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| DATE | 2020-01-30 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] You might find this to be of interest
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On 1/30/20 2:08 PM, baruchd wrote:
> There is an observation that the brain as a filter of extraneous informat=
ion is one the chief functions the brain. When one considers the enormous a=
mount of impulses the brain receives every moment, then a filter that exclu=
des the irrelevant is critical to normal functioning. There is another cons=
ideration; namely, that our brain is capable of much more than is commonly =
considered or utilized. The uncanny mental feats of idiot savants screams f=
or a new paradigm of what is a human being. Darwin dominated thinking stifl=
es the possibility of achieving such a paradigm.
> =
good!
here is the vidoe I ment, not the other one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D2DIl3Hfh9tY
>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:27:14AM -0500, baruchd wrote:
>>> http://nautil.us/issue/81/maps/an-existential-crisis-in-neuroscience?ut=
m_source=3Dpocket-newtab sis-in-neuroscience?utm_source=3Dpocket-newtab>
>>
>>
>> This is a major read that requires a serious sit down. Facinating
>> philosophical intergotive from scientific research.
>>
>> The key line:
>> =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93And maybe there=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s something =
fundamental about that idea: that no
>> machine can have an output more sophisticated than itself,=C3=A2=E2=82=
=AC=C2=9D Lichtman
>> said. =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93What a car does is trivial compared to its en=
gineering. What a
>> human brain does is trivial compared to its engineering. Which is the
>> great irony here. We have this false belief there=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=
=A2s nothing in the
>> universe that humans can=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t understand because we =
have infinite
>> intelligence. But if I asked you if your dog can understand something
>> you=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2d say, =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=CB=9CWell, my dog=C3=
=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s brain is small.=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2 Well, your b=
rain is only a
>> little bigger,=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C2=9D he continued, chuckling. =C3=A2=E2=
=82=AC=C5=93Why, suddenly, are you able to
>> understand everything?=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C2=9D
>>
>>
>> There is a fundemental flaw in this statement though. It runs amock
>> with the Turing Principle which says, all computational systems are
>> fundemenally equal. OTOH, I always say that our brains are only slight
>> bit more efficent than a monkey or even a mouse. But it is enough to
>> reach the tipping point where humans can create culture and through
>> culture, process logic. We use our brains for much more than it was
>> designed for and hence all the mental illness.
>>
>> Ruben
>>
>> -- =
>> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
>> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
>> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>> http://www.mrbrklyn.com =
>>
>> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
>> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive =
>> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
>> http://www.brooklyn-living.com =
>>
>> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, =
>> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>>
-- =
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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