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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 07:34:54 -0600
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mod_perl is horribly inefficient because prefork is inefficient and because
each request is single threaded. In addition to this, mod_perl also cannot
provide websockets which are essential in a modern application.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 1:26 AM Vincent Veyron wrote:
>
> [You forgot to cc the list ]
>
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 23:16:03 -0500
> John Dunlap wrote:
>
> > We run 20 customers on a single box and our database has approximately
> 500
> > tables. We run hundreds or thousands of queries per second.
> >
>
> 500 tables is a lot more than what I typically handle. I'm sure it
> complicates things.
>
> But see this post by James Smith in a recent thread :
>
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/perl-modperl/202008.mbox/ajax/%3=
Cef383804cf394c53b48258531891d12b%40sanger.ac.uk%3E
>
> Easier to read in this archive :
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/perl-modperl/202008.mbox/browser
>
> I also remember a post by a chinese guy who handled the same order of
> database size, in which he wrote that he had compared several frameworks
> and mod_perl was the fastest; but that was something like 10 years ago, a=
nd
> I can't find it anymore.
>
> So I'm not sure how mod_perl could handle that kind of load and be
> horribly inefficient?
>
> (I forgot to say in my previous post that over 50% of the time used by my
> script is spent on the _one_ query out of 120 that writes a smallish
> session hash to disk)
>
> --
> Bien =C3=A0 vous, Vincent Veyron
>
> https://compta.libremen.com
> Logiciel libre de comptabilit=C3=A9 g=C3=A9n=C3=A9rale en partie double
>
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mod_perl is horribly inefficient because prefork is inefficient and because
each request is single threaded. In addition to this, mod_perl also cannot
provide websockets which are essential in a modern application.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 1:26 AM Vincent Veyron wrote:
>
> [You forgot to cc the list ]
>
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 23:16:03 -0500
> John Dunlap wrote:
>
> > We run 20 customers on a single box and our database has approximately
> 500
> > tables. We run hundreds or thousands of queries per second.
> >
>
> 500 tables is a lot more than what I typically handle. I'm sure it
> complicates things.
>
> But see this post by James Smith in a recent thread :
>
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/perl-modperl/202008.mbox/ajax/%3=
Cef383804cf394c53b48258531891d12b%40sanger.ac.uk%3E
>
> Easier to read in this archive :
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/perl-modperl/202008.mbox/browser
>
> I also remember a post by a chinese guy who handled the same order of
> database size, in which he wrote that he had compared several frameworks
> and mod_perl was the fastest; but that was something like 10 years ago, a=
nd
> I can't find it anymore.
>
> So I'm not sure how mod_perl could handle that kind of load and be
> horribly inefficient?
>
> (I forgot to say in my previous post that over 50% of the time used by my
> script is spent on the _one_ query out of 120 that writes a smallish
> session hash to disk)
>
> --
> Bien =C3=A0 vous, Vincent Veyron
>
> https://compta.libremen.com
> Logiciel libre de comptabilit=C3=A9 g=C3=A9n=C3=A9rale en partie double
>
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