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DATE | 2008-02-22 |
FROM | From: "Joshua Zeidner"
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
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From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Fri Feb 22 11:58:34 2008 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1MGwWf2027726 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:58:34 -0500 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m1MGwWt5027725 for hangout-outgoings; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:58:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.231]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1MGwOT9027721 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:58:30 -0500 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c38so725465wra.17 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:58:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=5Z6LFU8ydIxK9L0kog80Fwkm5SNLffup9Z3sfFpUutw=; b=wyZz2ftpBc/MAOEIfR/P2KhOhdMOoAxk6QbrN4ipDuTrp8n0NEY43ZIJZJpwhwce9I5YcVkcGyDxj/hJ82LjwdVztd0jVfYvqJ5YZzBDrFeqR01V2FPWML+4ghP9PRSSkpLA3CNQtGq5QYfnN4PdGkm/xyfsV/1nwmfOCsgQb5Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KGjTQOeKwB/olpYw4cKfAzi4715wdq+cQ1YcFX+G7B8SpBGR4KfPtiJqc4HPZ1E5+OKoD7G/LsOOlDyKsIaXqDoKFWYrTWwRClo+BewEn9XoIgtqcyvAh49e/2utbvc638gRYL1tMmVyz8UPGC8QBtJmupMVNSjv9s+EVTrL3S8= Received: by 10.141.193.1 with SMTP id v1mr115097rvp.245.1203699494093; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.35.15 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:58:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e8718c60802220858r595d828fs7d150870fc50912b-at-mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:58:14 -0700 From: "Joshua Zeidner" To: "Ruben Safir" , hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity In-Reply-To: <20080222154032.GA26753-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9e8718c60802220635nb68d9d8p95bef1709742aa09-at-mail.gmail.com> <20080222154032.GA26753-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Sender: lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 07:35:55AM -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > No one is suggesting that. What the chorus of activists are > > > > suggesting are the breaches of FISA laws. FISA laws make it difficult > > > > for people to exploit our government funded surveillance programs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tell me more. If it is OT here, you can bring it to the NYLXS hangout > > > mailing list. > > > > Ruben, > > > > I am truly surprised that you are not more aware of this issue! > > > That's not how I'd view it but which part of the issue do you think I > am not more aware of?
Well you appear to support the opinion that breaching FISA laws are necessary to ensure our safety. I may write something up in the near future, but for now here are some links if you are so inclined, from the inimitable David Isenberg: http://blogsearch.google.com/?bl_url=http%3A%2F%2Fisen.com%2Fblog%2F&ui=blg&as_q=fisa
- http://www.joshuazeidner.com/
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