Mon May 23 04:19:25 2022
EVENTS
 FREE
SOFTWARE
INSTITUTE

POLITICS
JOBS
MEMBERS'
CORNER

MAILING
LIST

NYLXS Mailing Lists and Archives
NYLXS Members have a lot to say and share but we don't keep many secrets. Join the Hangout Mailing List and say your peice.

DATE 2008-02-01

HANGOUT

2022-05-23 | 2022-04-23 | 2022-03-23 | 2022-02-23 | 2022-01-23 | 2021-12-23 | 2021-11-23 | 2021-10-23 | 2021-09-23 | 2021-08-23 | 2021-07-23 | 2021-06-23 | 2021-05-23 | 2021-04-23 | 2021-03-23 | 2021-02-23 | 2021-01-23 | 2020-12-23 | 2020-11-23 | 2020-10-23 | 2020-09-23 | 2020-08-23 | 2020-07-23 | 2020-06-23 | 2020-05-23 | 2020-04-23 | 2020-03-23 | 2020-02-23 | 2020-01-23 | 2019-12-23 | 2019-11-23 | 2019-10-23 | 2019-09-23 | 2019-08-23 | 2019-07-23 | 2019-06-23 | 2019-05-23 | 2019-04-23 | 2019-03-23 | 2019-02-23 | 2019-01-23 | 2018-12-23 | 2018-11-23 | 2018-10-23 | 2018-09-23 | 2018-08-23 | 2018-07-23 | 2018-06-23 | 2018-05-23 | 2018-04-23 | 2018-03-23 | 2018-02-23 | 2018-01-23 | 2017-12-23 | 2017-11-23 | 2017-10-23 | 2017-09-23 | 2017-08-23 | 2017-07-23 | 2017-06-23 | 2017-05-23 | 2017-04-23 | 2017-03-23 | 2017-02-23 | 2017-01-23 | 2016-12-23 | 2016-11-23 | 2016-10-23 | 2016-09-23 | 2016-08-23 | 2016-07-23 | 2016-06-23 | 2016-05-23 | 2016-04-23 | 2016-03-23 | 2016-02-23 | 2016-01-23 | 2015-12-23 | 2015-11-23 | 2015-10-23 | 2015-09-23 | 2015-08-23 | 2015-07-23 | 2015-06-23 | 2015-05-23 | 2015-04-23 | 2015-03-23 | 2015-02-23 | 2015-01-23 | 2014-12-23 | 2014-11-23 | 2014-10-23 | 2014-09-23 | 2014-08-23 | 2014-07-23 | 2014-06-23 | 2014-05-23 | 2014-04-23 | 2014-03-23 | 2014-02-23 | 2014-01-23 | 2013-12-23 | 2013-11-23 | 2013-10-23 | 2013-09-23 | 2013-08-23 | 2013-07-23 | 2013-06-23 | 2013-05-23 | 2013-04-23 | 2013-03-23 | 2013-02-23 | 2013-01-23 | 2012-12-23 | 2012-11-23 | 2012-10-23 | 2012-09-23 | 2012-08-23 | 2012-07-23 | 2012-06-23 | 2012-05-23 | 2012-04-23 | 2012-03-23 | 2012-02-23 | 2012-01-23 | 2011-12-23 | 2011-11-23 | 2011-10-23 | 2011-09-23 | 2011-08-23 | 2011-07-23 | 2011-06-23 | 2011-05-23 | 2011-04-23 | 2011-03-23 | 2011-02-23 | 2011-01-23 | 2010-12-23 | 2010-11-23 | 2010-10-23 | 2010-09-23 | 2010-08-23 | 2010-07-23 | 2010-06-23 | 2010-05-23 | 2010-04-23 | 2010-03-23 | 2010-02-23 | 2010-01-23 | 2009-12-23 | 2009-11-23 | 2009-10-23 | 2009-09-23 | 2009-08-23 | 2009-07-23 | 2009-06-23 | 2009-05-23 | 2009-04-23 | 2009-03-23 | 2009-02-23 | 2009-01-23 | 2008-12-23 | 2008-11-23 | 2008-10-23 | 2008-09-23 | 2008-08-23 | 2008-07-23 | 2008-06-23 | 2008-05-23 | 2008-04-23 | 2008-03-23 | 2008-02-23 | 2008-01-23 | 2007-12-23 | 2007-11-23 | 2007-10-23 | 2007-09-23 | 2007-08-23 | 2007-07-23 | 2007-06-23 | 2007-05-23 | 2007-04-23 | 2007-03-23 | 2007-02-23 | 2007-01-23 | 2006-12-23 | 2006-11-23 | 2006-10-23 | 2006-09-23 | 2006-08-23 | 2006-07-23 | 2006-06-23 | 2006-05-23 | 2006-04-23 | 2006-03-23 | 2006-02-23 | 2006-01-23 | 2005-12-23 | 2005-11-23 | 2005-10-23 | 2005-09-23 | 2005-08-23 | 2005-07-23 | 2005-06-23 | 2005-05-23 | 2005-04-23 | 2005-03-23 | 2005-02-23 | 2005-01-23 | 2004-12-23 | 2004-11-23 | 2004-10-23 | 2004-09-23 | 2004-08-23 | 2004-07-23 | 2004-06-23 | 2004-05-23 | 2004-04-23 | 2004-03-23 | 2004-02-23 | 2004-01-23 | 2003-12-23 | 2003-11-23 | 2003-10-23 | 2003-09-23 | 2003-08-23 | 2003-07-23 | 2003-06-23 | 2003-05-23 | 2003-04-23 | 2003-03-23 | 2003-02-23 | 2003-01-23 | 2002-12-23 | 2002-11-23 | 2002-10-23 | 2002-09-23 | 2002-08-23 | 2002-07-23 | 2002-06-23 | 2002-05-23 | 2002-04-23 | 2002-03-23 | 2002-02-23 | 2002-01-23 | 2001-12-23 | 2001-11-23 | 2001-10-23 | 2001-09-23 | 2001-08-23 | 2001-07-23 | 2001-06-23 | 2001-05-23 | 2001-04-23 | 2001-03-23 | 2001-02-23 | 2001-01-23 | 2000-12-23 | 2000-11-23 | 2000-10-23 | 2000-09-23 | 2000-08-23 | 2000-07-23 | 2000-06-23 | 2000-05-23 | 2000-04-23 | 2000-03-23 | 2000-02-23 | 2000-01-23 | 1999-12-23

Key: Value:

Key: Value:

MESSAGE
DATE 2008-02-21
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] for what its worth
From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Thu Feb 21 22:21:15 2008
Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1M3LCGP018968
for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:21:14 -0500
Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost)
by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m1M3LC0S018967
for hangout-outgoings; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:21:12 -0500
X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f
Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1M3L9PD018964
for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:21:11 -0500
Received: (from ruben-at-localhost)
by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m1M3L94s018963
for hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:21:09 -0500
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:21:09 -0500
From: Ruben Safir
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] for what its worth
Message-ID: <20080222032109.GA18957-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i
Sender: lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Precedence: bulk

Microsoft Pledges To Open Up Some Software February 21, 2008: 08:05 PM EST

Feb. 22, 2008 (Investor's Business Daily delivered by Newstex) --

Hoping to appease antitrust regulators in the European Union, Microsoft
(NASDAQ:MSFT) on Thursday said it would work to make its software products
more interoperable with those of its competitors.

Microsoft MSFT executives promised to support standards and work more
closely with the industry, including proponents of free, "open-source"
software.

In a conference call, Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer said:
"While we've shared lots of information with our partners over the
years, enabling developers to write many, many, many -- now hundreds of
thousands -- of applications, for example, for Windows, today's actions
represent a significant expansion toward even greater transparency and
interoperability."

Microsoft said it would publish on its Web site documentation for the
"application programming interfaces" and communications protocols that
it uses to connect its most popular products to other Microsoft software.

It previously charged a fee for access to its software blueprints. But
now Microsoft is giving away the documentation and computer code needed
to make third-party applications run better with Windows, Office and
other products.

Microsoft will still charge patent license fees to companies that sell
software built using this information. But Microsoft said those fees
would be low.

The software giant also said it would open up its Office software to
more document formats.

Microsoft says the broad-reaching changes are a response to business and
enterprise customers who want more information sharing across computer
systems and software applications.

It also cited its need to comply with the September 2007 judgment of
the European Court of First Instance. That ruling forced Microsoft to
reveal the communications protocols between its PC and server operating
systems so that rivals would be on a level footing in developing software
applications.

Microsoft's latest move reflects both its "unique legal situation"
as well as "new opportunities and risks in the more-connected world,"
Ballmer said.

Microsoft said the changes apply to its high-volume products, including
Windows Vista, Office 2007 and Windows Server 2008. It also includes
SQL, Exchange and Sharepoint 19erver products for databases, messaging
and collaboration.

Microsoft is reacting to a shift in the computing world toward a
hybrid platform that uses the personal computer, servers and resources
accessed over the Internet, says Charlie Di Bona, an analyst at Sanford
C. Bernstein. By opening up its software, Microsoft could increase its
sales over the long term, he says.

Antitrust problems in Europe were the main reason for the changes, says
Greg DeMichillie, an analyst at independent research firm Directions
on Microsoft.

The Redmond, Wash., software giant is responding to the EU's original
antitrust case, which involved server software, as well as trying to
head off other antitrust rulings, DeMichillie says.

Microsoft is concerned about an investigation initiated by the EU in
January into its Office productivity software franchise.

"By including Sharepoint 14d Office into this announcement, they're trying
to get ahead of the curve and forestall an investigation into Office,"
DeMichillie said. "Office has never been subjected to antitrust scrutiny."

Office wasn't part of the EU case or the earlier U.S. case, which focused
on Microsoft's use of its Windows PC operating system to dominate the
Web browser market.

The EU also has a complaint on file seeking to require Microsoft to
open the communications protocols in its Sharepoint 14d Exchange server
products.

Microsoft wants to "clear the decks" of its antitrust issues in Europe now
because it will face them later this year over its proposed acquisition
of Internet services company Yahoo (NASDAQ:YHOO) YHOO, DeMichillie says.

Microsoft, he adds, hopes regulators will have a better perception of
it if it shows progress in being more open and accommodating.

But the European Commission, the EU's regulatory body, reacted skeptically
to Microsoft's news.

"The Commission would welcome any move toward genuine interoperability,"
regulators said in a written statement. "Nonetheless, the Commission
notes that today's announcement follows at least four similar statements
by Microsoft in the past on the importance of interoperability."


Newstex ID: IBD-0001-23202762
-- http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting
Stuff http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software

So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like
Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world -
RI Safir 1998

http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS -
RI Safir 2002

"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"

"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers
to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in
our own society."

"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be
damned.< You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and
technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in
Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."

© Copyright for the Digital Millennium

  1. 2008-02-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lake Placid Coming Soon
  2. 2008-02-07 email <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lake Placid Coming Soon
  3. 2008-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lake Placid Coming Soon
  4. 2008-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lake Placid Coming Soon
  5. 2008-02-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nyc-at-workatjelly.com: Jelly in Brooklyn 2-15-08]
  6. 2008-02-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [m06malho-at-council.nyc.gov: Broadband Article & Upcoming BAC Hearing in Queens, NY]
  7. 2008-02-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [legcalendar-at-council.nyc.ny.us: New York City Council Calendar - Week of 2.11.08]
  8. 2008-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The cost of freedom
  9. 2008-02-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] We're Here
  10. 2008-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Workshops
  11. 2008-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [legcalendar-at-council.nyc.ny.us: New York City Council Calendar - Week of 2.18.08]
  12. 2008-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] CellPhones and Cancer
  13. 2008-02-18 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Has anyone else seen these
  14. 2008-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Has anyone else seen these
  15. 2008-02-18 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Has anyone else seen these
  16. 2008-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Has anyone else seen these
  17. 2008-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Has anyone else seen these
  18. 2008-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Open Office and Licenses for NYC
  19. 2008-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [3rd_Ward_rrwwstv-at-cmpgnr.com: Spring Fever Got You Restless?]
  20. 2008-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Has anyone else seen these]
  21. 2008-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Has anyone else seen these
  22. 2008-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: :wq[NYLXS - HANGOUT] Has anyone else seen these]
  23. 2008-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free the DVD's
  24. 2008-02-19 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] J&R Laptop
  25. 2008-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] J&R Laptop
  26. 2008-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] bind cache
  27. 2008-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] named cacheing
  28. 2008-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Broadband withIP addresses
  29. 2008-02-21 email <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Broadband withIP addresses
  30. 2008-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Broadband withIP addresses
  31. 2008-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] for what its worth
  32. 2008-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Workshops
  33. 2008-02-22 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Workshops
  34. 2008-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Workshops
  35. 2008-02-22 From: "Joshua Zeidner" <jjzeidner-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
  36. 2008-02-22 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Workshops
  37. 2008-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
  38. 2008-02-22 From: "Joshua Zeidner" <jjzeidner-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
  39. 2008-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
  40. 2008-02-22 From: "Joshua Zeidner" <jjzeidner-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
  41. 2008-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
  42. 2008-02-22 From: "Joshua Zeidner" <jjzeidner-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
  43. 2008-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
  44. 2008-02-22 From: "Joshua Zeidner" <jjzeidner-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
  45. 2008-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Workshops
  46. 2008-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Workshops
  47. 2008-02-25 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] meeting
  48. 2008-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [info-at-coursesandworkshops.com: Summer Workshops: Creativity and Memoir]:wq
  49. 2008-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] audio tools
  50. 2008-02-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Netscape GONE

NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! Join NYLXS and make a difference in your community today!