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DATE 2020-12-23
FROM From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?=
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
On 22.12.2020 14:20, Matthias Peng wrote:
> Can I guess mod_perl is the upgraded version of apreq? Thanks Andre.

Not really. They are really 2 different things.

The essence of mod_perl, is to embed a perl interpreter in Apache httpd.
This costs memory, and all the more since many perl modules are not thread-safe, so if you
use them in your code, at this moment the only safe way to do it is to use the Apache
httpd prefork model. This means that each Apache httpd child process has its own copy of
the perl interpreter, which means that the memory used by this embedded perl interpreter
has to be counted n times (as many times as there are Apache httpd child processes running
at any one time).
This can be significant, but it is also relative : if you compare the memory used in the
practice by an Apache httpd with mod_perl and compare it to other possible solutions for
web applications (e.g. a java-based webserver, or back-end solutions running their own
interpreter), you will see that this "bad side of mod_perl" is really not as bad as many
perl and mod_perl detractors would want you to believe.
There are no miracles : if you want to do many complex things in parallel and do them
fast, you are going to use memory and CPU time, no matter which techniques or tools you use.

Once you have admitted the above, having a perl interpreter embedded in Apache httpd
through mod_perl leads to 2 major things :

1) anything written in perl and used by your web application can run *much* faster (with
the right setup), because it will be pre-compiled by the perl interpreter the first time
it is run, and then cached in some intermediate form, which will run say 100 times faster
any subsequent time it is run after that (as long as it runs within the same Apache
child). So, * if you know perl and like perl as a programming language, and you are - as I
am - amazed by the incredible scope and quality and documentation of the perl CPAN library
*, just that makes it worth having a good look at mod_perl.
But this is only one aspect of mod_perl.

2) the most important aspect (in my view), is that mod_perl allows you to really intervene
and "do things", in perl, inside the logic of Apache httpd itself, at just about any step
of the processing of a HTTP request by Apache. Not everyone is interested in doing this,
but if you find that your applications could benefit from being able to inspect and/or
modify the way in which Apache httpd is processing HTTP requests, there is not really any
tool that compares to mod_perl in that respect.
In fact, what mod_perl really allows you to do, is to turn things around : instead of
being this little perl toolbox that is added to httpd, it allows you to use Apache httpd -
with all its finely tuned code and extensions - *as a toolbox* to do what you want in your
perl application. That is the real power of mod_perl. If mod_perl did not exist, the only
real alternative for doing that kind of thing, would be to write your own Apache add-on
modules in C. (Which would mean "forget about CPAN" and start looking elsewhere for
anything you need in addition).

In comparison to mod_perl, the apreq library is more limited and more focused. It's main
aspect in my view, is to provide a more efficient alternative for the perl CGI module, in
terms of processing cgi-bin script arguments and cookies (and maybe some other things
which I admit I've never really looked at).

I guess that by now you know that I am really a perl and mod_perl fan.

As far as perl is concerned, as a programming language : there are people who like it, and
others who don't, and it is quite pointless to try to convert the ones into the others.
But if what you want is a programming tool which allows you to do many different things
quickly - even things of which you initially know very little about - there is still no
real alternative to the conjunction of perl and the CPAN library.



>
>
> On 22.12.2020 06:49, Matthias Peng wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I am developing a simple mp2 application.
> > I looked for the installation for mp2 utils, and found this two:
> >
> > libapache2-mod-perl2
> >
> > libapache2-mod-apreq2
> >
> >
> > what're their relations? Should I install both, or only the first one?
> >
>
> Hi.
>
> They are different and independent packages and module libraries, and you can use the one
> or the other, or both, depending on your needs.
> (We always install both, and we use both)
>
> For mod_perl per se, you need only the /libapache2-mod-perl2/ package.
> This gives you access to all the stuff documented here :
> http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/api/index.html
>
>
> *except* what is at the very end of that page :
>
> "Part VI: Related Modules" -> libapreq modules
> (this is what is contained in the separate /libapache2-mod-apreq2/ package)
> The documentation for libapreq is at :
> http://httpd.apache.org/apreq/docs/libapreq2/modules.html
>
>
> It may be a bit confusing at first, because both (independent) packages use some common
> namespaces ("Apache2::" and "APR::"), and because each of mod_perl and libapreq2 have
> their own form of "Apache Request object", named very similarly :
> - for mod_perl it is Apache2::RequestRec
> - for libapreq it is Apache2::Request
> (I guess that libapreq was first, that's why they got the better name ;-)
>
> I am  a bit reluctant to try explaining the difference further (for fear of confusing you
> further), but here is a very rough summary :
>
> - to deal with 99% of what has to do with controlling what happens within Apache httpd in
> terms of processing HTTP requests (or just to run your perl scripts faster), use the
> mod_perl package.
> So install /libapache2-mod-perl2/ first, and start coding.
>
> - if you finds out later that you have to do a lot of processing of CGI parameters (the
> request "query string") or cookies, you can then install and use use the libapreq API
> which (among other things) provide an alternative to what the CGI module provides.
>
> In any case, there is a bit of a learning curve, but it is great fun and very powerful.
>
>
>
>
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  91. 2020-12-20 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  92. 2020-12-20 Tom Browder <tom.browder-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  93. 2020-12-20 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  94. 2020-12-20 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  95. 2020-12-20 John Dunlap <John-at-lariat.co> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  96. 2020-12-20 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  97. 2020-12-20 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  98. 2020-12-20 Tom Browder <tom.browder-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  99. 2020-12-20 Steven Lembark <lembark-at-wrkhors.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  100. 2020-12-20 Steven Lembark <lembark-at-wrkhors.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  101. 2020-12-19 Rabbinical Seminary of America/Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Time is Running Out! Please Join Us in Expressing
  102. 2020-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Vaccine explanations by my favorite PA's who are
  103. 2020-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] we are in serious trouble...
  104. 2020-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This is worth understanding...
  105. 2020-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Treatment Failure
  106. 2020-12-21 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #491 - Both CPAN RT and the CPAN
  107. 2020-12-20 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  108. 2020-12-22 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  109. 2020-12-22 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  110. 2020-12-22 John Dunlap <John-at-lariat.co> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  111. 2020-12-22 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  112. 2020-12-22 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  113. 2020-12-22 John Dunlap <John-at-lariat.co> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  114. 2020-12-21 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Don't use session hashes [EXT]
  115. 2020-12-22 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  116. 2020-12-21 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  117. 2020-12-21 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  118. 2020-12-21 Vincent Veyron <vv.lists-at-wanadoo.fr> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Don't use session hashes
  119. 2020-12-21 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  120. 2020-12-21 Vincent Veyron <vv.lists-at-wanadoo.fr> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  121. 2020-12-20 Vincent Veyron <vv.lists-at-wanadoo.fr> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  122. 2020-12-20 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  123. 2020-12-20 Vincent Veyron <vv.lists-at-wanadoo.fr> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  124. 2020-12-22 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  125. 2020-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Our friends who we depend on for medical
  126. 2020-12-22 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Help us set high priorities for 2021: Send input
  127. 2020-12-22 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Answer to Asking about comparison
  128. 2020-12-22 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Answer to Asking about comparison
  129. 2020-12-22 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Answer to Asking about comparison
  130. 2020-12-22 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Answer to Asking about comparison
  131. 2020-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Panic is setting in!!!
  132. 2020-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] No end to Government Survalence
  133. 2020-12-23 Sandhya <sandhya.pawar03-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  134. 2020-12-23 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  135. 2020-12-23 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  136. 2020-12-23 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  137. 2020-12-23 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  138. 2020-12-23 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  139. 2020-12-22 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  140. 2020-12-22 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  141. 2020-12-22 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  142. 2020-12-22 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  143. 2020-12-22 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  144. 2020-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Winter storm preparation.
  145. 2020-12-23 Sergey Poznyakoff <gray-at-gnu.org.ua> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] mailutils-3.11 released [stable]
  146. 2020-12-23 Sergey Poznyakoff <gray-at-gnu.org.ua> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] gdbm-1.19 released [stable]
  147. 2020-12-23 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  148. 2020-12-23 Nuno Semedo via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Help me with the interface
  149. 2020-12-22 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Colour Palette
  150. 2020-12-21 Joshua Oxley via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Gaussian blur confusion
  151. 2020-12-22 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Gaussian blur confusion
  152. 2020-12-22 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Gaussian blur confusion
  153. 2020-12-22 Peter Wells <mail-at-organbuilder.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Colour Palette
  154. 2020-12-19 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Images different in other editors
  155. 2020-12-18 Richard Kimber via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Images much darker in other editors
  156. 2020-12-19 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Images much darker in other
  157. 2020-12-18 Nicholas Perks via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Feedback
  158. 2020-12-18 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Images much darker in other
  159. 2020-12-17 Nicholas Perks via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Feedback
  160. 2020-12-16 nick glos via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 111,
  161. 2020-12-16 Pat David via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Feedback
  162. 2020-12-11 ShiroYuki Mot via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] open multi tiff files in script-fu
  163. 2020-12-07 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  164. 2020-12-13 Nicholas Perks via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Help!
  165. 2020-12-13 Francesco Angioni via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] problem with installation help file
  166. 2020-12-07 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  167. 2020-12-05 Partha Bagchi via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  168. 2020-12-05 Partha Bagchi via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] H E L P!
  169. 2020-12-05 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  170. 2020-12-05 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] H E L P!
  171. 2020-12-15 nick glos via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 111,
  172. 2020-12-15 Nicholas Perks via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Feedback
  173. 2020-12-05 Ed Prothero via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] H E L P
  174. 2020-12-05 Partha Bagchi via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] H E L P!
  175. 2020-12-04 Mark Morin <mdmpsyd-at-gwi.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  176. 2020-12-04 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  177. 2020-12-04 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  178. 2020-12-04 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  179. 2020-12-03 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  180. 2020-12-04 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 .xcf files can't open
  181. 2020-12-04 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Image Compression
  182. 2020-12-03 Dave Stevens <geek-at-uniserve.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  183. 2020-12-03 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  184. 2020-12-03 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  185. 2020-12-03 Partha Bagchi via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  186. 2020-12-03 Thomas Liljenstam via ekiga-list <ekiga-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 4.0.1 - Assertion fail:
  187. 2020-12-03 Jop Huttenhuis via ekiga-list <ekiga-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 4.0.1 - Assertion fail:
  188. 2020-12-03 From: "Dr. Jason L. Amerson" <drjason-at-alphagenius.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Image Compression
  189. 2020-12-03 From: "Dr. Jason L. Amerson" <drjason-at-alphagenius.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Image Compression
  190. 2020-12-03 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  191. 2020-12-03 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  192. 2020-12-02 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  193. 2020-12-02 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  194. 2020-12-02 Partha Bagchi via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  195. 2020-12-02 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  196. 2020-12-02 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  197. 2020-12-02 Partha Bagchi via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  198. 2020-12-02 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  199. 2020-12-02 Partha Bagchi via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  200. 2020-12-02 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image files
  201. 2020-12-15 Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 111,
  202. 2020-12-17 Pat David via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Feedback
  203. 2020-12-02 Techno <techno6-at-glib.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 .xcf files can't open
  204. 2020-12-02 Jason Amerson via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Image Compression
  205. 2020-12-04 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  206. 2020-12-04 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  207. 2020-12-02 From: =?UTF-8?B?w5h5dmluZCBLb2zDpXM=?= <pippin-at-gimp.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Image Compression
  208. 2020-12-02 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Image Compression
  209. 2020-12-02 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 .xcf files can't open
  210. 2020-12-02 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Image Compression
  211. 2020-12-04 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Opening uncompressed NASA image
  212. 2020-12-04 Richard Kimber via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Images different in other editors
  213. 2020-12-23 David Cantrell <david-at-cantrell.org.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] CFP NY.PM Technical Meetup
  214. 2020-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] CFP NY.PM Technical Meetup
  215. 2020-12-24 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Answer to Asking about comparison
  216. 2020-12-24 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Answer to Asking about comparison
  217. 2020-12-24 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Answer to Asking about comparison
  218. 2020-12-23 klausgoelker--- via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Answer to Asking about comparison
  219. 2020-12-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Anyone have a recommendation for a good source
  220. 2020-12-24 Simon Sobisch <simonsobisch-at-gnu.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Release of GnuCOBOL 3.1.2
  221. 2020-12-24 IEEE Engineering in Medicine and Biology Society <m.markowycz-at-ieee.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] A Special Message from the EMBS President,
  222. 2020-12-25 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Release of GnuCOBOL 3.1.2 | I spent alotta
  223. 2020-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Release of GnuCOBOL 3.1.2 | I spent alotta
  224. 2020-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fear Mongering never ends
  225. 2020-12-23 Nuno Semedo via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Help me with the interface
  226. 2020-12-25 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [Animations] How to merge down
  227. 2020-12-24 R45XvezA via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [Animations] How to merge down
  228. 2020-12-25 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Procedure Plug-in
  229. 2020-12-25 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Help me with the interface
  230. 2020-12-24 David Appleyard via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Procedure Plug-in
  231. 2020-12-24 Nicholas Perks via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Feedback
  232. 2020-12-24 David Appleyard via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Procedure Plug-in
  233. 2020-12-24 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Help me with the interface
  234. 2020-12-23 Rick Kline <rick-at-kline.ms> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Help me with the interface
  235. 2020-12-26 Sandhya <sandhya.pawar03-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  236. 2020-12-26 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  237. 2020-12-23 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  238. 2020-12-25 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  239. 2020-12-26 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  240. 2020-12-26 Sandhya <sandhya.pawar03-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  241. 2020-12-23 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  242. 2020-12-25 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  243. 2020-12-23 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  244. 2020-12-23 Sandhya <sandhya.pawar03-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  245. 2020-12-23 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  246. 2020-12-23 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  247. 2020-12-23 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  248. 2020-12-23 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  249. 2020-12-23 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  250. 2020-12-22 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] unsubscribe
  251. 2020-12-22 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  252. 2020-12-22 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  253. 2020-12-22 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  254. 2020-12-22 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  255. 2020-12-22 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  256. 2020-12-26 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Release of GnuCOBOL 3.1.2 | I spent alotta
  257. 2020-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Edward Snowden
  258. 2020-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Snoden pardon
  259. 2020-12-28 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #492 - Perl Steering Council Election
  260. 2020-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Zoom, Google, Facebook spyware
  261. 2020-12-28 From: "Humble Bundle" <contact-at-mailer.humblebundle.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Learn what Sudo does and other Linux lexicons!
  262. 2020-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] SNoden and the EFF
  263. 2020-12-29 Nate Lally <nate.lally-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] CFP NY.PM Technical Meetup
  264. 2020-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] cellphone mix up
  265. 2020-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] A survey the media distorions and the price we
  266. 2020-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] trust your friends in China - Free Medical
  267. 2020-12-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] trust your friends in China - Free
  268. 2020-12-29 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fw: Plastic coffins | | True report ?
  269. 2020-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Continuation of the Chinese political problem and
  270. 2020-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Swim Class on Zoom - Back Stroke it Baby
  271. 2020-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID - the Rich get richer and leave the city
  272. 2020-12-29 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Set another Default value on
  273. 2020-12-29 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Set another Default value on nationality
  274. 2020-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fw: Plastic coffins | | True report ?
  275. 2020-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 causes hysteria in Congressional Alien
  276. 2020-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] CEOs and Economic results of COVID-19 really a
  277. 2020-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Pharmacists
  278. 2020-12-29 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2361-1: important: Security
  279. 2020-12-29 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2359-1: important: Security
  280. 2020-12-29 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2360-1: important: Security
  281. 2020-12-28 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2357-1: important: Security
  282. 2020-12-28 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2350-1: moderate: Security
  283. 2020-12-28 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2351-1: moderate: Security
  284. 2020-12-27 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2349-1: moderate: Security
  285. 2020-12-27 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2348-1: moderate: Security
  286. 2020-12-27 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2344-1: Security update for
  287. 2020-12-26 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2336-1: moderate: Security
  288. 2020-12-26 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2343-1: important: Security
  289. 2020-12-26 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2334-1: important: Security
  290. 2020-12-26 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2333-1: important: Security
  291. 2020-12-26 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2332-1: important: Security
  292. 2020-12-25 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2325-1: critical: Security
  293. 2020-12-25 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2324-1: critical: Security
  294. 2020-12-22 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2317-1: critical: Security
  295. 2020-12-22 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2318-1: critical: Security
  296. 2020-12-22 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2317-1: critical: Security
  297. 2020-12-22 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2313-1: moderate: Security
  298. 2020-12-26 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2337-1: moderate: Security
  299. 2020-12-26 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2331-1: moderate: Security
  300. 2020-12-25 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2327-1: important: Security
  301. 2020-12-22 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openSUSE-SU-2020:2314-1: moderate: Security
  302. 2020-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Digital Mirrors with Adrino Boards
  303. 2020-12-30 From: "Geoffrey Knauth, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FSF fights to secure software freedom for future
  304. 2020-12-30 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Plastic coffins | | True report ? | | | 29.95
  305. 2020-12-30 Rabbinical Seminary of America/Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] DEADLINE IN A FEW HOURS! In Lieu of Our Dinner...
  306. 2020-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hackings and the Vaccine roll out
  307. 2020-12-31 From: "achmil" <achmil-at-free.fr> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] bugs Gimp 2.10.22
  308. 2020-12-31 dboland9 via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] LED white christmas lights effect
  309. 2020-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Career change.... Fwd: 2021 Fossil Explainer
  310. 2020-12-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Collapse of intellectual culture... this is how
  311. 2020-12-31 Jacques Deguest <jack-at-deguest.jp> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How to create an APR::SockAddr object
  312. 2020-12-30 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  313. 2020-12-30 Tom Browder <tom.browder-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  314. 2020-12-29 Adam Prime <adam.prime-at-utoronto.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] HTML template for MP2
  315. 2020-12-29 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] HTML template for MP2
  316. 2020-12-31 Jacques Deguest <jack-at-deguest.jp> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How to create an APR::SockAddr object
  317. 2020-12-30 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  318. 2020-12-30 Tom Browder <tom.browder-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  319. 2020-12-29 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] HTML template for MP2
  320. 2020-12-26 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  321. 2020-12-29 Adam Prime <adam.prime-at-utoronto.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] HTML template for MP2
  322. 2020-12-30 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  323. 2020-12-31 Jacques Deguest <jack-at-deguest.jp> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How to create an APR::SockAddr object
  324. 2020-12-23 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  325. 2020-12-25 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  326. 2020-12-23 Sandhya <sandhya.pawar03-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  327. 2020-12-23 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  328. 2020-12-23 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  329. 2020-12-23 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  330. 2020-12-22 Matthias Peng <pengmatthias-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  331. 2020-12-22 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  332. 2020-12-23 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  333. 2020-12-22 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  334. 2020-12-23 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT]
  335. 2020-12-23 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils
  336. 2020-12-29 Nate Lally <nate.lally-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] CFP NY.PM Technical Meetup
  337. 2020-12-28 Pen Guin via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to compile a vala GIMP plugin on
  338. 2020-12-27 Pen Guin via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to compile a vala plugin on
  339. 2020-12-26 flexible fotography via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] configuring GIMP 2.8 for Windows 10
  340. 2020-12-27 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] configuring GIMP 2.8 for Windows
  341. 2020-12-16 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] re2 package requires update
  342. 2020-12-16 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] re2 package requires update
  343. 2020-12-29 Nate Lally <nate.lally-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] CFP NY.PM Technical Meetup
  344. 2020-12-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] CFP NY.PM Technical Meetup

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