|FROM ||Ruben Safir
|SUBJECT ||Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MySQL issues
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:47:51 -0500
From: Ruben Safir
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MySQL issues
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On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 03:22:48PM -0500, Paul Charles Leddy wrote:
> read his latest blog post
Thanks. I read it and frankly, I think he is wrong about the GPL and
that his case is not sound for the reasons I stated. We, at NYLXS at
least, are intimately familiar with the issues he has brought up and
these issues aren't really unique to MYSQL.
The single biggest mistake, free software politics aside, is that he
believes that by removing the GPL from MYSQL he can better protect it.
There is all sorts of problems with that, but the biggest problem is
that he if history is right, he is wrong. If the GPL
was removed from MYSQL, Oracle would then swash Monty like a bug.
The GPL has a derivitive works claus that prevents Oracle from locking
anyone else out...anyone in this case is particularly Monty and David.
I actually smell a court case here over the GPL. Monty might be
unwittingly setting up grounds for his own destruction and significant;y
weaking the GPL and Free Software in General. Taking the "viral
licensing" mantra isn't particulary helpful at all.
Believe me, if this was anyone else BUT Monty, I'd be much more adament
about how wrong headed this is. But Monty's excellent history as a
steward of a major Free Software project isn't enough of a guarantee of
the future protection of the database engine to remove the locked in
legal protections that the community gets with the GPL.
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > Just forwarding this because it seems that majordomo doesn't like
> > the subject line and is kicking to admin
> > Ruben Safir wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 04:39:38AM -0500, Ron Guerin wrote:
> >>> Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>>> I just don't know what to make of this. ?Monty emailed me this today and
> >>>> sent a private message.
> >>>> I'd like to here some opinions on this,
> >>> My recollection is that the FSF has come out against this position.
> >>> You might also want to look this over:
> >>> http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20091208104422384
> >> What is YOUR opinion
> > My opinion, is largely based on the fact that MySQL didn't become Free
> > Software until VA Linux handed them a check for a million dollars. ?I
> > think Monty was never really on board with us, and Larry Augustin's
> > money is long ago spent. ?I suspect he's had a case of seller's remorse
> > now that he can't dual-license MySQL code anymore so now he's trying to
> > dump the GPL.
> > - Ron
> > ----- End forwarded message -----