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|SUBJECT ||Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] On the art of mailing lists
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From: Rick Moen
Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] On the art of mailing lists
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Organization: If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
X-Mas: Bah humbug.
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Ruben mentioned this mailing list by its LHS name only ('hangout' \n 'NYLXS')
on Don Marti's linux-elitists mailing list. (Gosh, Ruben, a URL was too
I looked around. I found http://www.nylxs.com/mailing.html . It says:
> The Main NYLXS Mailing List is Hangout. [...]
1. Page doesn't say what the actual mailing list address is. This
omission is a significant error, and should be fixed. There's a form to
subscribe. Used that. No feedback whatsoever about what the mailing
list address is.
2. Got a confirm mail from Majordomo-Owner-at-mrbrklyn.com. Oh, so
maybe it's hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com or hangout-at-lists.rbrklyn.com. Can't
tell yet. But we're already up to two Internet domains.
Oh, wait, the body of the confirmation message says:
Someone (possibly you) has requested that your email address be added
to or deleted from the mailing list "hangout-at-www.mrbrklyn.com".
If you really want this action to be taken, please send the following
commands (exactly as shown) back to "Majordomo-at-www.mrbrklyn.com":
Ah, now we're up to three hostnames, and it's increasingly unclear what
the actual mailing list address is, as nothing clarifies that. This
omission is a significant error, and should be fixed.
3. Sent confirmation. Got welcome message. Which doesn't state what
the mailing list addresss is. This omission is a significant error, and
should be fixed.
4. Not very coincidentally, Ruben posted just after I joined. Ah, the
haplessly inept failure to state the mailing list address will be
mitigated, right. Sort of.
Let's look at Ruben's headers. Those should clarify things:
Wow, that's just totally messed up -- not even counting the
acute embarrassment of Reply-To munging in 2015.
Ruben, you should make up your mind what the mailing list's address is,
and make your MLM and MTA use it.
I suspect you've never fixed this and never will, ultimately because you
don't care. Which is sad.
Cheers, If you're going to play the game properly,
Rick Moen you'd better know every rule.
rick-at-linuxmafia.com -- Sen. Barbara Jordan (D-Texas)