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| DATE | 2008-04-24 |
| FROM | Michael L Richardson
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] How to really mess up something good
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Ok "You can have a OS any flaver you want so long as it is
>> MS"
Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> Its simple
> They want funding from Microsoft and the gates foudation. To get it they
> must run MS Windows. Also if you remember Microsoft is willing to go to
> a zero dollor licence fee for educational use if nessisary. In shure
> they work out just such a deal with OLPC.
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 8:44 am, Michael L. Richardson.com wrote:
>> Sounds like "You can have a Ford any color you want so long as it is
>> Black".
>> *****
>> Check this out: www.globalabundanceprogram.com/mlr52
>> *****
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>> Check this out: www.globalabundanceprogram.com/mlr52
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>>
>> ..... Original Message .......
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:06:58 -0400 Ruben Safir
>> wrote:
>>> This just turns my stomach
>>>
>>> OLPC Switch to Windows on XO Is 'muddled,' Developers Say
>>>
>>>
>>> Find a Review Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:30 PM PDT
>>>
>>> Open-source developers should stop bickering, unite and jointly develop
>>> a Windows user interface to make XO laptops more appealing to users,
>>> One Laptop Per Child Chairman Nicholas Negroponte has urged in a public
>>> note to that community.
>>>
>>> Developers in the open-source community did not take lightly to
>>> Negroponte's comments, expressing outrage and questioning the judgment
>>> of OLPC's shift from Linux to Windows for the XO laptop. Developers
>>> called Negroponte's appeal "vague" and "demoralizing" for the future
>>> development of Sugar, the user interface that currently works with Linux
>>> on XO laptops.
>>>
>>> In a note on OLPC's community site, Negroponte wrote that Sugar is less
>>> than perfect and needs to be developed for Windows to expand the
>>> laptop's
>>> appeal. The nonprofit has engaged in discussions with Microsoft to load
>>> Windows on dual-boot versions of the XO laptop.
>>>
>>> "I attribute our weakness to unrealistic development goals and
>>> practices,"
>>> Negroponte wrote. "Our mission has never changed. It has been to bring
>>> connected laptops for learning to children in the poorest and most
>>> remote locations of the world. Our mission has never been to advocate
>>> the perfect learning model or pure Open Source."
>>>
>>> Sugar needs to be separated from the OS core and made platform agnostic,
>>> Negroponte wrote. "To do that, we need to hire more developers, work
>>> more together and spend less time arguing."
>>>
>>> This week developers began debating XO's possible shift from Linux to
>>> Windows after Monday's resignation of Walter Bender, OLPC's president
>>> of software and content. Bender gained a following in the open-source
>>> community by promoting open-source software for the XO despite growing
>>> efforts to load the laptop with Windows XP.
>>>
>>> In a note posted Monday at OLPC's community news, Bender said that he
>>> was leaving to advance the quality open-source software for learning and
>>> would continue to work with the OLPC community "by adopting the spirit
>>> and methodology of the open-source movement."
>>>
>>> Observers contend that Bender left because he was less than happy with
>>> OLPC's move from open source to Windows on the XO laptop. Some
>>> developers
>>> saw it as a sign that OLPC is scaling down Sugar's development.
>>>
>>> Drawing that conclusion from Bender's departure is incorrect, Negroponte
>>> wrote: "We are scaling Sugar up, not down."
>>>
>>> Developers replied that his vision of Sugar for Windows is muddled and
>>> that he is further dividing himself from OLPC's developer community.
>>>
>>> "If you are not serious about Sugar on Windows within the next year,
>>> please continue to avoid 'now' and use 'might' and 'someday' when you
>>> talk about it, and we'll continue to try to make Sugar-on-Linux achieve
>>> its potential," wrote C. Scott Ananian in a community posting at the
>>> OLPC site.
>>>
>>> "I approve of keeping OLPC's options open, in case your current
>>> development team (myself included) cannot deliver on Sugar's potential,
>>> but setting vague (and demoralizing) goals for future development --
>>> without actually devoting the resources to achieve those goals -- is
>>> madness. You have only succeeded in alienating the developers you need
>>> to make Sugar-on-Linux work, without actually achieving any progress on
>>> Sugar-on-Windows," Ananian wrote.
>>>
>>> Porting Sugar, which runs on multiple Linux distributions, to Windows
>>> shouldn't be hard, but the question is whether users will have the same
>>> experience on both OSes, wrote Tomeu Vizoso.
>>>
>>> Negroponte wrote that Sugar needs to be changed from an omelet to a
>>> fried egg "with distinct yoke and white, rather than having the UI,
>>> collaborative tools, power management and radios merge into one
>>> amorphous
>>> blob."
>>>
>>> Vizoso wouldn't chew on Negroponte's vision of a fried egg. "My
>>> understanding is that the Sugar UI is composed of inseparable components
>>> because we wanted to give an integrated and coherent experience. In
>>> which way are you suggesting to split Sugar?"
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
>>> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
>>>
>>> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn,
>>> like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the
>>> world - RI Safir 1998
>>>
>>> http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI
>>> Safir 2002
>>>
>>> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>>>
>>> "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers
>>> to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in
>>> our own society."
>>>
>>> "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be
>>> damned.<
>>> You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology
>>> have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient
>>> Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
>>>
>>> © Copyright for the Digital Millennium
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