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DATE 2020-09-27
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Creating a Permanent AI controlled Survailence
wsj.com
How South Korea Successfully Managed Coronavirus
Timothy W. Martin and Dasl Yoon
17-22 minutes

SEOUL—South Korea appears to have cracked the code for managing the
coronavirus. Its solution is straightforward, flexible and relatively
easy to replicate.

The country has averaged about 77 new daily cases since early April and
recently suppressed a spike in infections. Adjusting for population,
that would be the equivalent of about 480 cases a day in the U.S., where
new daily cases have averaged about 38,000 over the same period. Total
deaths in the U.S. due to Covid-19 just surpassed 200,000.

South Korea halted virus transmission better than any other wealthy
country during the pandemic’s early months. It was about twice as
effective as the U.S. and U.K. at preventing infected individuals from
spreading the disease to others, according to a recent report from a
United Nations-affiliated research network. South Korea’s economy is
expected to decline by just 0.8% this year, the best among the
Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development’s forecasts for
member nations.

The key to South Korea’s success came from blending technology and
testing like no other country, centralized control and communication—and
a constant fear of failure.

Seoul on April 24. South Korea never had to mandate a lockdown.
Photo: SeongJoon Cho/Bloomberg News

The nation fast-tracked approval of domestic testing kits as soon as
cases began hitting. It tapped into its relative wealth and
hyperconnectivity, blasting text alerts to citizens if infections
occurred in their area. When the supply of face masks ran short early on
in the crisis, the government seized production.

At twice-a-day briefings, health officials express worry when they can
only trace the origins of three-quarters of confirmed cases. Virus
experts stand at the podium of government briefings and frequently warn
of looming catastrophe. Nearly everyone in the country wears masks.
Every confirmed patient, even those with no or mild symptoms, gets
isolated at hospitals or converted dormitories run by the government.
Treatment is free.

As a result, South Korea never had to mandate a lockdown, so restaurants
and business were able to stay open, cushioning the blow to the economy.

“No country has adapted to living with, and containing, the virus like
South Korea,” said Dale Fisher , chairman of the World Health
Organization’s global outbreak alert and response network. “You don’t
need or want to eradicate the virus. But you modify your behavior and
get on with life.”

Downtown Seoul on June 26.
Photo: Jean Chung for The Wall Street Journal

Some parts of its playbook wouldn’t work in most Western societies—and
received backlash in South Korea as well. Health officials have
unfettered access to individuals’ private mobile data, and early on used
government websites to share the whereabouts of confirmed patients,
plucked from smartphone GPS history. The disclosures didn’t include
individuals’ names, but they typically contained details such as gender,
age and workplace that could identify a patient.
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Local religious and civic groups have criticized South Korea’s methods
as civil-rights violations and filed lawsuits. The government now offers
anonymous testing and leaves out identifying information and specific
names of places visited in contact-tracing disclosures.

South Korea, roughly the geographic size of Indiana, was initially
blitzed in February with the largest Covid-19 outbreak outside of China.
After a major cluster linked to a megachurch in the city of Daegu
emerged on Feb. 18, the government made a flurry of moves and pressed
residents to wear face masks and maintain social distancing. Cases
peaked in 11 days.

“We were on the front lines,” said Kwon Jun-wook, deputy director of
South Korea’s Disease Control and Prevention Agency. “In the past, we
had treated the regulations from the World Health Organization and the
U.S. as the Bible. But I had to apologize to our citizens because it was
time for us to create our own regulations based on our own evidence.”

Infections stayed low through most of the summer. South Korea’s approach
was put to another test in August, when infections rose again, centered
on cases again linked to a large church.

The day after cases reached a five-month high of 441 on Aug. 27, South
Korea’s top public-health official gave a grim forecast: “We could see
800 to 2,000 infections next week,” said Jung Eun-kyeong , who cut her
hair short to save herself time getting ready in the morning during the
pandemic.

South Koreans took the advice and adjusted. Population mobility, as
measured by local telecom operators, soon fell by one-quarter. Most
schools closed and diners had to leave restaurants by 9 p.m. Aug. 27
turned out to be the peak. After two weeks of aggressive social
distancing, South Koreans could again head back to schools, gyms and
sports stadiums.

Feb.MarchAprilMayJuneJulyAug.Sep.010,00020,00030,00040,00050,00060,00070,000South
KoreaU.S.Spain

Japan
Daily cases

South Korea has kept coronavirus infections relatively low compared with
other countries.
Flattening the curve

Within three weeks of its first wave of cases, the country flattened the
curve through aggressive testing and contact tracing. Strict
social-distancing measures beat back another wave in August.
Aggressive testing

South Korea's testing capacity is now beyond 50,000 a day, with results
within 24 hours. Vulnerable sites such as nursing homes are tested, as
well as randomly selected students at schools to see if the virus is
circulating.

Note: Trend lines show seven-day rolling average.

Sources: South Korea's Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (South
Korea tests, cases); John Hopkins University (cases)

Vivien Ngo

Daily cases have since fallen to about 100, a manageable level for the
country’s health system, officials say.

In total, South Korea, with a population of 52 million, has reported
23,455 cases and 395 deaths.
Hard lessons

One reason South Korea was prepared: It learned painful lessons in 2015
from an outbreak of Middle East respiratory syndrome. Its missteps with
that coronavirus strain resemble struggles seen elsewhere today, with
poor communication, an unclear and shifting national strategy and
testing backlogs. The outbreak resulted in 186 infections, including 38
deaths.

“The only way to make the government prepared is to actually have an
outbreak,” said Oh Myoung-don, head of South Korea’s central clinical
committee for emerging disease control.

After MERS, the government started twice-a-year training sessions
simulating a rapid spread of viral diseases like Ebola or influenza. On
Dec. 17, 2019, inside a glistening new facility resembling a NASA
space-launch command center, dozens of government officials and outside
medical experts gathered together.

“Oddly enough, last December’s ‘war game’ was a novel coronavirus,” said
Mr. Kwon of the KDCA. The simulation featured a South Korean family,
traveling back from China, suffering from an unknown pneumonia.

A health-care worker in Seoul cared for a MERS patient in 2015.
Photo: Chung Sung-Jun/Getty Images

It was late December by the time South Korean officials began hearing
that may be more than a hypothetical threat. After China published the
coronavirus’s DNA on Jan. 10, South Korean officials began discussing
its testing strategy.

It detected the country’s first case 10 days later using a test that
screened for all known coronavirus strains—the same tactic practiced
during the December simulation.

A week later, on Jan. 27, the South Korean health officials convened
experts and test-kit companies at a conference room inside Seoul
Station, an easy central location for experts strewn across the country.
They got an early surprise. Two South Korean firms had already begun
developing their own tests.

“We promise a fast approval,” said one South Korean health official at
the time, saying the government would buy unused supply if the outbreak
never reached a significant size.

One firm, Kogene Biotech Co., demonstrated a successful test and got the
regulatory green light within four days. A second manufacturer would be
added by Feb. 12. The tests all used the same methodology and could be
sent to any of the country’s roughly 120 laboratories that promised
turnaround times of between six to 24 hours.

Then nothing happened. By the middle of February, the country had
reported no new infections for six straight days. Things seemed so
stable that South Korean President Moon Jae-in turned his focus to the
economy, summoning the country’s top business leaders for a meeting
where none of the attendees wore a face mask. The coronavirus, Mr. Moon
said, “will be terminated before too long.”

“We thought we were managing the situation well,” said Ki Moran, a
professor at the National Cancer Center who is advising the South Korean
government on its Covid-19 response. “But everything changed with
Patient 31.”
Outbreak

The churchgoing patient No. 31, who had not traveled abroad in recent
weeks, was confirmed on Feb. 18. She had twice rejected offers of a
coronavirus test after exhibiting pneumonialike symptoms, and was tested
only after leaving the hospital. She had recently been to a buffet
restaurant and two cramped Sunday services attended by more than 1,000
others each time.
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Cases, which had been slowly rising, suddenly doubled in a day, to over
100. Experts predicted it would soon surge to levels seen nowhere else
but China.

That triggered a Feb. 20 late-night message in a group chat with eight
South Korean infectious-disease experts: “We need to quickly devise a
way to conduct mass testing,” one doctor wrote.

Kim Jin-yong , who had treated the country’s first coronavirus patient
weeks before, believed he had an answer: drive-through clinics.

Dr. Kim sent a PowerPoint presentation to the group within hours, at
3:53 a.m., outlining how tests would take just 10 minutes and saved
much-needed protective gear since outdoor workers didn’t have to change
gowns after each patient. He marked each slide with a car emoji.

Two days later, cars rumbled through the country’s first drive-through
clinic. Testing capacity multiplied 100 times, giving South Korea a
critical early edge.

A drive-through clinic for coronavirus tests in Daegu, Feb. 27.
Photo: Yonhap/Reuters

The acceleration of cases created other problems. Hospital staff quit,
fearing for their health. Supplies ran low. Tensions ran high as experts
in the relative safety of Seoul implored counterparts in Daegu, where
most of South Korea’s cases were then concentrated, to quarantine
individuals and find alternative facilities for patients with mild or no
symptoms.

South Korea, at the urging of nearly a dozen medical societies, raised
its infectious disease alert system to its highest level on Feb. 23.

As South Korea’s coronavirus problems mounted, Mr. Moon intentionally
kept his profile low. “His stance is that it’s more objective for an
expert to hold the briefings, and that is the way to gain the trust of
the people,” said Noh Young-min, Mr. Moon’s chief of staff, who led the
presidential Blue House’s coronavirus team.

Even with the swift response, a lack of hospital beds became a major
issue. In just 11 days, South Korea’s case count had gone from 31 to
3,150. Thousands were waiting to be hospitalized. A handful died while
waiting.

South Korea’s infectious-disease experts had a proposal. Confirmed
patients should be divided into four categories, based on the risk
profile and severity of symptoms, with only the most serious cases
hospitalized. Those with mild or no symptoms should be isolated at
makeshift treatment facilities.

The recommendation contradicted the country’s treatment guidelines to
hospitalize all confirmed cases in medical facilities. There was another
problem. No one had secured any nonmedical facilities yet.
Connections

This was the challenge facing Peck Kyong-ran, chairwoman of the Korean
Society of Infectious Diseases, who advises the government. Like a lot
of South Korean government advisers, Dr. Peck is also a practicing
physician, employed by Samsung Medical Center.

With that tie to the country’s largest business conglomerate, Dr. Peck
set up a meeting with senior officials from the Samsung conglomerate,
asking that an empty facility near Daegu be lent to the South Korean
government. By first having a company volunteer a venue, Dr. Peck
recalled thinking, it would pressure South Korea’s health ministry to act.

Her message to the Samsung officials was direct. “ LG will come forward
eventually,” Dr. Peck said. “Don’t you want to be the first?”

Samsung eventually agreed, as did the South Korean government, which the
next day approved the “community treatment center” plan and amended the
guidelines. Eventually, LG, Hyundai and other South Korean firms
volunteered corporate dormitories for the Covid-19 response.

About 80% of South Korea’s coronavirus patients have been hospitalized
in the community treatment centers. Those who are asymptomatic or have
mild symptoms are still sent there.

Employees of Daegu City Hall walked though a heat detector in February.
Photo: Jean Chung for The Wall Street Journal

Throughout March, South Korea’s infections started trending downward.
April ended with fewer cases for the month than its one-day peak. By
early May, South Korea began exploring ways to relax social-distancing
measures that had banned protests, religious gatherings and closed
schools in favor of online classes.

Throughout most of the summer, cases only exceeded 100 daily cases once.

That changed in August. Unlike February’s outbreak, the new wave of
infections fanned out across South Korea to all 15 of the country’s
major cities and provinces. The country’s national testing capacity had
by then expanded to 50,000 a day with test results notified within 24
hours, up from 20,000 in February, said Lee Hyuk-min, who advises South
Korea’s Covid-19 response on testing.

The U.S. conducted about 900,000 tests a day over the past week through
Thursday, according to data from the Covid Tracking Project. But South
Korea performs six times as many tests per confirmed Covid-19 case than
the U.S. does, according to Our World in Data, a nonprofit research
project based at the University of Oxford.

South Korea’s three-tier system created in June for social distancing
went off script. With health experts split on whether to adopt the
maximum levels last month, a government advisory committee landed at a
“level 2.5” social-distancing for the Seoul area that closed schools and
banned church services and gatherings of more than 10 people.

On Tuesday, South Korea reported its lowest one-day infections in over a
month, with just 61 cases.

—Illustration by Jessica Kuronen/WSJ

Write to Timothy W. Martin at timothy.martin-at-wsj.com and Dasl Yoon at
dasl.yoon-at-wsj.com
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  46. 2020-09-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] All Hell is going to break out now...
  47. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  48. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  49. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  50. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  51. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] artix-general Digest, Vol 19,
  52. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  53. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] artix-general Digest, Vol 19,
  54. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  55. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  56. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  57. 2020-09-19 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  58. 2020-09-20 charliebrownau via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] artix-general Digest, Vol 19,
  59. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  60. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  61. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  62. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  63. 2020-09-15 artist via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Fixes to connman-openrc
  64. 2020-09-15 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Fixes to connman-openrc
  65. 2020-09-15 Yunxiang Li via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Fixes to connman-openrc
  66. 2020-09-06 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] S6 not starting default
  67. 2020-09-06 Jacob Moody via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] S6 not starting default
  68. 2020-09-05 Jacob Moody via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] S6 not starting default bundle on
  69. 2020-09-19 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  70. 2020-09-19 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  71. 2020-09-19 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting laptop
  72. 2020-09-03 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] pandoc-crossref-bin missing in
  73. 2020-09-03 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] pandoc-crossref missing in galaxy?
  74. 2020-09-02 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] reboot errors after update
  75. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  76. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  77. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] artix-general Digest, Vol 19,
  78. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  79. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  80. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  81. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  82. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  83. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  84. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  85. 2020-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] EU never mises a chance to screw with the Jews
  86. 2020-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] secondary DNS servers
  87. 2020-09-20 Akash Rao via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] blured text on PDF-export
  88. 2020-09-20 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] blured text on PDF-export
  89. 2020-09-18 Kenny Mann via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
  90. 2020-09-20 Alex via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] blured text on PDF-export
  91. 2020-09-07 Kenny Mann via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
  92. 2020-09-07 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Is it possible to run GIMP 2.8.10
  93. 2020-09-06 Nicholas Saunders via ekiga-list <ekiga-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Ekiga-list] sip address
  94. 2020-09-07 Eugen Dedu <eugen.dedu-at-univ-fcomte.fr> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: sip address
  95. 2020-09-17 Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
  96. 2020-09-17 From: =?utf-8?q?Jehan_Pag=C3=A8s_via_gimp-user-list?= Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
  97. 2020-09-05 Mark Sandridge via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Unintended post
  98. 2020-09-04 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
  99. 2020-09-04 Kenny Mann via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
  100. 2020-09-04 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
  101. 2020-09-04 Kenny Mann via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
  102. 2020-09-04 Michael Schumacher <schumaml-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
  103. 2020-09-04 Techno <techno6-at-glib.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Issues with text along path
  104. 2020-09-05 Akash Rao via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Unintended post
  105. 2020-09-04 Akash Rao via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Issues with text along path
  106. 2020-09-04 Techno <techno6-at-glib.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Issues with text along path
  107. 2020-09-05 Elle Stone <ellestone-at-ninedegreesbelow.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
  108. 2020-09-05 Elle Stone <ellestone-at-ninedegreesbelow.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
  109. 2020-09-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why Vaccines Are Essential to Herd Immunity
  110. 2020-09-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] What It Would Take for Herd Immunity to Stop the
  111. 2020-09-21 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #478 - Blogging for Perl?
  112. 2020-09-21 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #478 - Blogging for Perl?
  113. 2020-09-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] need a job?
  114. 2020-09-21 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Learn_Data_and_AI_with_O=27Re?=
  115. 2020-09-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] NYLXS Library
  116. 2020-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Running on the record
  117. 2020-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] US Supreme Court and Elections
  118. 2020-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] waiting for a change of party for the Chinese
  119. 2020-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] and just as a reminder of who we are dealing with
  120. 2020-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] NYC targeting Jewish neighborhoods for extra
  121. 2020-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] NYC targeting Jewish neighborhoods for extra
  122. 2020-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] NYC targeting Jewish neighborhoods for extra
  123. 2020-09-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] good news on vaccines
  124. 2020-09-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] isp immunity under threat...
  125. 2020-09-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] isp immunity under threat...
  126. 2020-09-23 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  127. 2020-09-23 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  128. 2020-09-23 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  129. 2020-09-23 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  130. 2020-09-23 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  131. 2020-09-23 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  132. 2020-09-20 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] secondary DNS servers
  133. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  134. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  135. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  136. 2020-09-23 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  137. 2020-09-23 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  138. 2020-09-23 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  139. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] artix-general Digest, Vol 19,
  140. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  141. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  142. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  143. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  144. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  145. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  146. 2020-09-20 charliebrownau via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] artix-general Digest, Vol 19,
  147. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  148. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  149. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  150. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  151. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  152. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  153. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  154. 2020-09-19 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  155. 2020-09-19 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  156. 2020-09-19 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  157. 2020-09-23 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  158. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  159. 2020-09-19 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting laptop
  160. 2020-09-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  161. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] artix-general Digest, Vol 19,
  162. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsa failing on boot for
  163. 2020-09-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] artix-general Digest, Vol 19,
  164. 2020-09-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New Wrinkle on the shooting war over policing
  165. 2020-09-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The face of the new Europe
  166. 2020-09-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] what peace talks?
  167. 2020-09-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chinese Military Agression
  168. 2020-09-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] War on the Jews taking a real uptake
  169. 2020-09-24 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  170. 2020-09-24 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  171. 2020-09-24 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  172. 2020-09-24 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  173. 2020-09-16 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cache a object in modperl [EXT]
  174. 2020-09-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Build failure
  175. 2020-09-14 From: "Patrick Mevzek" <pat-at-patoche.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cache a object in modperl
  176. 2020-09-14 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cache a object in modperl
  177. 2020-09-14 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cache a object in modperl
  178. 2020-09-14 Wesley Peng <wpeng-at-pobox.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cache a object in modperl
  179. 2020-09-14 Wesley Peng <wpeng-at-pobox.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cache a object in modperl
  180. 2020-09-14 Wesley Peng <wpeng-at-pobox.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cache a object in modperl
  181. 2020-09-14 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cache a object in modperl
  182. 2020-09-13 Wesley Peng <wpeng-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] cache a object in modperl
  183. 2020-09-14 Adam Prime <adam.prime-at-utoronto.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cache a object in modperl
  184. 2020-09-14 Adam Prime <adam.prime-at-utoronto.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cache a object in modperl
  185. 2020-09-14 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cache a object in modperl
  186. 2020-09-08 From: "Edward J. Sabol" <edwardjsabol-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Apache2::Cookie and SameSite
  187. 2020-09-11 Emerson Gomes <emerson.gomes-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Build failure
  188. 2020-09-07 Andrew Green <andrew-at-article7.co.uk> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Apache2::Cookie and SameSite
  189. 2020-09-24 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  190. 2020-09-24 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  191. 2020-09-24 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  192. 2020-09-24 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  193. 2020-09-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] mutation into a superbug and Faucci
  194. 2020-09-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] California making gas powered cars illegal
  195. 2020-09-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Looks like the second wave is starting
  196. 2020-09-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Central - Boro Park
  197. 2020-09-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Who is our trading partner in China?
  198. 2020-09-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Charlie Hebdo
  199. 2020-09-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Daniel Pearl trial in Pakistan
  200. 2020-09-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Creating a Permanent AI controlled Survailence
  201. 2020-09-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Permentent Take over of Streets by resturants in
  202. 2020-09-27 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Looks like the second wave is
  203. 2020-09-27 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Looks like the second wave is
  204. 2020-09-27 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Looks like the second wave is
  205. 2020-09-27 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  206. 2020-09-27 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  207. 2020-09-27 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  208. 2020-09-27 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  209. 2020-09-28 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #479 - Muhammad and the mountain
  210. 2020-09-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Control of Digital medical devices...
  211. 2020-09-29 NYOUG <execdir-at-nyoug.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Upcoming Events for Oracle Professionals
  212. 2020-09-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] collecting your information for you own good -
  213. 2020-09-30 From: "Liam R. E. Quin" <liam-at-fromoldbooks.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Orientations, Copyright Notices,
  214. 2020-09-30 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Orientations, Copyright Notices,
  215. 2020-09-30 From: =?UTF-8?B?w5h5dmluZCBLb2zDpXM=?= <pippin-at-gimp.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Orientations, Copyright Notices,
  216. 2020-09-30 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  217. 2020-09-30 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not booting/rebooting
  218. 2020-09-30 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [Artix] [RFC] s6-dns and
  219. 2020-09-30 Jacob Moody via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [Artix] [RFC] s6-dns and
  220. 2020-09-30 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [Artix] [RFC] s6-dns and
  221. 2020-09-30 cromer--- via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [Artix] [RFC] s6-dns and
  222. 2020-09-30 Jacob Moody via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [Artix] [RFC] s6-dns and
  223. 2020-09-24 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Running on the record
  224. 2020-09-22 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] NYC targeting Jewish neighborhoods for extra
  225. 2020-09-22 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Running on the record

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