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DATE | 2009-01-29 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Projects
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From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Thu Jan 29 20:24:56 2009 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n0U1OrFn009974 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:24:55 -0500 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n0U1Orxe009973 for hangout-outgoings; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:24:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from [68.167.17.98] (www2.mrbrklyn.com [68.167.17.98]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n0U1OoHs009970 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:24:52 -0500 Message-ID: <498256E2.8000005-at-mrbrklyn.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:24:50 -0500 From: Ruben Safir User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Projects References: <20090117064352.GA1772-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <8753839c0901231131sd09c503v41f3aeba977d13df-at-mail.gmail.com> <497A257D.9060906-at-vnetworx.net> <8753839c0901281450i46579c62x6180cded3f96d82d-at-mail.gmail.com> <498143B5.3050909-at-mrbrklyn.com> <8753839c0901290614q41249679y39c751d589b022e3-at-mail.gmail.com> <4981FCE6.3070006-at-vnetworx.net> In-Reply-To: <4981FCE6.3070006-at-vnetworx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Ron Guerin wrote: > einker wrote: > >> You Tell me.. We've held Installfests and no one shows up, we have >> events with barely minimal or no people showing, membership drives are a >> no-go, and the economy is getting crappier by the day. If history is a >> good teacher, we may get more NYLXS participation as more workers are >> displaced from their employment positions and free time increases and $$ >> decreases. Truly a real $hitty situation ........ >> > > That's both my take on the situation, and what I see over at NYLUG as > well. Attendance has been down, although that's partly due to fatigue > among the doers, and so feeds on itself. > > I'm hoping to see the upswing in volunteers like when the Internet > Bubble burst, but haven't yet. Everyone seems pretty wrapped up in > survival mode. I'm in it myself. > > - Ron > > Participation is the first defense for survivability. But lack of membership is our fault completely. We need to devise interesting and constant programs that draw more people over time and we need Manhattan space for projects.
I know this seems contra to current thinking, but I'm 100% certain of this as well. I've sat there when nobody shows up for months on end and then seen people slowly get on board. But the efforts need to be regular and persistent. We need to drive change, and we can. We just need to redouble our efforts.
Ruben
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