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DATE | 2008-02-22 |
FROM | From: "Joshua Zeidner"
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
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From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Fri Feb 22 17:12:59 2008 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1MMCvOQ031186 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:12:59 -0500 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m1MMCvgP031185 for hangout-outgoings; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:12:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.185]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1MMCsQt031181 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:12:56 -0500 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n40so338524gve.39 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:12:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1yfCRN/ayHJG3QRPflDZxj7hfe7AkmBaD3s0LsKiYCA=; b=wMplqC5jITkYdR2Kks0JrQGLLXpLRm17vMTzjdsEs9OFRQJL4d+b/8NtvQ6ayzbGO5IHMu0f7xSKYNzKfHAVitZd5lxSoxZrtWG93u3A2PV6OFD2wZ7MXq/LTqFh7BmERHlMOlyqH/TkRiAZZD9lP2cDigEBjO9bv1/1x2yeNIc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I6SKoQvMuvZ6uTOozW8WcyaL1PxFNShMT7W3FL3CxgeKrTCs8yu7D0Wz9UAdbC5m3QOuWxsGLslr3OI5VtFmK2+TQL9fwed3/C+6P18DiCGob3n9LwoL2VSj4fgf2gkEHqQY3S8BbmkF2ydNaQ//KdgDucuPUIMV+WPKfkEccOE= Received: by 10.150.202.17 with SMTP id z17mr200191ybf.70.1203718367033; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:12:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.8.13 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:12:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e8718c60802221412lb58bb6ft652c0cfb6e09821c-at-mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:12:46 -0700 From: "Joshua Zeidner" To: "Ruben Safir" Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity Cc: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com In-Reply-To: <20080222220156.GA31006-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9e8718c60802220635nb68d9d8p95bef1709742aa09-at-mail.gmail.com> <20080222154032.GA26753-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <9e8718c60802220858r595d828fs7d150870fc50912b-at-mail.gmail.com> <20080222201101.GA29614-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <9e8718c60802221217u7200b234y95ad985eceafc3d4-at-mail.gmail.com> <20080222203418.GA29871-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <9e8718c60802221241reefd594i27f8e76bf5acb634-at-mail.gmail.com> <20080222220156.GA31006-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Sender: lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 01:41:07PM -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > > > > > > > its the 'as long as' part that FISA was designed to enforce. > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act > > > > > > > > FISA was essentially introduced as a reaction to Watergate. > > > > > > > Watergate was an attempt to rig an election. Survailence certainly can't be used for > > > that purpose. > > > > from the ACLU site: http://www.aclu.org/safefree/spying/fisa.html > > (credible enough for you?). > > > > 'The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), born after the > > Watergate scandal, establishes how the government can secretly > > eavesdrop on Americans in their own country in intelligence > > investigations. It was originally passed to allow the government to > > collect foreign intelligence information involving communications with > > "agents of foreign powers."' > > > > > > > How is it being broken?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy
- http://www.joshuazeidner.com/
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