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DATE 2008-04-01

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MESSAGE
DATE 2008-04-12
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 04:16:50PM -0400, April Centrone wrote:
> What does this mean? I clicked the link.. it brought me to a different
> video.
> april
>
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Michael L. Richardson <
> mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> wrote:
>
> > Rebun I have the video it is in .vob format 3.17 gigs.
> >

It's not on the net yet. What is some whatever that is that Mike has been
putting in his mail sig. Maybe Mike can answer what it is.

I'd need to clean up some space on the main server.

Ruben


> > *****
> > Check this out:www.globalabundanceprogram.com/mlr52
> > *****
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ***************************************
> > Check this out:www.globalabundanceprogram.com/mlr52
> > ***************************************
> >
> >
> >
> > Ruben Safir wrote:
> >
> > Ah - here you are in the spam filter.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:10:11PM -0400, April Centrone wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ruben,
> >
> > I admire your passion and knowledge of the subject, but the expression
> > is misdirected. I am not asking you to sign anything. i am not accusing you
> > of anything. I merely asked you about where we go from here.
> >
> > It is not Bassam who is to blame if you want to end our progress up to this
> > point. Bassam is a musician who has had bad experiences, he has every right
> > to be nervous. This is his work, and we all have to bend to our colleagues
> > sometimes, even if they are wrong or paranoid or whatever the case may be.
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure what issues Bassam has had previously but it is axiomatic
> > on my part that I'm not going to sign anything which restricts my
> > abilty to make works available and to education, especially in light
> > of the extremely debilitary way copyright law is currently. And I need
> > open and free cooperation to help promote something, which is so time
> > consuming I can't even begin to express it.
> >
> > I don't believe that it i shwed business to close off the distribution
> > and promotion of works, especially when trying to develop schools, especially
> > in a small narrow cultural segment, especially when the word 'Arabic' itself
> > creates visereral negitive emotional reactions by Americans which additionally
> > needs to be hopped over.
> >
> > When I suggested he was a perfectionist, it was actually a hope on my part
> > that he was artistically motivated, and not legally motivated. Artistically
> > motivated I can eventually work with because I'm comited to helping people
> > with worthwhile contributions to make find ways to promote their contributions
> > to society. But a legal and "business" motivation is a black hole contrary
> > to my most basic efforts (and your basic efforts as well).
> >
> > This line of thinking is a trap. If you beat people over the head wit legal
> > restrictions then either they'll just ignor the law anyway and perform
> > copyright violations, or they'll just ignor you and forget about you
> > because nobody outside of a few lawyers wants to be bothered with
> > threats to be sued.
> >
> > Take some time out and lookup vitalbooks and Ruben Safir, and see the
> > Creative Commons by Lawrence Lessig, which I don't entirely agree with
> > but is a good starting point.
> >
> > Promoting creative work which are singlerly controlled by a single
> > entitey lock stock and barrel is something I don't want to promote.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I personally trusted you, that's why I got you involved. But I don't promise
> > every creative person I am associated with also has a keen business sense
> > and knowledge of modern-day technology.
> >
> >
> > Of course. I've been at this now for 8 years. I think I'm aware of both
> > the terrain. I feel like a tape recorder sometimes.
> >
> > But know whati'm saying
> >
> > We intimately share our civilization. You and I, and 10 billion
> > other people who yearn for freedom, knowedge, and the ability to participate
> > and share. We can work together to turn ignorance and suffering into
> > education and light, or we can chase false pretenses which hurt us all.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Let's start over and try to move forward.
> >
> >
> > Your a very smart girl, April. Talented beyound I think even your fully aware,
> > and have a huge future in store for yourself.
> >
> > You know what you have to do.
> >
> >
> > April
> >
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 01:05:42PM -0400, April Centrone wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Rubin,
> > I'm not sure I understood your email fully. So where are you
> > posting/archiving the video? We are proceeding forward as usual I
> >
> >
> > assume..
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> > April
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a political organization called New Yorkers for Fair Use. It
> > fights
> > against restrictive copyright laws. I wouldn't sign any copyright
> > contracts.
> >
> > I believe that restrictive copyrights, especially in the digital arena,
> > obstructs
> > education, economic development, impedes cultural exchange, and endangers
> > creatitivy.
> >
> > Furthermore, I talked at length to your cameraman. He said that Basaam
> > was very slow
> > in signing even the consent for an interview. That is just bizzare
> > because the boy,
> > I forgot his name, doesn't need a consent for an interview in the first
> > place.
> > No one can tell him what he can and can not write. This really gets
> > twisted.
> >
> > Regardless, what your trying to accomplish, cultural exchange and
> > education is
> > absolutely inconsistant with the position Basaam has taken, and frankly,
> > I'm
> > offended by sentence "We are legally bound, and there are repercussions".
> >
> > I have about a dozen lawyers who work with NY Fair Use.
> >
> > You are NOT legally bound and I certainly wouldn't get involved with
> > any contractial agreements which would make me legally bound.
> >
> > We will put the tape into our archive. We have no reasonable fair use
> > purpose for any of it's content at the moment, but it is footage of
> > authentic middle eastern classical music and it might come in handy
> > for something important some day.
> >
> > Meanwhile, the spirit of this is not conduscive to your mission. It's
> > completely
> > contrary to mine. You might not relize that yet, but your a bright women,
> > and eventually you'll figure that out.
> >
> > Keep in mind, the entire genera of Jazz would not have developed if faced
> > with this kind of legal bluster.
> >
> > "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to
> > our
> > own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own
> > society."
> >
> > I'm not a sharecropper.
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 12:42:14AM -0400, April Centrone wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Rubin,
> >
> > Thanks so much for attending last Thursday. Did you set up the
> >
> >
> > video?
> >
> >
> > It's
> >
> >
> > very important that it is not broadcasted, and not just because we
> >
> >
> > are
> >
> >
> > perfectionists. :)
> >
> > We are legally bound, and there are repercussions if it's let out
> >
> >
> > without
> >
> >
> > being approved and signed off by contract. This private area on your
> >
> >
> > site
> >
> >
> > sounds satisfactory. The camera man we had we personally hired. Even
> > allowed by invitation to tape, he still had to sign a contract
> >
> >
> > ensuring
> >
> >
> > there would be no private distribution.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah - I'm not going to do that because I find that to be imoral
> > in principle. I spoke to the kid on the subway hope and he made
> > clear that its too difficult to get anything done with regard to
> > promotion and education with the ensemble and/or school. I would
> > never ever sign such a contract.
> >
> > I don't have time to educate anyone right now on the damage such
> > use of copyright poses to public education, not to mention the
> > damage it does to promotion of individual artists and schools,
> > but I'm going to back off this project for other artists and
> > educational programs that permit collaberation and education.
> >
> > I'm cc'ing Michael on this. We'll likely to just privately archive
> > the tape since I hate to destroy information.
> >
> > Good luck April. Your very very talented.
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> >
> > --http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuffhttp://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >
> > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn,
> >
> >
> > like
> >
> >
> > Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world -
> >
> >
> > RI
> >
> >
> > Safir 1998
> > http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI
> > Safir 2002
> >
> > "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
> >
> > "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers
> >
> >
> > to
> >
> >
> > our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our
> >
> >
> > own
> >
> >
> > society."
> >
> > "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be
> > damned.<
> > You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology
> >
> >
> > have
> >
> >
> > been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I
> >
> >
> > guess
> >
> >
> > you missed that one."
> >
> > (c) Copyright for the Digital Millennium
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuffhttp://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >
> > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like
> > Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI
> > Safir 1998
> > http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI
> > Safir 2002
> >
> > "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
> >
> > "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to
> > our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own
> > society."
> >
> > "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be
> > damned.<
> > You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have
> > been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess
> > you missed that one."
> >
> > (c) Copyright for the Digital Millennium
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > April Centronewww.myspace.com/aprilsoprano321april.centrone-at-gmail.com
> > 732-895-5357
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> April Centrone
> www.myspace.com/aprilsoprano321
> april.centrone-at-gmail.com
> 732-895-5357

--
http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software

So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998

http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002

"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"

"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."

"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."

© Copyright for the Digital Millennium

  1. 2008-04-01 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] This is just wrong
  2. 2008-04-01 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] This is just wrong
  3. 2008-04-01 ronny abraham <ronny.coder-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] outrageous behavior in the market
  4. 2008-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Travel Taxes
  5. 2008-04-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [nylug-talk] need to refer client for Red Hat help / OLPH project]
  6. 2008-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [dplist-at-danielpipes.org: #847: Pipes asks, "Will Europe Resist Islamization?" in Jer. Post]
  7. 2008-04-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Congestion Tax Wars
  8. 2008-04-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Brooklyn Congestion Price Fixing
  9. 2008-04-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Congestion Tax Wars II
  10. 2008-04-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Congestion Tax Price Fixing Web Site
  11. 2008-04-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fighting back and keeping our unity
  12. 2008-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Spring Agenda - Meeting Result 3-4-08: Comments Requested]
  13. 2008-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Transit Taxes
  14. 2008-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free The Subways, Because the Subways want to be FREE!
  15. 2008-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] This Pork Aint Kosher
  16. 2008-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tax the Internet
  17. 2008-04-05 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tax the Internet
  18. 2008-04-06 From: "Ronny Abraham" <ronny.coder-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tax the Internet
  19. 2008-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
  20. 2008-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Congestion Travel Tax Destroyed Businesses in London
  21. 2008-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nyc-at-workatjelly.com: Jelly in Manhattan this Friday, 4/11]
  22. 2008-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
  23. 2008-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Trust the MTA. The MTA is your friend
  24. 2008-04-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nyc-at-workatjelly.com: (Correction) Jelly in Manhattan this Friday, 4/11]
  25. 2008-04-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [johnmark-at-johnmark.org: [BALUG-Talk] BytesFree.org Call for Participation]
  26. 2008-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Passover
  27. 2008-04-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
  28. 2008-04-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: hello]
  29. 2008-04-11 ronny abraham <ronny.coder-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
  30. 2008-04-11 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: hello]
  31. 2008-04-11 Mark Simko <msimko-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
  32. 2008-04-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
  33. 2008-04-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Summer Internship Programs
  34. 2008-04-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Summer Internship Programs
  35. 2008-04-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Music Video Conversion
  36. 2008-04-11 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Music Video Conversion
  37. 2008-04-11 Mark Simko <msimko-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
  38. 2008-04-12 From: "armando fonseca" <afonsec2-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Summer Internship Programs
  39. 2008-04-12 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
  40. 2008-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [info-at-nomadsland.com: [501 Tech Club NY] Searching for Drupal Developer for Video Delivery Website]
  41. 2008-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NNTP Usenet access
  42. 2008-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
  43. 2008-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
  44. 2008-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
  45. 2008-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com>
  46. 2008-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Video Location
  47. 2008-04-12 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  48. 2008-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  49. 2008-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  50. 2008-04-12 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  51. 2008-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  52. 2008-04-12 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  53. 2008-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  54. 2008-04-12 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  55. 2008-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  56. 2008-04-13 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  57. 2008-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  58. 2008-04-13 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  59. 2008-04-13 From: "Victoria Berger" <victoria-at-innovision-systems.com> RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  60. 2008-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  61. 2008-04-13 From: "Victoria Berger" <victoria-at-innovision-systems.com> FW: SPAM-LOW: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re:
  62. 2008-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] fun read: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [conspire] Parts is Parts]
  63. 2008-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The war on DVD's, Bloombergs new crusade..
  64. 2008-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] ASUS PCEEE SDK
  65. 2008-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Regionalism and Your Representitives
  66. 2008-04-14 Mark Simko <msimko-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] ASUS PCEEE SDK
  67. 2008-04-14 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] ASUS PCEEE SDK
  68. 2008-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ward-at-pong.be: [JOB] - FSF seeks senior GNU/Linux Systems administrator and programmer]
  69. 2008-04-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nyc-at-workatjelly.com: Jelly in Brooklyn this Friday, 4/18]
  70. 2008-04-16 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] debian on eeepc
  71. 2008-04-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Passover
  72. 2008-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [legcalendar-at-council.nyc.ny.us: Council Calendar - Week of 04.21.08]
  73. 2008-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mission Statement: Spring Reminder
  74. 2008-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] super copyright: delayed justice?
  75. 2008-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [agravgaard-at-FLYPMEDIA.COM: Re: Interview Request: Flyp Media on Linux and Open Source]
  76. 2008-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [agravgaard-at-FLYPMEDIA.COM: Re: Interview Request: Flyp Media on Linux and Open Source]
  77. 2008-04-23 From: "Joshua Zeidner" <jjzeidner-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [agravgaard-at-FLYPMEDIA.COM: Re: Interview Request: Flyp Media on Linux and Open Source]
  78. 2008-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM is Theft ~~~still
  79. 2008-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] How to really mess up something good
  80. 2008-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Food Rationing
  81. 2008-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] hacking GNU style
  82. 2008-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] How to really mess up something good Part II
  83. 2008-04-24 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] How to really mess up something good
  84. 2008-04-24 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] How to really mess up something good
  85. 2008-04-24 Michael L Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] How to really mess up something good
  86. 2008-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] How to really mess up something good
  87. 2008-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meetings
  88. 2008-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meetings
  89. 2008-04-25 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meetings
  90. 2008-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Press Release on the OLPC Project
  91. 2008-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Press Release on the OLPC Project
  92. 2008-04-26 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Press Release on the OLPC Project
  93. 2008-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [conspire] NYLXS Press Release on the OLPC Project
  94. 2008-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [conspire] NYLXS Press Release on the OLPC Project
  95. 2008-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Attack on the NYLXS Server
  96. 2008-04-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Attack on the NYLXS Server
  97. 2008-04-28 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Attack on the NYLXS Server
  98. 2008-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] EEE with Touch Screen Planned
  99. 2008-04-28 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Attack on the NYLXS Server
  100. 2008-04-28 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Attack on the NYLXS Server
  101. 2008-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More Human Memory from HP

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