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DATE | 2017-06-03 |
FROM | Rick Moen
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SUBJECT | Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] (forw) Re: [skeptic] FWD: Fleeing the Paris
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sat Jun 3 16:18:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: archive-at-nylxs.com Received: from www.mrbrklyn.com (www.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F7B160876; Sat, 3 Jun 2017 16:18:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: from linuxmafia.com (linuxmafia.COM [198.144.195.186]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B7E160876 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2017 16:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rick by linuxmafia.com with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1dHFUu-00053E-W2 for hangout-at-nylxs.com; Sat, 03 Jun 2017 13:18:09 -0700 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 13:18:08 -0700 From: Rick Moen To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Message-ID: <20170603201808.GD17711-at-linuxmafia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Organization: If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already. X-Mas: Bah humbug. X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: rick-at-linuxmafia.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on linuxmafia.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] (forw) Re: [skeptic] FWD: Fleeing the Paris Accord Makes Scientific Sense | RealClearScience X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 12:25:04 -0700 From: Rick Moen To: skeptic-at-linuxmafia.com Subject: Re: [skeptic] FWD: Fleeing the Paris Accord Makes Scientific Sense | RealClearScience Organization: If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
Quoting Wade T Smith (skepticus-at-earthlink.net):
> [This may well be a quasi-sane stance, although it ain=E2=80=99t an appro= ach, > really. Regardless of whether we=E2=80=99re doing it or not, we do see > definite omens in the decades of climate variation we=E2=80=99ve managed = to > record, and it may well be a dire need to direct activities to > respond.]
I wish to make a different point on this matter, one I believe I've made before but that appears to bear repeating: People need to learn to stop assuming that Trump Executive Orders are real.
Seriously. Just about every time Trump has had a huge press event and (in most cases) signing ceremony, the press takes the claimed decision seriously and reports it as news, without bothering to check whether the claimed action _does anything_. Upon belated examination, it very often turns out that the order's language is so vague as to be meaningless in the real world, or that it purports to take actions outside the President's authority entirely. =
Many examples could be cited, but one of them would be the Executive Order requiring Federal monies to be denied to 'sanctuary cities'. The order nowhere defined that term, hence it was meaningless from the get-go, and also turned out to violate vast amounts of caselaw plus, of all things, the Tenth Amendment, sacred to American conservatives for hundreds of years.
It's no accidents that Dolt-45's most consistent roadblock has been the courts, because they by definition are resistent to humbuggery on legal issues.
Specifically about the Paris Accord, withdrawing from it requires a four-year notification process. This vital fact was reported fourteen paragraphs down in a _New York Times_ story, and then highlighted by the ever-useful Palmer Report: http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/2021-trump-climate/3231/
As Bill Palmer & co. point out, Trump's alleged decision decides nothing. Withdrawing or not withdrawing would be up to whoever is seated as President in January 2021.
Stop. Assuming. Trump. Executive. Orders. Are. Real.
He's a con-artist. He was always a con-artist. He's never been anything but a con-artist, and now he's senile, to boot. Just like his core constituency.
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