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MESSAGE
DATE 2004-01-07
FROM From: "Steve Milo"
SUBJECT Re: RE: [hangout] Liquidator: 6,500 tech firms among 'walking dead'
From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed Jan 7 18:27:09 2004
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To: "Inker Evan"
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Either way he's no doctor no matter how you cut it.

I wonder if his middle name is bob and he has a short chubby counterpart
with glasses who also goes by the name of bob.

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Inker, Evan"
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2004 6:14 pm
Subject: RE: [hangout] Liquidator: 6,500 tech firms among 'walking dead'

>
> More likely that he has the Vulture Mentality...
> Swoops down when you are dying and picks your bones clean
>
> Regards,
>
> Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Milo [mailto:slavik914-at-rennlist.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:14 PM
> To: Inker Evan
> Cc: 'Hangout-at-nylxs.com'
> Subject: Re: [hangout] Liquidator: 6,500 tech firms among 'walking
> dead'
>
> A 'music manager'?
>
> If the musicians he managed are any reflection of his business
> philosophy I'm not surprised he chose the business he's in today.
>
> Sounds like pichinson has a knack for ruining good talent.
>
> Steve M
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Inker, Evan"
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2004 2:29 pm
> Subject: [hangout] Liquidator: 6,500 tech firms among 'walking dead'
>
> >
> > Liquidator: 6,500 tech firms among 'walking dead'
> > Tech company 'doctor of reality' expects another busy year
> >
> > PALO ALTO, California (AP) --Amid rising hopes for a high-tech
> > turnaround,there's this sobering sign: Martin Pichinson -- a man
> > who has buried nearly
> > 150 failed startups since 1999 -- has swooped into Silicon
> Valley
> > like a
> > vulture lurking over a pack of wounded animals.
> >
> > Pichinson, a self-described "doctor of reality" who helps
> liquidate
> > companies, says he wouldn't have moved from Los Angeles to Palo
> Alto a
> > few months ago had he not smelled more high-tech trouble looming.
> >
> > "Sadly, it looks like 2004 is going to be another busy year for
> me,"
> > Pichinson said. "There's still another 6,500 to 7,500 companies
> out
> > there who are among the walking dead."
> >
> > Even before the move, Pichinson became a familiar face in Silicon
> > Valley and
> > other high-tech hubs, largely because so many venture
> capitalists
> > summonedhim and his firm, Sherwood Partners, to help clear the
> > debris left by the
> > dot-com implosion.
> >
> > Kozmo.com, iChristian.com and Alladvantage.com are among the
> high-
> > profilecasualties bagged by Pichinson during the past four
> years.
> > Pichinson figures more than 50,000 people have lost their jobs
> on his
> > death watch.
> >
> > It's a macabre job that most venture capitalists abhor.
> >
> > "Venture capitalists only want to deal with the top 40 percent
> of the
> > companies in their portfolios," Pichinson said. "We get the
> bottom of
> > the barrel."
> >
> > With most of the dregs flowing from Silicon Valley, Pichinson
> > decided to
> > move Sherwood's headquarters to the high-tech center so he's in
> a
> > betterposition to handle the future carnage.
> >
> > Sometimes, Pichinson and Sherwood's 60 employees are able to
> salvage
> > troubled startups by cutting costs and training the executives
> to
> > rethinktheir ways. Sherwood even brings in an FBI consultant
> > specializing in hostage negotiation techniques to help management.
> >
> > But for every company that Pichinson has saved, he has overseen
> the
> > liquidation of roughly three others since 1999.
> >
> > Conventional wisdom says Pichinson, 57, is about to face a
> > business downturn
> > himself. With technology stocks finishing their best year since
> > the 1990s
> > and companies poised to spend more money on computer gear,
> there's
> > a growing
> > consensus high-tech's high death toll is tapering off.
> >
> > "Most of the biggest problem companies have been restructured,
> > sold off or
> > closed down," said Barry Kramer, a Palo Alto attorney who
> advises
> > venturecapitalists.
> >
> > Pichinson scoffs at that notion, predicting the carcasses of
> > doomed startups
> > will continue to pile up for the next three to seven years.
> >
> > "I have closed more companies than anyone in the world, so no one
> > knowsbetter about all the things that can go wrong in a
> business,"
> > Pichinsonsaid.
> >
> > Sweeping statements like that are vintage Pichinson -- a colorful
> > former pop
> > music manager who enjoys schmoozing, even when he is filling the
> > role of a
> > grim reaper. Pichinson boasts that his Rolodex is filled with
> more
> > than5,000 Silicon Valley contacts.
> >
> > "Someone has to dance to bring in the business and Marty likes to
> > dance,"Sherwood Partners co-founder Michael Maidy says of
> > Pichinson's networking
> > skills.
> >
> > While Pichinson's showmanship helps open doors, it's his ability
> > to close
> > businesses that wins Sherwood the trust -- and patronage -- of
> venture> capitalists.
> >
> > "Marty likes to talk, but he also walks the walk," said Spencer
> > Tall, a
> > general partner with APV Technology Partners, a Palo Alto firm
> > that has
> > worked with Pichinson. "He can help you make some very cogent
> > decisions."
> > It's a process that often requires Pichinson to be brutally
> honest
> > with the
> > entrepreneurs running a troubled startup. Sherwood Partners
> "comes
> > in and
> > talks tough," said Doug Koo, who ran a failing San Francisco
> > startup, Cat
> > Technology. "They teach you that some of the things are a
> > necessary evil."
> >
> > When Sherwood entered the picture in late 2002, Cat Technology
> > didn't have
> > enough money to cover about $15 million in unpaid bills, Koo
> said. The
> > startup seemed destined for bankruptcy until Sherwood engineered a
> > restructuring that led to the startup's sale to a rival firm,
> > FusionStorm.
> > Sherwood Partners isn't the only business gravedigger in Silicon
> > Valley. The
> > list of other high-tech undertakers in the area includes Diablo
> > ManagementGroup, Venture Asset Group, Gerbsman Partners and the
> > Sage Group.
> >
> > But Pichinson's flair has helped separate Sherwood from the rest
> > of the
> > pack, enabling the firm to demand a premium fee. When closing a
> > startup,Pichinson says Sherwood typically charges a 7.5 percent
> > commission on the
> > liquidation of the company's assets or $75,000, whichever is
> greater.>
> > Pichinson began working with the downtrodden in the early 1970s
> > when he
> > began managing music acts around Los Angeles.
> >
> > His clients included The Miracles after Smokey Robinson left the
> > group, and
> > Lou Rawls several years after the singer had fallen on hard times.
> >
> > Under Pichinson's management, both acts turned out major hits in
> > 1976, "Love
> > Machine" by The Miracles and "You'll Never Find A Love Like
> Mine"
> > by Rawls.
> >
> > Pichinson grew weary of music management and left the
> > entertainment business
> > to begin working with distressed companies in the 1980s. He
> shows
> > no signs
> > of burning out in his current job, despite all the tales of woe.
> >
> > "We are trusted caregivers, like a hospice," Pichinson said.
> > "There is
> > always going to be something in trouble, or someone who needs
> our
> > help."
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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  71. 2004-01-14 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Non FOSS and Fedora
  72. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  73. 2004-01-14 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  74. 2004-01-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting
  75. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Does Dell Support Linux? - MozillaQuest Magazine - Page 3 [wanderson-at-nac.net]
  76. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [EmperorLinux-Announce] See Linux Laptops with 54mbps 802.11g and swsusp at LWE [lincoln-at-EmperorLinux.com]
  77. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Software Developer/Consultant (Perl/Unix/Sybase) (onsite), United States, NY, New York City [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  78. 2004-01-14 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] movie
  79. 2004-01-14 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  80. 2004-01-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting
  81. 2004-01-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Software Developer/Consultant (Perl/Unix/Sybase) (onsite), United States, NY, New York City [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  82. 2004-01-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  83. 2004-01-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  84. 2004-01-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  85. 2004-01-15 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  86. 2004-01-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: Linux Kernel (SuSE-SA:2004:003) [thomas-at-suse.de]
  87. 2004-01-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  88. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Keep it civil
  89. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  90. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  91. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  92. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  93. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  94. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  95. 2004-01-16 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  96. 2004-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  97. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  98. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  99. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  100. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  101. 2004-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  102. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  103. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  104. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  105. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  106. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  107. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  108. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  109. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  110. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  111. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  112. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  113. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  114. 2004-01-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  115. 2004-01-16 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> RE: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  116. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  117. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Why couldn't the Expo Overlap with a weekend?
  118. 2004-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Why couldn't the Expo Overlap with a weekend?
  119. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] wireless access near javitts?
  120. 2004-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] wireless access near javitts?
  121. 2004-01-16 psiegel-at-copper.net Subject: [hangout] Keep it civil
  122. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Fwd: Web Hosting
  123. 2004-01-16 From: "John Mullen" <john-at-mullensystems.com> Subject: [hangout] Why couldn't the Expo Overlap with a weekend?
  124. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [cudye-at-novell.com: NYC Event - Novell/SUSE/Ximian Presentation on Linux Initiatives]
  125. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] LDAP/Perl Expert-NJ Consulting Firm, United States, NJ, Bedminster]
  126. 2004-01-16 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] [TechForum] Fwd: Open Source Library Presentation
  127. 2004-01-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flame war
  128. 2004-01-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flame war
  129. 2004-01-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] leeches=$(diff Free_Software Open_Source)
  130. 2004-01-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] leeches=$(diff Free_Software Open_Source)
  131. 2004-01-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] tech night
  132. 2004-01-17 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] tech night
  133. 2004-01-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] tech night
  134. 2004-01-17 Peter Siegel <psiegel-at-copper.net> Subject: [hangout] Flame war
  135. 2004-01-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] leeches=$(diff Free_Software Open_Source)
  136. 2004-01-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Selfishness...
  137. 2004-01-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] tech night
  138. 2004-01-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  139. 2004-01-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  140. 2004-01-18 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  141. 2004-01-18 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  142. 2004-01-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tomorrows Board Meeting
  143. 2004-01-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tomorrows Board Meeting
  144. 2004-01-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tomorrows Board Meeting
  145. 2004-01-18 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] Top 10 Open Source Tools for eActivism
  146. 2004-01-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  147. 2004-01-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  148. 2004-01-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  149. 2004-01-19 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  150. 2004-01-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  151. 2004-01-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  152. 2004-01-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  153. 2004-01-19 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] how did we miss this?
  154. 2004-01-20 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: RE: [hangout] Lake Placid Driving Directions
  155. 2004-01-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: RE: [hangout] Lake Placid Driving Directions
  156. 2004-01-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes
  157. 2004-01-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes
  158. 2004-01-20 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Lake Placid Driving Directions
  159. 2004-01-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lodging in Lake Placid
  160. 2004-01-20 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Lodging in Lake Placid
  161. 2004-01-20 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Lodging in Lake Placid
  162. 2004-01-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  163. 2004-01-20 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  164. 2004-01-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  165. 2004-01-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  166. 2004-01-20 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  167. 2004-01-20 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  168. 2004-01-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  169. 2004-01-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Tuesday 20 January through Friday 23 January, 2004: Perl, LWE, K. Knopper at NYLUG, Gale Brewer at BOF, Howard Elmer at MuSIG
  170. 2004-01-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wow - time passses ....
  171. 2004-01-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes
  172. 2004-01-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Cards
  173. 2004-01-20 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM denies moving to desktop Linux by 2005
  174. 2004-01-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Lake Placid Driving Directions
  175. 2004-01-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Lodging in Lake Placid
  176. 2004-01-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  177. 2004-01-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] DotGNU in Software Development Times
  178. 2004-01-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Has RealNetworks Violated the DMCA?
  179. 2004-01-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Tuesday 20 January through Friday 23 January, 2004: Perl, LWE, K. Knopper at NYLUG, Gale Brewer at BOF, Howard Elmer at MuSIG
  180. 2004-01-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Wow - time passses ....
  181. 2004-01-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novel Meeting
  182. 2004-01-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  183. 2004-01-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  184. 2004-01-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  185. 2004-01-22 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  186. 2004-01-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] bring a baby to the expo
  187. 2004-01-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Things to do on closing day for LWE.
  188. 2004-01-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] van
  189. 2004-01-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] City Council Contacts
  190. 2004-01-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LWE Replacement meeting today
  191. 2004-01-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Coble Bill, making FACTS "Intellectual Property", passed by committee!
  192. 2004-01-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  193. 2004-01-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite
  194. 2004-01-24 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite?
  195. 2004-01-25 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] City Council Contacts
  196. 2004-01-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] LWE Replacement meeting today
  197. 2004-01-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] LWE Replacement meeting today
  198. 2004-01-25 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] LWE Replacement meeting today
  199. 2004-01-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Freedom-IT Expo Plans
  200. 2004-01-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fixed the boot problem on my G4
  201. 2004-01-26 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  202. 2004-01-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  203. 2004-01-26 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Fixed the boot problem on my G4
  204. 2004-01-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: on iwon.com news
  205. 2004-01-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Response to Jay
  206. 2004-01-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] travel plans
  207. 2004-01-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What are Bayesain spam filters? and Re: [wwwac] The End of Spam as
  208. 2004-01-26 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] [OT] RMS talk in India
  209. 2004-01-27 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: RE: [hangout] travel plans
  210. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  211. 2004-01-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  212. 2004-01-27 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  213. 2004-01-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  214. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  215. 2004-01-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  216. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] travel plans
  217. 2004-01-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] travel plans
  218. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] travel plans
  219. 2004-01-27 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] travel plans
  220. 2004-01-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] travel plans
  221. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [OT] RMS talk in India
  222. 2004-01-27 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] [OT] RMS talk in India
  223. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Upcoming New York City Council Technology in Government Hearings.
  224. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [freedom-it] Freedom-IT Expo Plans
  225. 2004-01-28 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  226. 2004-01-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  227. 2004-01-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Ride back from Lake Placid needed on Sunday
  228. 2004-01-28 Peter Siegel <psiegel-at-copper.net> Subject: [hangout] Ride back from Lake Placid needed on Sunday
  229. 2004-01-29 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] A New Dawn is Arisin'
  230. 2004-01-29 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Lake Placid
  231. 2004-01-29 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Lake Placid
  232. 2004-01-29 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] morning plans
  233. 2004-01-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Ride back from Lake Placid needed on Sunday
  234. 2004-01-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] A New Dawn is Arisin'
  235. 2004-01-29 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lake Placid
  236. 2004-01-29 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] Lake Placid
  237. 2004-01-29 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] morning plans
  238. 2004-01-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ten-at-gnome.org: Re[2]: Kings Games]

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