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| DATE | 2008-04-24 |
| FROM | From: "Michael L. Richardson.com"
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] How to really mess up something good
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From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Thu Apr 24 08:45:24 2008 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m3OCjMow010914 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:45:24 -0400 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m3OCjM7n010913 for hangout-outgoings; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:45:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.196]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m3OCjIWp010909 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:45:21 -0400 Received: from [99.201.115.9] (99-201-115-9.area3.spcsdns.net [99.201.115.9]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1Jp0ox31fg-000150; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:45:06 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: SnapperMail 2.3.7.01 by Snapperfish To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] How to really mess up something good Message-ID: <4084-SnapperMsg64552427C4363151-at-[99.201.115.9]> In-Reply-To: <20080424010658.GA1795-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20080424010658.GA1795-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 8:44:55 -0400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/LPmgr70jw5NHrHqpy1ZohIsNhU+unJTFnahO iq7D/YfTk85VasTFL/Lq7xo9gZPtgb4PTBjh86dm4fZcs87qM+ J2JqjiMzWT78dqI1UdsIgO6Ori6b9k1UnIZXr9jZjU= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by www2.mrbrklyn.com id m3OCjIWp010909 Sender: lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
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..... Original Message ....... On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:06:58 -0400 Ruben Safir wrote: >This just turns my stomach > >OLPC Switch to Windows on XO Is 'muddled,' Developers Say > > >Find a Review Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:30 PM PDT > >Open-source developers should stop bickering, unite and jointly develop >a Windows user interface to make XO laptops more appealing to users, >One Laptop Per Child Chairman Nicholas Negroponte has urged in a public >note to that community. > >Developers in the open-source community did not take lightly to >Negroponte's comments, expressing outrage and questioning the judgment >of OLPC's shift from Linux to Windows for the XO laptop. Developers >called Negroponte's appeal "vague" and "demoralizing" for the future >development of Sugar, the user interface that currently works with Linux >on XO laptops. > >In a note on OLPC's community site, Negroponte wrote that Sugar is less >than perfect and needs to be developed for Windows to expand the laptop's >appeal. The nonprofit has engaged in discussions with Microsoft to load >Windows on dual-boot versions of the XO laptop. > >"I attribute our weakness to unrealistic development goals and practices," >Negroponte wrote. "Our mission has never changed. It has been to bring >connected laptops for learning to children in the poorest and most >remote locations of the world. Our mission has never been to advocate >the perfect learning model or pure Open Source." > >Sugar needs to be separated from the OS core and made platform agnostic, >Negroponte wrote. "To do that, we need to hire more developers, work >more together and spend less time arguing." > >This week developers began debating XO's possible shift from Linux to >Windows after Monday's resignation of Walter Bender, OLPC's president >of software and content. Bender gained a following in the open-source >community by promoting open-source software for the XO despite growing >efforts to load the laptop with Windows XP. > >In a note posted Monday at OLPC's community news, Bender said that he >was leaving to advance the quality open-source software for learning and >would continue to work with the OLPC community "by adopting the spirit >and methodology of the open-source movement." > >Observers contend that Bender left because he was less than happy with >OLPC's move from open source to Windows on the XO laptop. Some developers >saw it as a sign that OLPC is scaling down Sugar's development. > >Drawing that conclusion from Bender's departure is incorrect, Negroponte >wrote: "We are scaling Sugar up, not down." > >Developers replied that his vision of Sugar for Windows is muddled and >that he is further dividing himself from OLPC's developer community. > >"If you are not serious about Sugar on Windows within the next year, >please continue to avoid 'now' and use 'might' and 'someday' when you >talk about it, and we'll continue to try to make Sugar-on-Linux achieve >its potential," wrote C. Scott Ananian in a community posting at the >OLPC site. > >"I approve of keeping OLPC's options open, in case your current >development team (myself included) cannot deliver on Sugar's potential, >but setting vague (and demoralizing) goals for future development -- >without actually devoting the resources to achieve those goals -- is >madness. You have only succeeded in alienating the developers you need >to make Sugar-on-Linux work, without actually achieving any progress on >Sugar-on-Windows," Ananian wrote. > >Porting Sugar, which runs on multiple Linux distributions, to Windows >shouldn't be hard, but the question is whether users will have the same >experience on both OSes, wrote Tomeu Vizoso. > >Negroponte wrote that Sugar needs to be changed from an omelet to a >fried egg "with distinct yoke and white, rather than having the UI, >collaborative tools, power management and radios merge into one amorphous >blob." > >Vizoso wouldn't chew on Negroponte's vision of a fried egg. "My >understanding is that the Sugar UI is composed of inseparable components >because we wanted to give an integrated and coherent experience. In >which way are you suggesting to split Sugar?" > > >-- >http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff >http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > >So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > >http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > >"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME" > >"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society." > >"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.< >You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one." > >© Copyright for the Digital Millennium
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