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| DATE | 2015-02-18 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [techinsider@ieee.org: Open Source Software
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:15:10 -0500
From: Ruben Safir
To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [techinsider-at-ieee.org: Open Source Software
Security - Mitigating Risks]
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:29:41AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> Quoting mrbrklyn-at-panix.com (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):
>
> > risks my ass ... anyway
>
> Did you notice that this IEEE newsletter uses outsourced 'bugged' HTML
> links and was _not_ actually sent by ieee.org as claimed in the From:
> header? The Internet marketing company being used in this case is one
> called Real Magnet (https://www.realmagnet.com), and this is a market
> specialty dominated by firms like Constant Contact.
>
I did notice that the email came from one of the mail blasting services
but I did not see that it was bugged, which now that you point it out,
really pisses me off. I've about had it with ieee. They have
emembership that worships them and my professor, Ping Chung, more or
less begged me to join ieee. He accumulates these placks of
accomplishments for his work in organizng dog a pony shows for ieee at
liu, and I wanted to participate, but all I see is spam, and a ton of
selfserving programs. I just don't see what possible benifit one can
get from them. they are like a frateraty strapped to Amway.
Additionally, I'm looking over the email and I have no idea who the hell
these guys are. Supposedly they are experts in Security and "Open
SOurce" software and I've never heard of them. they want to you to sign
up for a webcast ... ugggg on March 4th. You know what, nobody i would
respect in IT would listen to such a webcast on March 4th.
Meanwhile, they sent me another email asking if I reached out to my
local group yet. Really? I signed up with them and never got a single
email. The LIU centered group insists that they have to do meetings on
Friday evenings... There are no Jews in Brooklyn evidently.
Attached is the email i sent back to contact address that was in the
email asking about local groups.
If there is a usefulness to ieee, I have yet to figure out the angle.
Ruben
> The way this deal works is: Say you are an IEEE functionary who wants
> to send out an e-mail newsletter. You pay Real Magnet money every month
> to send your mails for you, forging your SMTP headers. The value-add
> they offer is: spying on user.
>
> An intuitive interface allows you to get up and running quickly. Easy
> to use, flexible tools make message creation and list management a snap.
> Dozens of standardized reports bubble up key metrics, and custom
> reporting allows for advanced analytics. It's no wonder that
> thousands of organizations are using Real Magnet to achieve their
> marketing goals.
>
> https://www.realmagnet.com/solutions/email-marketing/
>
> The 'advanced metrics' is courtesy of URLs like this:
>
> > OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE SECURITY - MITIGATING RISKS FROM DEVELOPMENT, INTEGRATION, DISTRIBUTION AND DEPLOYMENT
> > [ http://www.mmsend10.com/link.cfm?r=1869160560&sid=67071139&m=9078502&u=IEEENY&j=25983285&s=https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=reg20.jsp&eventid=941178&sessionid=1&key=F917DF24F5D50AA033180CAE72892E6A&partnerref=ieee&sourcepage=register ]
> >
> > For full article, go to
> > http://www.mmsend10.com/link.cfm?r=1869160560&sid=67071140&m=9078502&u=IEEENY&j=25983285&s=http://newsmanager.commpartners.com/ieeetiws/issues/2015-03-04.html
>
> The point is that the long hash values included in every URL sent to the
> subscriber are unique to each newsletter recipient. Thus, Real Magnet
> is able to log the unique identity of which subscriber each logged click
> came from. They are able to know that it's _you_ (or someone you
> forwarded your e-mail to) at 9:43AM and 13 seconds who clicked on this
> link, and then you proceeded to this other link a few seconds later, and
> so on -- extremely detailed and individualised behavioural tracking.
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:47:46 -0500
From: Ruben Safir
To: e.berkowitz-at-computer.org
Cc: mrbrklyn-at-panix.com
Subject: Re: Have you connected with your local Chapter?
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This is just another useless email from ieee.
The local society, I suppose is Dr Chung Ping'ss work at Long Island University.
He schedules everything on Friday nights which is USELESS in NYC since
so many of us are Jewish and at the Sabbath Table, and the rest of the
city is drunk...
Stop. If you can't give me specifically useful information, then the
ieee has no point. You tell me where the Brooklyn Chapter is and their
schedule.
And please, stop sending html based mail. Between the html mail and the
poorly designed website, you guys are driving me crazy.
You want to help me? I have a meeting on Thursday Night for the NYLXS
Journal. You can show up and contribute a Journal article or do some
editing.
Ruben Safir
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:26:13AM -0500, IEEE Computer Society wrote:
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> Dear Ruben Safir,
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> One of the many benefits of your IEEE Computer Society Membership is the ability to connect with other members who live nearby through Chapter participation. Computer Society members organize locally to support their career development, network for professional and personal growth, and exchange information and expertise. Chapters provide opportunities to learn from the experiences of fellow professionals and students, and membership in your local Chapter is free.
>
et et et
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