=9CAnd maybe there=E2=80=99s something fundamental about that idea: t= hat no machine can have an output more sophisticated than itself,=E2=80=9D Lichtman said. =E2=80=9CWhat a car does is trivial compared to its engineering. What= a human brain does is trivial compared to its engineering. Which is the great irony here. We have this false belief there=E2=80=99s nothing in the universe that humans can=E2=80=99t understand because we have infinite intelligence. But if I asked you if your dog can understand something you=E2=80=99d say, =E2=80=98Well, my dog=E2=80=99s brain is small.=E2=80=99= Well, your brain is only a little bigger,=E2=80=9D he continued, chuckling. =E2=80=9CWhy, suddenly, ar= e you able to understand everything?=E2=80=9D
There is a fundemental flaw in this statement though. It runs amock with the Turing Principle which says, all computational systems are fundemenally equal. OTOH, I always say that our brains are only slight bit more efficent than a monkey or even a mouse. But it is enough to reach the tipping point where humans can create culture and through culture, process logic. We use our brains for much more than it was designed for and hence all the mental illness.
Ruben
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