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DATE | 2008-02-22 |
FROM | From: "Joshua Zeidner"
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SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
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From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Fri Feb 22 09:36:17 2008 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1MEaF56026121 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:36:17 -0500 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m1MEaFtH026120 for hangout-outgoings; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:36:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.185]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1MEaALE026117 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:36:14 -0500 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n40so207860gve.39 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:36:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=VdFuKLee0VYMjog2f/SiciD6hgPub2txQLl+tKk8lMU=; b=yH4kavhZlIIOEgaHrWaqdxat165n5jwsqNUIHyWeyWbdg85UKjoJNt7cOp/eTJew0iyJUighH3arLKr6mM7hOnTIiKBaJhd0vsT13crPiJlQGBq8QGqoCWG/l/cDc6ksSf7bUgcxp1tnPrSELr2T5neZehM0kymdq410NmvFuFc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=etjJaJGej/usKRMxLsjwPKgErnQRygza4678qG2W5xlaGmXezGTu1aBp+XuZkWMfpLx+vJNRX60t1V9fLj5/N2fbJxSfeJ0uoWcnmN+2/wEte3ndXLsBglEFq6YwQDBdyVKM2gW7ir/PYomzifm/cliUIAEVY+4YW6VZvvIImHE= Received: by 10.150.226.15 with SMTP id y15mr3679452ybg.145.1203690955554; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.8.13 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:35:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e8718c60802220635nb68d9d8p95bef1709742aa09-at-mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:35:55 -0700 From: "Joshua Zeidner" To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > > > > No one is suggesting that. What the chorus of activists are > > suggesting are the breaches of FISA laws. FISA laws make it difficult > > for people to exploit our government funded surveillance programs. > > > > > Tell me more. If it is OT here, you can bring it to the NYLXS hangout > mailing list.
Ruben,
I am truly surprised that you are not more aware of this issue!
- http://www.joshuaziender.com
> > For what it's worth > > A) - privacy is not one of the constitution guaranteed rights > > B) - I personally couldn't care less if they are listening to > my phone as long as they are actually protecting me from being > nuked > > C) - What they would do with any information they get from me seriously > would worry me if it was being used inapropriately, especially for someone's > private gain. > > D) - The current debate has been over wiretaps of international calls > THROUGH US systems, which really makes sense to me since SO MUCH of the > internation phone traffic goes through the US. I don't see why the government > should need to put a wiretap in Islamabad if the traffic is going through > a US controlled satelite. > > E) - I'm worried that they are wasting resources using too large of a "net" > Someone has to go through all those communications. They'd need to be > targeted better than the NSA did during the Vietnam era when they just cast > a larger and larger net without cause and wasting millions of dollars. > > > Ruben
- http://www.joshuazeidner.com/
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