|FROM ||Elle Stone
|SUBJECT ||Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
|On 9/5/20 10:27 AM, Elle Stone wrote:
> Hi Kenny,
> In case Alex's suggestion to activate the legacy theme doesn't actually
> fix enough of the differences between "new gimp" and "old gimp", another
> possibility might be to install VirtualBox in your newest version of
> Mint, and then install in a virtual machine the last version of Mint
> that will install and run GIMP 2.8.
Two more possibilities for getting an older version of GIMP to run on
* Try an appimage for GIMP-2.9 - the older the appimage, the closer it
is to being more like GIMP-2.8. I used GIMP 2.9 since just about the
beginning of its existence and it always ran just fine, very stable.
Here's a link - scroll down to the files with "2.99" in the file name:
Here's a link for asking about possibly older versions of GIMP-2.9
* If GIMP for Windows runs on WINE (anyone know?), then try installing
WINE and download an older precompiled version of GIMP for Windows. Just
make sure the download site is reliable as many distributors of GIMP for
Windows just want to distribute malware. "Partha's Place" is good place
to download Windows versions of GIMP - scroll down on the right side,
two versions of 2.8 are available:
> Maybe you've already considered using a virtual machine, but if not,
> VirtualBox does allow to open/export/save files back and forth between
> the virtual machine's and real machine's hard drives. Once everything is
> running properly, make a backup copy of the virtual machine
> configuration files and especially the VDI (virtual disk image) in case
> the one you use every day somehow gets corrupted.
> VirtualBox can be set up to run seamlessly inside the host Linux
> installation. I haven't used VirtualBox in several years, but back when
> I did use it regularly, it worked flawlessly to allow running an old
> operating system and software. I transferred that virtual machine
> through quite a few hardware and operating system changes, and it always
> worked like a charm.
> I did find a pre-made, downloadable virtual machine for Mint 19:
> Maybe somewhere there is a pre-made image for Mint 18 if Mint 19 won't
> work. But if you can install an operating system on bare metal,
> installing the same operating system in a virtual machine involves just
> about the exact same procedure - the difficult part is setting
> everything up to get to the point of actually being able to start
> installing the selected operating system.
> Fortunately the VirtualBox forums are pretty good, or at least they used
> to be. Also there used to be (and probably still are) a lot of "how
> to's" on the internet, but at least in the past the "how to's" were
> outdated almost as soon as they were written as VirtualBox itself was
> changing rapidly. So it's necessary to make sure the "how to" applies to
> the more recent versions of VirtualBox.
> Probably the Mint forums could help, and the Arch Linux documentation
> always seem to have good, up-to-date "how tos" that often apply to other
> versions of Linux.
> Best regards,
> On 9/4/20 8:01 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote:
>> But Kenny,
>> You do not have to go back to 2.8 to get back the old user interface.
>> 'Edit > Preferences > Interface > Theme / Icon Theme' will give you
>> legacy options.
>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 2:46 AM Kenny Mann
>>> I don't have the skills to compile GIMP from
>>> The new interface in GIMP 2.10 is a problem somewhat unique to me. I
>>> have a neurological disorder. Navigating anything -- walking to the
>>> grocery store and back, traveling by trains, buses, airplanes,
>>> sometimes even finding the kitchen in my house -- is dependent on
>>> life-long-learned tricks that are based in objective visible
>>> familiarity. This neural disorder is worsening.
>>> After using Photoshop since v. 2.2, I've been using GIMP 2.8 in Linux
>>> Mint 17 and 18 for years. I work in GIMP 2.8 for hours every day.
>>> Samples: No prob.
>>> The threshold for gaining use of GIMP 2.10 would take unknown weeks
>>> of mostly failure, due to the lack of neural mapping I have for the
>>> interface. Read: It looks only similar to anyplace I've ever been and
>>> it's a place I have no readable map for. To me, the (neural) map has
>>> blots that most people will easily read in the GIMP 2.10 interface as
>>> easily recognizable information.
>>> The app manager in Mint 20 will only install GIMP 2.10 -- and
>>> has only a button for a flatpack of
>>> GIMP 2.10
>>> GIMP 2.8 is available to install from the app manager in Mint 18.
>>> For now, I can boot a drive that's fully set up in Mint 18 with GIMP
>>> 2.8. I can use that for as long as it hasn't gotten corrupted on my
>>> computer. I can do a fresh install of Mint 18 for as long as that
>>> version is supported. I'd like to get ahead on having a fresh OS
>>> install. Becoming cognizant of GIMP 2.10 would be a big delay. At my
>>> age, that's real iffy.
>>> I've been doing okay with Mint 20 -- having spent weeks making the
>>> Cinnamon version appear as much like Mint 18 Cinnamon as possible.
>>> Which will hold on longer -- Mint 18/GIMP 2.8 or me? Should I spend
>>> that time mapping-out a new territory or do I get to keep working
>>> along the road that has what I need to recognize where I am?
>>> Legacy is something that app developers have a long harsh history of
>>> overlooking. (Among others, I once worked closely with Apple Newton
>>> developers, for instance. May Steve rest in peace.) Viable
>>> available legacy is important. We're all legacy, sooner or later.
>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 3:03 PM Alexandre Prokoudine
>>>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 1:00 AM Kenny Mann wrote:
>>>>> Why is GIMP 2.8.16 not available?
>>>> Source code:
>>>> We are not under any kind of obligation to provide direct links to
>>>> obsolete releases from the main downloads page.
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