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| DATE | 2008-02-22 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:34:18 -0500
From: Ruben Safir
To: Joshua Zeidner
Cc: Ruben Safir , hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FISA and Telco Immunity
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> > I couldn't tell you because you haven't explained the FISA laws yet, but I can
> > tell you that as far as I'm concerned, the Government can tap any line it wants
> > as long as they are in pursuit of people who want to explode a nuclear weapon
> > over NYC and have the time, resources, fanatisms and means to do so.
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> its the 'as long as' part that FISA was designed to enforce.
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act
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> FISA was essentially introduced as a reaction to Watergate.
>
Watergate was an attempt to rig an election. Survailence certainly can't be used for
that purpose.
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> > > http://blogsearch.google.com/?bl_url=http%3A%2F%2Fisen.com%2Fblog%2F&ui=blg&as_q=fisa
> > >
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> > I don't accept blogs in general as useful places to aquire information.
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> What do you accept? the NYLUG list? :)
The individual sources on NYLUG, especially when anotated by primary sources, is a definte step
ABOVE a blog in reliability.
Ruben
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> > > necessary to ensure our safety.
> - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/
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