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DATE 2015-02-10
FROM Elfen Magix
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 16:17:30 -0800
From: Elfen Magix
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
To: hangout , hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
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Seeing the PDF, I see a major problem - its it stupid NYC Dept. of Education courses that I developed in the mid/late 1980s and all those bastages took it and took credit for my work.

In short, the mayor does not want community centers to be giving out technology courses without some sort of give to a school. It was bad when I left it, it is worse now. But to make how, this is what we need:

1) Location with machines.
2) Courses and course material.
3) something they can take home like projects, and a certificate which they can use for getting a so-called job.

Thus Linux or not, the courses need to be:

- Hardware setup and implementation
- System Diagnostics and Repair
- Security of systems (personal and servers)
- Internet technology and programming

Then we can go into:
- Robotics (Arduino hardware)
- Robotics (Raspberry Pi hardware)

Though the Raspberry Pi is Linux on an ARM processor, it is 5X more expensive than the Arduino Amtel Microcontroller. Ebay has the R-Pi for $40, and the Arduino (Chinese Clones) for $8. And the Raspberry Pi needs other components to make it run, the Ardunio does not - outside of the additional pieces (not counting wires, breadboards, servoes, batteries, etc.). For a class of 20 students this would require $600 in hardware.

http://www.raspberrypi.org

http://www.arduino.cc

~Fernando


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(From email error with headers)

What hackers meeting?

What is his program? Where is his program?

I've been doing community based computer training since the
1980s, but it is now that those in control want their palms greased and
their names recognized as founders when they did nothing, is what is stopping
me. The whole shit is corrupt.

But if anyone want to start one, find me and we can sit down
to discuss the details of what is involved and how much is costs.

When and where is the next meeting?

~Fernando.

>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Sun, 2/8/15, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>
>> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
>> To: "hangout"
>> Date: Sunday, February 8, 2015, 8:28 PM
>>
>> I ran into this guy at the hackers meeting and he has a working program
>> in the Bronx that is getting education and employment to participants,
>> and he is teaching GNU classes (not the list in the PDF attachment).
>>
>> I'd like to see how we can emulate this since it brings in income and is
>> successful.
>>
>> Ruben

  1. 2015-02-01 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Your next laptop
  2. 2015-02-01 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Your next laptop
  3. 2015-02-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Mayor and WINS
  4. 2015-02-02 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [Perlweekly] #184 - Larry gave his talk at FOSDEM
  5. 2015-02-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Job Crunch
  6. 2015-02-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Job Crunch
  7. 2015-02-02 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Job Crunch
  8. 2015-02-02 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [announce-at-lists.isoc-ny.org: [isoc-ny] Two NYC meetups Tuesday]
  9. 2015-02-04 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] vitamins?
  10. 2015-02-04 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Essentail Database tools
  11. 2015-02-04 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [info-at-fsf.org: Gorgeous animated video against DRM]
  12. 2015-02-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Very Good Jobs
  13. 2015-02-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] sorry -n new postfix conf
  14. 2015-02-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [mrbrklyn-at-panix.com: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] sorry -n new postfix conf]
  15. 2015-02-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Shaping Up
  16. 2015-02-05 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Shaping Up
  17. 2015-02-05 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Shaping Up
  18. 2015-02-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Live vaudeville Theater opening in Brooklyn
  19. 2015-02-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] antartic Linux
  20. 2015-02-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  21. 2015-02-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: GNU education
  22. 2015-02-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: GNU education
  23. 2015-02-09 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: GNU education
  24. 2015-02-09 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: GNU education
  25. 2015-02-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Rafi from NYLUG
  26. 2015-02-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Shaping Up
  27. 2015-02-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Shaping Up
  28. 2015-02-09 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Email resend, warning - with headers
  29. 2015-02-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Email resend, warning - with headers
  30. 2015-02-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Article discussion
  31. 2015-02-10 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  32. 2015-02-10 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  33. 2015-02-10 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [elana-at-flatironschool.com: [nyc-on-rails] Meetup Cancelled: February
  34. 2015-02-10 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  35. 2015-02-10 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  36. 2015-02-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning Volunteer
  37. 2015-02-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Freee Software Job market
  38. 2015-02-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  39. 2015-02-11 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  40. 2015-02-11 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning Volunteer
  41. 2015-02-11 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning Volunteer
  42. 2015-02-11 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning Volunteer
  43. 2015-02-11 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning Volunteer
  44. 2015-02-11 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning Volunteer
  45. 2015-02-11 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning Volunteer
  46. 2015-02-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [LIU Comp Sci] Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning Volunteer
  47. 2015-02-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [LIU Comp Sci] Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning Volunteer
  48. 2015-02-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  49. 2015-02-11 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning Volunteer
  50. 2015-02-11 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  51. 2015-02-11 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  52. 2015-02-11 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning Volunteer
  53. 2015-02-11 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  54. 2015-02-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can
  55. 2015-02-12 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [dmarti-at-zgp.org: Re: [linux-elitists] Potential conference for 2015?]
  56. 2015-02-12 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [dmarti-at-zgp.org: [linux-elitists] Potential conference for 2015?]
  57. 2015-02-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  58. 2015-02-12 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] On the art of mailing lists
  59. 2015-02-12 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] And another thing
  60. 2015-02-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
  61. 2015-02-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] And another thing
  62. 2015-02-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] sorry - host looks ok?
  63. 2015-02-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Movie of the week
  64. 2015-02-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Article
  65. 2015-02-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Journal Article
  66. 2015-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Chinese Backdoors
  67. 2015-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Autoencryption and table security
  68. 2015-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] get off the grid
  69. 2015-02-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Matching this mailing list for procmail rules
  70. 2015-02-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Matching this mailing list for procmail rules
  71. 2015-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Matching this mailing list for procmail rules
  72. 2015-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Matching this mailing list for procmail rules
  73. 2015-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] fly anywahere robot
  74. 2015-02-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Matching this mailing list for procmail rules
  75. 2015-02-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Matching this mailing list for procmail rules
  76. 2015-02-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Matching this mailing list for procmail rules
  77. 2015-02-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Matching this mailing list for procmail rules
  78. 2015-02-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Matching this mailing list for procmail rules
  79. 2015-02-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Matching this mailing list for procmail rules
  80. 2015-02-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] CCNY Hackers Meeting Tomorrow
  81. 2015-02-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Matching this mailing list for procmail rules
  82. 2015-02-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Matching this mailing list for procmail rules
  83. 2015-02-17 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] systemd and process 1
  84. 2015-02-17 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] CCNY Hackers Meeting Tomorrow
  85. 2015-02-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Wayland support?
  86. 2015-02-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] CCNY Hackers Meeting Tomorrow
  87. 2015-02-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] CCNY Hackers Meeting Tomorrow
  88. 2015-02-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Meeting
  89. 2015-02-17 Michael Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Meeting
  90. 2015-02-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Meeting
  91. 2015-02-18 Michael Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Meeting
  92. 2015-02-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Meeting
  93. 2015-02-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Recursive Allorithms
  94. 2015-02-18 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] In New York City, Jobs Come Back Without Wall Street
  95. 2015-02-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] In New York City, Jobs Come Back Without Wall
  96. 2015-02-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] In New York City, Jobs Come Back Without Wall
  97. 2015-02-18 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [techinsider-at-ieee.org: Open Source Software Security - Mitigating
  98. 2015-02-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: Have you connected with your local Chapter?]
  99. 2015-02-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [techinsider-at-ieee.org: Open Source Software
  100. 2015-02-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [techinsider-at-ieee.org: Open Source Software
  101. 2015-02-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Meeting
  102. 2015-02-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] a little C++ insite
  103. 2015-02-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] movie of the week
  104. 2015-02-22 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] movie of the week
  105. 2015-02-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] movie of the week
  106. 2015-02-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Majordomo2: from-scratch improved version, real open source, still
  107. 2015-02-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] movie of the week
  108. 2015-02-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] movie of the week
  109. 2015-02-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Articles
  110. 2015-02-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] What Jews here??
  111. 2015-02-24 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [groups-noreply-at-linkedin.com: Great opportunity for QA Engineers in
  112. 2015-02-25 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Wayland support?
  113. 2015-02-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] one url
  114. 2015-02-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Entrepreneurship & Innovation March 2 & 3rd Pratt 110
  115. 2015-02-25 Ruben <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] movie of the week
  116. 2015-02-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Wayland support?
  117. 2015-02-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] funding sources
  118. 2015-02-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] movie of the week
  119. 2015-02-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Deadline Extended: Save $100 at Rock Stars of 3D Printing &
  120. 2015-02-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lenovo Superfish
  121. 2015-02-26 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lenovo Superfish
  122. 2015-02-26 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lenovo Superfish
  123. 2015-02-26 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lenovo Superfish
  124. 2015-02-26 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lenovo Superfish
  125. 2015-02-26 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] funding sources
  126. 2015-02-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] funding sources
  127. 2015-02-26 Michael Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bios
  128. 2015-02-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jobs
  129. 2015-02-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] shaping the future
  130. 2015-02-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] one more read
  131. 2015-02-26 Michael Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] look at your submissions
  132. 2015-02-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] look at your submissions
  133. 2015-02-26 Michael Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] look at your submissions
  134. 2015-02-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] look at your submissions
  135. 2015-02-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] look at your submissions
  136. 2015-02-26 Michael Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] look at your submissions
  137. 2015-02-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: GNU education
  138. 2015-02-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] look at your submissions
  139. 2015-02-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: IEEE Seminar Friday 27th, 2015
  140. 2015-02-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Spock
  141. 2015-02-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] a hate this question
  142. 2015-02-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Read the FUCKING NOTES
  143. 2015-02-27 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Read the FUCKING NOTES
  144. 2015-02-27 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Read the FUCKING NOTES
  145. 2015-02-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Gary McGraw Speaks
  146. 2015-02-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Read the FUCKING NOTES

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