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DATE | 2015-02-10 |
FROM | Elfen Magix
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
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Seeing the PDF, I see a major problem - its it stupid NYC Dept. of Education courses that I developed in the mid/late 1980s and all those bastages took it and took credit for my work.
In short, the mayor does not want community centers to be giving out technology courses without some sort of give to a school. It was bad when I left it, it is worse now. But to make how, this is what we need:
1) Location with machines. 2) Courses and course material. 3) something they can take home like projects, and a certificate which they can use for getting a so-called job.
Thus Linux or not, the courses need to be:
- Hardware setup and implementation - System Diagnostics and Repair - Security of systems (personal and servers) - Internet technology and programming
Then we can go into: - Robotics (Arduino hardware) - Robotics (Raspberry Pi hardware)
Though the Raspberry Pi is Linux on an ARM processor, it is 5X more expensive than the Arduino Amtel Microcontroller. Ebay has the R-Pi for $40, and the Arduino (Chinese Clones) for $8. And the Raspberry Pi needs other components to make it run, the Ardunio does not - outside of the additional pieces (not counting wires, breadboards, servoes, batteries, etc.). For a class of 20 students this would require $600 in hardware.
http://www.raspberrypi.org
http://www.arduino.cc
~Fernando
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What hackers meeting? What is his program? Where is his program? I've been doing community based computer training since the 1980s, but it is now that those in control want their palms greased and their names recognized as founders when they did nothing, is what is stopping me. The whole shit is corrupt. But if anyone want to start one, find me and we can sit down to discuss the details of what is involved and how much is costs. When and where is the next meeting? ~Fernando. >> -------------------------------------------- >> On Sun, 2/8/15, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate >> To: "hangout" >> Date: Sunday, February 8, 2015, 8:28 PM >> >> I ran into this guy at the hackers meeting and he has a working program >> in the Bronx that is getting education and employment to participants, >> and he is teaching GNU classes (not the list in the PDF attachment). >> >> I'd like to see how we can emulate this since it brings in income and is >> successful. >> >> Ruben
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