MESSAGE
| DATE | 2015-02-12 |
| FROM | Rick Moen
|
| SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] On the art of mailing lists
|
From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Thu Feb 12 02:47:52 2015
Return-Path:
X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com
Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com
Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix)
id 76BD5161303; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 02:47:52 -0500 (EST)
Delivered-To: hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com
Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 28)
id 67421161305; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 02:47:52 -0500 (EST)
Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Received: from linuxmafia.com (linuxmafia.COM [198.144.195.186])
by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B4E161303
for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 02:47:50 -0500 (EST)
Received: from rick by linuxmafia.com with local (Exim 4.72)
(envelope-from )
id 1YLoV3-0003gU-3q
for hangout-at-nylxs.com; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:47:49 -0800
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:47:49 -0800
From: Rick Moen
To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] On the art of mailing lists
Message-ID: <20150212074749.GH10984-at-linuxmafia.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Disposition: inline
Organization: If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
X-Mas: Bah humbug.
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14)
X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP:
X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: rick-at-linuxmafia.com
X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on linuxmafia.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false
Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Ruben mentioned this mailing list by its LHS name only ('hangout' \n 'NYLXS')
on Don Marti's linux-elitists mailing list. (Gosh, Ruben, a URL was too
much trouble?)
I looked around. I found http://www.nylxs.com/mailing.html . It says:
> The Main NYLXS Mailing List is Hangout. [...]
1. Page doesn't say what the actual mailing list address is. This
omission is a significant error, and should be fixed. There's a form to
subscribe. Used that. No feedback whatsoever about what the mailing
list address is.
2. Got a confirm mail from Majordomo-Owner-at-mrbrklyn.com. Oh, so
maybe it's hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com or hangout-at-lists.rbrklyn.com. Can't
tell yet. But we're already up to two Internet domains.
Oh, wait, the body of the confirmation message says:
Someone (possibly you) has requested that your email address be added
to or deleted from the mailing list "hangout-at-www.mrbrklyn.com".
If you really want this action to be taken, please send the following
commands (exactly as shown) back to "Majordomo-at-www.mrbrklyn.com":
Ah, now we're up to three hostnames, and it's increasingly unclear what
the actual mailing list address is, as nothing clarifies that. This
omission is a significant error, and should be fixed.
3. Sent confirmation. Got welcome message. Which doesn't state what
the mailing list addresss is. This omission is a significant error, and
should be fixed.
4. Not very coincidentally, Ruben posted just after I joined. Ah, the
haplessly inept failure to state the mailing list address will be
mitigated, right. Sort of.
Let's look at Ruben's headers. Those should clarify things:
To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Message-ID: <20150212071444.GC16612-at-www.mrbrklyn.com>
Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Wow, that's just totally messed up -- not even counting the
acute embarrassment of Reply-To munging in 2015.
Ruben, you should make up your mind what the mailing list's address is,
and make your MLM and MTA use it.
I suspect you've never fixed this and never will, ultimately because you
don't care. Which is sad.
--
Cheers, If you're going to play the game properly,
Rick Moen you'd better know every rule.
rick-at-linuxmafia.com -- Sen. Barbara Jordan (D-Texas)
McQ! (4x80)
|
|
