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Wed, 20 Jan 2021 19:06:54 -0600 Received: from nate by merlin.lan with local (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1l2OR3-001IMt-DD; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 19:06:53 -0600 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 19:06:53 -0600 From: Nate Bargmann To: Autoconf , automake-at-gnu.org Message-ID: <20210121010653.mrgslrrdph3jy463-at-n0nb.us> X-Operating-System: Linux 5.10.0-1-amd64 x86_64 Organization: Amateur Radio! References: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - www11.qth.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - n0nb.us X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: www11.qth.com: authenticated_id: n0nb-at-n0nb.us X-Authenticated-Sender: www11.qth.com: n0nb-at-n0nb.us Received-SPF: pass client-ip=72.52.250.187; envelope-from=n0nb-at-n0nb.us; helo=www11.qth.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: autoconf-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2008291377==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout" --===============2008291377== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x2carehrcahmoss4" Content-Disposition: inline --x2carehrcahmoss4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * On 2021 20 Jan 17:33 -0600, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Autotools is in great danger of becoming irrelevant, at least for new > software development. A lot of people feel hostile toward it. This is quite true. As a co-maintainer of a library project that uses Autoconf, Automake, and Libtool, I've been asked point blank after the most recent major release why we have not switched to cmake. My answer was that I don't have the time nor the desire after spending a considerable amount of time getting my head around Autotools enough to improve and maintain the project's build system with a modicum of sanity. The project builds on any POSIX platform that Autotools can support and MS Windows. Portability of the build system is vital to this project and that is the second priority of the build system. I've built projects from cmake and the Qt equivalent and while their build definition files often seem simple, it appears to me there is a lot that goes on behind the scenes. One strength of the Autotools is that Autoconf and Automake are almost infinitely malleable. Each supports dropping shell syntax in configure.ac or make syntax in a Makefile.am respectively. There just simply need to be ways for the project maintain to extend the build system in ways specific to that project. I've never cared to investigate cmake to know whether it is as capable thus I am unsure if cmake trades control for simplicity. > It seems to me that Autoconf is too difficult to work on. There is too m= uch > to become expert at in order for new volunteers to make an impact. The s= ame > is true for libtool. >=20 > In my opinion, a new "language" designed specifically to meet the needs of > Autoconf should be developed and Autoconf should be re-implemented using = it. > There should be no more need to run external utilities like 'sed', or 'aw= k' > or other things which can be implemented internally in a way which does n= ot > suffer from the white space and delimiter issues that shell script does. I'm not here to defend m4, on the contrary, my life would continue on just fine if I never had to look at m4 ever again. The very few times I have tried have not been pleasant. On the other hand, is there any enthusiasm for reimplementing sed, awk, or other such utilities since Perl did it over 30 years ago and other scripting languages have done so since? The good thing about Automake is that though it is written in Perl, the implementation language doesn't seem to bleed through into the syntax of Makefile.am. With Autoconf, so long as the maintainer can stick with the provided macros or third party ones, life is tolerable. On the rare occasion that I started looking at enhancing a macro, I began questioning some life choices! On the other hand, I am not so quick to abandon shell syntax. It is the lowest common denominator on POSIX like systems. That said, perhaps a reasonable approach would be to target a somewhat older POSIX specification and abandon support for shells that cannot reach even that low bar. As an aside, I have worked to ensure that any shell script that I write is free of Bashisms even though they can make writing scripts easier. > It seems that the core precept that Automake should produce portable > makefiles should be re-evaluated if most systems provide GNU make, or can > easily be updated have it. At the moment the project(s) that seem to be working toward replacing all things GNU do allow the later installation of GNU software. Will such projects eventually become hostile to even the premise of installing GPL software, let alone GNU software, ala iOS? If so, my concerns about support for other make implementations likely become moot as the project I'm involved with is GPL/LGPL licensed. > There is a fork of Automake which was re-done to > be based on GNU Make. This assumes that makefiles written in GNU make can > noticeably improve things. What negative impact would relying solely on GNU make have on third party projects intending to build on platforms where the installation of GNU make may become discouraged? While I've not read of any public plans of such, the actions of FreeBSD make me curious if they might head in that direction eventually. > The support for 'distcheck' is excellent. >=20 > Regardless, thanks for your ideas and the red alert. Agreed on both of these counts, Bob. - Nate --=20 "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 --x2carehrcahmoss4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAABCgAdFiEEG5vcSeqIHtMzWHg79yYl4u2+1ZgFAmAI060ACgkQ9yYl4u2+ 1ZhK0AwAqb1TlauKCTaOtB92jKYln1kiZQEVL2WZYDgWWqz2XnsECf3Tw72H8awP mNh2c561cJW/DV7inF7ELKZFCJ0hOdnB1RkzWh45zeE3VYk7u1BWNzfrfs2HuMwi sHH32HE5JkeR6THhRCNDpmpc2cFMC5sI4whKU9JvVtxnk8hHhlFblytmKfW/Saw3 63sNVRViRiZGSYFDlUSuSg1aQWLgpDvPDo4eXOS3P8BMtC3DUNVDDd/4qHuPaS6a vMiRZgoIso3Wz2OXt/Qz5Unbs1J3HKtzLX/DpZBt6o3ALBCGHfK3b4rgSgc0Letm P5/PdEoHe3OSU2B1JXdWY45J2vTJfT2bSGJK/BWPKe70UfNhuAqiLc+GM9Znxska 5yIjuQx/sU4QBRFo6Nl6BzW8BeIpmc1glJwpyvrxXfVEPLsVtMNoZDo3DWVnnE1+ NPN1RzlgXtmxduhqoaUkmMa0mdNvFpiFb709IrjYGYBkOGEqc4YYMvKPQxekeujS 4viXXyPt =WZcA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x2carehrcahmoss4-- --===============2008291377== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout --===============2008291377==-- 2021-01-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Troubles with wikipedia 2021-01-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT] 2021-01-01 Mark Blackman <mark-at-blackmans.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT] 2021-01-01 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confused about two development utils [EXT] 2021-01-01 Akkana Peck <akkana-at-shallowsky.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] LED white christmas lights effect 2021-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Election Fraud baked into the system 2021-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] What COVID-19 has meant to Western Economies and 2021-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Wallmart and the Opiod Crisis 2021-01-03 Ben Bullock <benkasminbullock-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] Compression ratios of files 2021-01-02 Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] LED white christmas lights effect 2021-01-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] researched facts wrapped in a ball of paranoia 2021-01-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] researched facts wrapped in a ball 2021-01-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] researched facts wrapped in a ball of paranoia 2021-01-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] researched facts wrapped in a ball of paranoia 2021-01-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] researched facts wrapped in a ball of paranoia 2021-01-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] researched facts wrapped in a ball of paranoia 2021-01-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to compile a vala GIMP plugin 2021-01-03 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Fwd: Artix - Mirror rsync 2021-01-03 Juraj Oravec via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Fwd: Artix - Mirror rsync source 2021-01-03 Juraj Oravec <sgorava-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Artix - Mirror rsync source change 2021-01-03 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Fwd: Artix - Mirror rsync 2021-01-03 Juraj Oravec via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Fwd: Artix - Mirror rsync source 2021-01-03 Juraj Oravec <sgorava-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Artix - Mirror rsync source change 2021-01-03 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to compile a vala GIMP plugin 2021-01-03 Kevin Cozens <kevin-at-ve3syb.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to compile a vala GIMP plugin 2021-01-02 flexible fotography via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] how can i... 2021-01-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to compile a vala GIMP plugin 2021-01-03 Simon Budig <simon-at-budig.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] how can i... 2021-01-03 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] how can i... 2021-01-04 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #493 - Happy 2021! 2021-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Native Populations in the Caribian before 2021-01-04 Andrew Solomon <andrew-at-geekuni.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] A message from The Perl Foundation 2021-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Vaccine research over the last 20 years 2021-01-04 From: "Humble Bundle" <contact-at-mailer.humblebundle.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Become_a_front-end_web_development_w?= 2021-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] defund everything... 2021-01-05 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software Supporter Issue 153, January 2021 2021-01-05 Wietse Venema <wietse-at-porcupine.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sender address rejected: Domain not found 2021-01-05 Ansgar Wiechers <lists-at-planetcobalt.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sender address rejected: Domain not found 2021-01-05 From: <ludicree-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sender address rejected: Domain not found 2021-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sender address rejected: Domain not found 2021-01-05 NYOUG <execdir-at-nyoug.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Upcoming Events for Oracle Professionals 2021-01-05 Karl Auer <kauer-at-biplane.com.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sender address rejected: Domain not found 2021-01-04 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Set another Default value on 2021-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] WEchat - political survailence - the Baby with 2021-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] change the past.. 2021-01-06 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Perl Foundation Survey; 2021-01-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Vaccine locals in Brooklyn 2021-01-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [users-at-httpd] Apache shows PHP code instead 2021-01-06 Tatsuki Makino <tatsuki_makino-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [users-at-httpd] Opening Web Interface 2021-01-06 dino-at-tuxweb.it Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [users-at-httpd] Apache shows PHP code instead 2021-01-06 Eric Covener <covener-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [users-at-httpd] Apache shows PHP code instead 2021-01-06 Len Kurylo via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] 2.10.22 vs 2.99.4 2021-01-06 Tom via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] 2.10.22 vs 2.99.4 2021-01-06 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] 2.10.22 vs 2.99.4 2021-01-06 Len Kurylo via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] 2.10.22 vs 2.99.4 2021-01-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to compile a vala GIMP plugin 2021-01-08 Ben Bullock <benkasminbullock-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] I can't figure out how to 2021-01-08 David Horman <davidhorman47-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] I can't figure out how to 2021-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] internet freedom os speech, 2021-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] internet freedom os speech, 2021-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The genuine depths of the COVID-19 Response: The 2021-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Vaccine is going NOWHERE at this rate 2021-01-11 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #494 - Perl Myths 2021-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] internet freedom os speech, 2021-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Post COVID-19 Lockup Hell is opened 2021-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] What voter fraud? 2021-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] internet freedom os speech, 2021-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] under reported news on China and Tawian with long 2021-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] airline problems with the lockdown 2021-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] trump supporters doxed by left 2021-01-12 NYOUG <execdir-at-nyoug.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Upcoming Events for Oracle Professionals 2021-01-11 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Watch "Fight to Repair, 2021-01-11 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Watch "Fight to Repair, 2021-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Obsucles to Free Speech Platforms continue to 2021-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] down the rabbit hole we go... 2021-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Speech rubber hits the road.. 2021-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] left wing free speech 2021-01-11 Dave Stevens <geek-at-uniserve.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Citation 2021-01-12 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Download of Registry 2021-01-11 Ross Martinek <triarius-at-att.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Citation 2021-01-11 Julian Correa via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Citation 2021-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] No Trial By Jury. No Due Process. 2021-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Learning from the Golden Gate Bridge 2021-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Speech being killed across the slaveware 2021-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hot Linux training deals at the Linux Foundation 2021-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] R Programing and Statisitcs 2021-01-15 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] something to clean up 2021-01-15 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] something to clean up 2021-01-15 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] something to clean up 2021-01-15 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] something to clean up 2021-01-15 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] something to clean up after 2021-01-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Serious misuse of the term opensource 2021-01-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Serious misuse of the term opensource 2021-01-16 Kollel Ner Dovid / Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim <info-at-kollelauction.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Flights to Israel?? And What Will You Get With $1, 2021-01-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] State demandsed socialist Social Warrior Bullshit 2021-01-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Freedom_of_Speech_on_the_Internet_-_?= 2021-01-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Big Tech Censorship 2021-01-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Herald Square 2021-01-18 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #495 - Collect O'Reilly Animals 2021-01-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Exceultive order on internet freedom 2021-01-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This is why there is NO urgency to defeat the 2021-01-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Another Trump step in the right direction ... 2021-01-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The money goes straight from the US Treasury, 2021-01-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chinese Economic extortion threatens the west 2021-01-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Everything is FINE with the economy - no rush 2021-01-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Bidens Homeland Security know who is the threat, 2021-01-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Trump Foriegn Policy Doctrim might actually 2021-01-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The lies and the double speak now goes full force 2021-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] airline business is essential to the US economy 2021-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Killing out police department 2021-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fare Hikes postoned - but who cares. Everyone is 2021-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fare Hikes postoned - but who cares. Everyone 2021-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Death of NYC businesses 2021-01-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Death of NYC businesses 2021-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Killing jobs the Biden way - first day out 2021-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lies our fathers (and President) tell us 2021-01-20 Nate Bargmann <n0nb-at-n0nb.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-20 Dan Kegel <dank-at-kegel.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-20 Andy Tai <atai-at-atai.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-20 Nate Bargmann <n0nb-at-n0nb.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-20 Dan Kegel <dank-at-kegel.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-20 Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-20 Bob Friesenhahn <bfriesen-at-simple.dallas.tx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] wayland and perhaps 2021-01-20 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] wayland and perhaps 2021-01-20 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] s6 man pages package 2021-01-20 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] wayland and perhaps pipewire 2021-01-21 amdocs-jobnotification-at-noreply.jobs2web.com Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New jobs posted from jobs.amdocs.com 2021-01-21 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] wayland and perhaps 2021-01-21 Jacob Moody via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] wayland and perhaps 2021-01-21 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] wayland and perhaps 2021-01-21 Jacob Moody via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] wayland and perhaps 2021-01-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Firs COVID-19 Podcast - hoping to get the second 2021-01-21 Bob Friesenhahn <bfriesen-at-simple.dallas.tx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Andy Tai <atai-at-atai.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 pluto--- via Discussion list for the autoconf build system Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 John Calcote <john.calcote-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Bob Friesenhahn <bfriesen-at-simple.dallas.tx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Andy Tai <atai-at-atai.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 pluto--- via Discussion list for the autoconf build system Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 John Calcote <john.calcote-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] And away we gooo 2021-01-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lockdown? What lockdown? 2021-01-21 Bob Friesenhahn <bfriesen-at-simple.dallas.tx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Andy Tai <atai-at-atai.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 pluto--- via Discussion list for the autoconf build system Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 John Calcote <john.calcote-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Andy Tai <atai-at-atai.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 pluto--- via Discussion list for the autoconf build system Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Bob Friesenhahn <bfriesen-at-simple.dallas.tx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-22 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] And away we gooo | | Excellent information ! 2021-01-21 John Calcote <john.calcote-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Tom Tromey <tom-at-tromey.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The individual freedom .... 2021-01-22 Eli Schwartz <eschwartz-at-archlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-22 Nick Bowler <nbowler-at-draconx.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Zack Weinberg <zackw-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Paul Eggert <eggert-at-cs.ucla.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Paul Eggert <eggert-at-cs.ucla.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-21 Paul Eggert <eggert-at-cs.ucla.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-22 Kip Warner <kip-at-thevertigo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-12 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Download of Registry 2021-01-22 Jeffery Small via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Any way to disable GIMP from 2021-01-22 Akkana Peck <akkana-at-shallowsky.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to change colors of patterns 2021-01-22 Dennis <gimp-forums-at-mgssub.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to change colors of patterns 2021-01-22 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Any way to disable GIMP from 2021-01-21 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Images different in other editors 2021-01-20 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] setting DPI for Gimp 2021-01-20 Helmut Jarausch via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] setting DPI for Gimp 2021-01-20 Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Any way to disable GIMP from 2021-01-20 Jeffery Small via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Any way to disable GIMP from touching 2021-01-20 Kat <Kat-at-eusamart.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] My Fuzzy Select tool 2021-01-21 Dennis <gimp-forums-at-mgssub.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to change colors of patterns 2021-01-24 Tom Tromey <tom-at-tromey.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] How much longer can these idiots 2021-01-25 Paul Eggert <eggert-at-cs.ucla.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Bob Friesenhahn <bfriesen-at-simple.dallas.tx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Bob Friesenhahn <bfriesen-at-simple.dallas.tx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Paul Smith <psmith-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Nick Bowler <nbowler-at-draconx.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 From: "David A. Wheeler" <dwheeler-at-dwheeler.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 John Calcote <john.calcote-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Paul Smith <psmith-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Zack Weinberg <zackw-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Paul Smith <psmith-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #496 - Statocles vs Hugo 2021-01-25 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] MORE Democratics Campaign Fraud: Big Machine 2021-01-25 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] How much longer can these idiots 2021-01-25 Paul Eggert <eggert-at-cs.ucla.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Nick Bowler <nbowler-at-draconx.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Bob Friesenhahn <bfriesen-at-simple.dallas.tx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] US Censorship is now truning Chinese 2021-01-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] John Brennan - Criminal 2021-01-26 facebook <facebook-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Congratulate_Paul_R=2E_Rodr?= 2021-01-26 Paul Smith <psmith-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-26 Paul Smith <psmith-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-26 Andy Tai <atai-at-atai.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-26 Richard Purdie <richard.purdie-at-linuxfoundation.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-26 Joseph Myers <joseph-at-codesourcery.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The ULTIMATE in fake news 2021-01-27 Richard Purdie <richard.purdie-at-linuxfoundation.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-27 Joseph Myers <joseph-at-codesourcery.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-27 From: "Pharmacy Times Continuing Education" <reply-at-email.pharmacytimes.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?COVID-19_Care=3A_How_to_Best_Apply_C?= 2021-01-27 Karl Berry <karl-at-freefriends.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Socialists are driving the market crazy 2021-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] You really need to watch this because we just 2021-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Vaccinations and the "Green Passport" 2021-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Solarwidns hack deepens 2021-01-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] you are watching a repeat of the 1929 stoclk 2021-01-29 Richard Purdie <richard.purdie-at-linuxfoundation.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] You cat the Prodcut 2021-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] You ARE the product... 2021-01-29 From: "Optimum" <optimum-at-mail.optimumemail1.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Winter storm preparation. 2021-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lies the Social Justice Warriors Tell Us 2021-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Are you COLD? Well, 2021-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Left is coming for you and COVID-19 is the 2021-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: This week at Humble: Winter Store Sale, 2021-01-30 Bob Long <bob-at-oblong.com.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP is awful, heres why. 2021-01-30 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP is awful, heres why. 2021-01-30 Kat <Kat-at-eusamart.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP is awful, heres why. 2021-01-30 Mark Morin <mdmpsyd-at-gwi.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP is awful, heres why. 2021-01-30 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP is awful, heres why. 2021-01-29 From: "Lani P. Richards via gimp-user-list" <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP *super* slow on new iMac 2021-01-30 From: =?utf-8?q?Jehan_Pag=C3=A8s_via_gimp-user-list?= Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP *super* slow on new iMac 2021-01-29 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP *super* slow on new iMac 2021-01-29 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP *super* slow on new iMac 2021-01-30 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP *super* slow on new iMac 2021-01-23 Rob Watson via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Wavelet denoise 2021-01-27 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Wavelet denoise 2021-01-28 Owen via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to change colors of patterns 2021-01-27 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Does "Emboss" filter work? 2021-01-27 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Does "Emboss" filter work? 2021-01-24 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Does "Emboss" filter work? 2021-01-30 Patrick Duehring via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP is awful, heres why. 2021-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The value of community 2021-01-31 Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-31 Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-31 Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Future plans for Autotools 2021-01-30 Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?= <liste-at-secarica.ro> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP is awful, heres why. 2021-01-31 Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] My Fuzzy Select tool 2021-01-31 Johnny Rosenberg via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP is awful, heres why. 2021-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Are you COLD? Well, 2021-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] (2/18) - GC of GOOGLE - Legal, data privacy, 2021-01-29 Erik Lauritsen via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Please make an antix-announce 2021-01-29 Erik Lauritsen via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Please make an antix-announce 2021-01-30 From: "Canarsie Courier" <updates-at-canarsiecourier.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Grow Your Business For Only $25.00 Weekly 2021-01-26 From: "Wesley Peng" <wesley-at-pengfamily.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] perl's pulsar client 2021-01-26 From: "Wesley Peng" <wesley-at-pengfamily.de> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] perl's pulsar client 2021-01-26 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] perl's pulsar client NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! Join NYLXS and make a difference in your community today!