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DATE 2017-06-03
FROM Rick Moen
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] (forw) Re: [skeptic] FWD: Fleeing the Paris
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----- Forwarded message from Rick Moen -----

Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 12:25:04 -0700
From: Rick Moen
To: skeptic-at-linuxmafia.com
Subject: Re: [skeptic] FWD: Fleeing the Paris Accord Makes Scientific Sense
| RealClearScience
Organization: If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.

Quoting Wade T Smith (skepticus-at-earthlink.net):

> [This may well be a quasi-sane stance, although it ain=E2=80=99t an appro=
ach,
> really. Regardless of whether we=E2=80=99re doing it or not, we do see
> definite omens in the decades of climate variation we=E2=80=99ve managed =
to
> record, and it may well be a dire need to direct activities to
> respond.]

I wish to make a different point on this matter, one I believe I've made
before but that appears to bear repeating: People need to learn to stop
assuming that Trump Executive Orders are real.

Seriously. Just about every time Trump has had a huge press event and
(in most cases) signing ceremony, the press takes the claimed decision
seriously and reports it as news, without bothering to check whether the
claimed action _does anything_. Upon belated examination, it very often
turns out that the order's language is so vague as to be meaningless in
the real world, or that it purports to take actions outside the
President's authority entirely. =


Many examples could be cited, but one of them would be the Executive
Order requiring Federal monies to be denied to 'sanctuary cities'. The
order nowhere defined that term, hence it was meaningless from the
get-go, and also turned out to violate vast amounts of caselaw plus,
of all things, the Tenth Amendment, sacred to American conservatives for
hundreds of years.

It's no accidents that Dolt-45's most consistent roadblock has been the
courts, because they by definition are resistent to humbuggery on legal
issues.


Specifically about the Paris Accord, withdrawing from it requires a
four-year notification process. This vital fact was reported fourteen
paragraphs down in a _New York Times_ story, and then highlighted by the
ever-useful Palmer Report:
http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/2021-trump-climate/3231/

As Bill Palmer & co. point out, Trump's alleged decision decides
nothing. Withdrawing or not withdrawing would be up to whoever is
seated as President in January 2021.

Stop. Assuming. Trump. Executive. Orders. Are. Real.

He's a con-artist. He was always a con-artist. He's never been
anything but a con-artist, and now he's senile, to boot. Just like his
core constituency.

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  108. 2017-06-23 Matthew Giassa <matthew-at-giassa.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  109. 2017-06-23 Preston Crow <pc-crossfire06-at-crowcastle.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Crossfire maps idea
  110. 2017-06-23 David Hurst <davidnicholashurst-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  111. 2017-06-23 Rick Tanner <leaf-at-real-time.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  112. 2017-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  113. 2017-06-23 From: "Meaningful Beauty" <MeaningfulBeauty-at-islerpatto.stream> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Youthful looking Skin + Free-Shipping
  114. 2017-06-23 David Hurst <davidnicholashurst-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  115. 2017-06-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] TED on the threat of AI in the Military
  116. 2017-06-26 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #309 - csvgrep and the recipe for
  117. 2017-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fishing images
  118. 2017-06-26 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [security-announce] SUSE-SU-2017:1669-1:
  119. 2017-06-26 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [security-announce] openSUSE-SU-2017:1685-1:
  120. 2017-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fishing images
  121. 2017-06-26 Rick Tanner <leaf-at-real-time.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  122. 2017-06-26 Rick Tanner <leaf-at-real-time.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Expanded World Map (was: Release
  123. 2017-06-26 Rick Tanner <leaf-at-real-time.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Crossfire maps idea
  124. 2017-06-27 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Score: 9 - 0 ! WIN ! on SCOTUS
  125. 2017-06-23 From: "NYU Langone Careers" <nyumccareers-at-symphonytalent.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Follow up from NYU Langone Medical Center
  126. 2017-06-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] family in need
  127. 2017-06-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] A train derailment
  128. 2017-06-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] A train derailment
  129. 2017-06-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Must See website
  130. 2017-06-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] A train derailment
  131. 2017-06-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: [manjaro-general] Manjaro-Architect ISO
  132. 2017-06-29 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] time to put down the phone
  133. 2017-06-29 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lottery programmer rigs systems in 4 states,
  134. 2017-06-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dinosaur found in Amber

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