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DATE 2004-05-26
FROM Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] FREE PHP DAMN IT
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What nees to be done?

On Tue, 25 May 2004, Ruben I Safir wrote:

>
> This article needs our involvement because there are essentially complaing that Because MYSQL uses the GPL, it is a problem with PHP (which is NOT FREE SOFTWARE). Monty needs our support
>
> Ruben
>
>
> http://internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3358061
> May 24, 2004
> Latest MySQL Fails to Quiet Licensing Critics
> By Sean Michael Kerner
>
> Open Source database vendor MySQL AB released its latest incremental release last week (version 4.0.20), but according to some in the community, it still doesn't address what some say serious licensing concerns.
>
> The licensing issue prevents it from being included in some Linux distributions and working together, from a licensing perspective, with PHP. Last week, Red Hat's community Fedora Project released Fedora Core 2 and for all of its updated and improved packages, it had one notable omission: the 4.x version of MySQL.
>
> "Currently, MySQL is not included in Fedora Core 2 due to conflicts with the MySQL licensing scheme," Fedora Project volunteer Jack Aboutboul told internetnews.com. "The change in licensing from LGPL to GPL now prohibits inclusion of MySQL code in any software that is not explicitly licensed under the GPL, such as PHP."
>
> MySQL AB changed the license on some of its included software libraries from the less restrictive LGPL to GPL last year. One of the fundamental differences between the two licenses is that with the LGPL, non-GPL or proprietary software may be tightly linked with it, which is not the case with GPL licensed software. MySQL came up with something called the FOSS licensing exception in March, which was supposed to alleviate the problem.
>
> One of the programs that was most strongly affected by MySQL's licensing shift is the PHP open source programming language, and part of the LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) acronym that dominates much of open source development.
>
> In an e-mail interview with PHP and Zend co-founders Andi Gutmans and Zeev Suraski said they still have concerns with MySQL's licensing. "From a strict legal standpoint, the MySQL FOSS still does not solve all of the problems with the new MySQL licensing," Gutmans said.
>
> The PHP founders acknowledged that MySQL's FOSS exception lists most of the open source licenses in use today. However, they claim, it still poses a significant issue for certain applications.
>
> "Effectively, the FOSS prevents people from using closed-source software in conjunction with the MySQL client library, without purchasing a license," Gutmans explained. "While it might sound reasonable at first, effectively, this is a very odd clause that, if taken seriously by MySQL (the company), poses a serious limitation on the ability of users to develop and distribute MySQL based applications."
>
> The two cited numerous examples where an environment has MySQL and and PHP that may be linked to other third party closed libraries like Java VM or an Oracle Server.
>
> According to Gutmans, "PHP's tolerance to closed-source software is, at least theoretically, impaired by the complete lack of tolerance for closed-source software of the MySQL client library, even when one has nothing to do with the other."
>
> They do not believe that the MySQL licensing shift was an intentional ruse to collect money from true open source users of the software.
>
> "Our understanding is that they're trying to make sure that the ones who are really selling MySQL-based applications have to pay," Gutmans said. "However, the way the FOSS is phrased right now, even common people that don't want to sell MySQL or anything similar can be hurt."
>
> Suraski and Gutmans said they had discussed the issue with the MySQL team and they are aware of the issue and are continuing to try and fix the problem. In their view, MySQL AB wants to fix the problem, "but they still haven't managed to reach a consensus with their lawyers on how to fix it without taking a risk."
>
> Developers need not shy away from MySQL in light of this situation according to the PHP founders, especially since in their view the issues are unintentional.
>
> "But developers who don't feel comfortable with the FOSS the way it is now definitely have the option of using another solution, be it PostgreSQL or something else," Gutmans said.
>
> PostgreSQL may, in fact, be a beneficiary of MySQL's licensing issues, at least if you believe the PostgreSQL people. According to Josh Berkus, a member of the PostgreSQL core team, based on 'anecdotal evidence' there has been an increase in PostgreSQL downloads since the licensing issue emerged. However, Berkus admits that he can't prove it with hard numbers.
>
> "Since our downloads are heavily mirrored, and our last new version coincided with the MySQL licensing problems, it's a little hard to prove it empirically," Berkus said. "I will say, officially, that PostgreSQL is BSD-licensed, we have always been BSD-licensed, and nobody has ever been compelled to pay a single penny for a 'commercial license' from us. Many people and companies turn to PostgreSQL in order to achieve complete freedom from licensing hassles."
>
> Fedora Project community spokesperson Jack Aboutboul won't be switching to PostgresSQL. "At this time, migration to Postgres is unnecessary," he said. "Users can continue to use MySQL 3.x, and hopefully by FC3, this issue will be resolved. In a sentence, it's not that we don't want to include MySQL, it's just that nothing was released using the license exception that's usable to us."
>
> Not all Linux distributions have the same opinion on the issue. The latest release of Novell SUSE, version 9.1, includes MySQL 4.x.
>
> The Swedish-based MySQL is usually touted as being an open source success story with it dual licensing scheme that allows it be open source as well as a commercial product. At a recent users conference in Orlando (), MySQL AB unveiled its latest technological innovation: a clustering version intended to significantly improve database availability and performance.
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  1. 2004-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Free Software Guest Speaker
  2. 2004-05-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Winter International Symposium on Information and Communication Technologies [info-at-intsymict.org]
  3. 2004-05-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: I want to donate computers
  4. 2004-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Kings Games Payment
  5. 2004-05-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] RE: my toshiba drive
  6. 2004-05-27 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [hangout] RE: my toshiba drive
  7. 2004-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: my toshiba drive
  8. 2004-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: my toshiba drive
  9. 2004-05-27 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  10. 2004-05-27 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [hangout] RE: my toshiba drive
  11. 2004-05-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: I want to donate computers
  12. 2004-05-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  13. 2004-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  14. 2004-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  15. 2004-05-27 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  16. 2004-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  17. 2004-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  18. 2004-05-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  19. 2004-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: I want to donate computers
  20. 2004-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MICROSOFT Contracts
  21. 2004-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  22. 2004-05-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  23. 2004-05-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  24. 2004-05-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] PERL/JAVA Integration Position (onsite), United States, NEW YORK, NEW YORK [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  25. 2004-05-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Free SuSE/Ximian/Novell Tech Software and Tech Resource Kit Offer [gdye-at-novell.com]
  26. 2004-05-26 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  27. 2004-05-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Why don;t they just call it an anti-semestic act...
  28. 2004-05-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Linux Journal Weekly Newsletter - May 26 [html-at-ssc.com]
  29. 2004-05-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: gtk client
  30. 2004-05-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FREE PHP DAMN IT
  31. 2004-05-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FREE PHP DAMN IT
  32. 2004-05-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  33. 2004-05-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PC Makers' Love For Linux Boosts Piracy
  34. 2004-05-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software from a Medical View
  35. 2004-05-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Comcast IS EVIL
  36. 2004-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] gtk client
  37. 2004-05-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FREE PHP DAMN IT
  38. 2004-05-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  39. 2004-05-25 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] my toshiba drive
  40. 2004-05-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Free SuSE/Ximian/Novell Tech Software and Tech Resource Kit Offer [gdye-at-novell.com]
  41. 2004-05-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First look: Sun Java Desktop System Release 2
  42. 2004-05-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First look: Sun Java Desktop System Release 2
  43. 2004-05-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PC Makers' Love For Linux Boosts Piracy
  44. 2004-05-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Free SuSE/Ximian/Novell Tech Software and Tech Resource Kit Offer [gdye-at-novell.com]
  45. 2004-05-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Checking back in [lara-at-optimumdc.com]
  46. 2004-05-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] First look: Sun Java Desktop System Release 2
  47. 2004-05-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] PC Makers' Love For Linux Boosts Piracy
  48. 2004-05-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU/Linux and Counter Culture
  49. 2004-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Desktops in the news for Business: Fedora Core evaluation
  50. 2004-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] UPS and Free Software - When it absolutely, positively - well you know the routine....
  51. 2004-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO andGNU/Linux - News from Utah
  52. 2004-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] France - Not safe at any price...
  53. 2004-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux News
  54. 2004-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Technite
  55. 2004-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Technite
  56. 2004-05-23 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Technite
  57. 2004-05-23 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Technite
  58. 2004-05-23 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Technite
  59. 2004-05-23 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Technite
  60. 2004-05-23 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite
  61. 2004-05-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perfect Game
  62. 2004-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell's Linux Progress
  63. 2004-05-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] reference for kernel Bug with mikes microtel machine
  64. 2004-05-21 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Viacom Pricing on Freedom-IT Ads
  65. 2004-05-21 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Bar Mitzva Invitation
  66. 2004-05-21 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] New Linux PC Online Vendor (Could be worth a shot)
  67. 2004-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bar Mitzva Invitation
  68. 2004-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Viacom Pricing on Freedom-IT Ads
  69. 2004-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  70. 2004-05-20 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  71. 2004-05-20 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] ELECTION RESULTS
  72. 2004-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] windows server 2003 vs Linux
  73. 2004-05-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] windows server 2003 vs Linux
  74. 2004-05-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] PearPC 0.1: Is It A Miracle?
  75. 2004-05-19 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] windows server 2003 vs Linux
  76. 2004-05-19 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] windows server 2003 vs Linux
  77. 2004-05-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Putty & Suse 9.1 OpenSSH
  78. 2004-05-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] windows server 2003 vs Linux
  79. 2004-05-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] windows server 2003 vs Linux
  80. 2004-05-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [krahmer-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: cvs (SuSE-SA:2004:013)]
  81. 2004-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Great Bumper Stickers!
  82. 2004-05-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Great Bumper Stickers!
  83. 2004-05-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] UNIGROUP OF NEW YORK - UNIX USERS GROUP - MAY 2004 MEETING
  84. 2004-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Correction Re: [hangout] x terminal not working.
  85. 2004-05-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] WWWAC and You at CeBIT America - 5/25-27 (fwd)
  86. 2004-05-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: number 3 Correction Re: [hangout] x terminal not working.
  87. 2004-05-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> number 2 Correction Re: [hangout] x terminal not working.
  88. 2004-05-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Correction Re: [hangout] x terminal not working.
  89. 2004-05-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] x terminal not working.
  90. 2004-05-18 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: Correction RE: [hangout] General Meeting and Board Meeting - May 12, 2004 RE CAP
  91. 2004-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Correction RE: [hangout] General Meeting and Board Meeting - May 12, 2004 RE CAP
  92. 2004-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Correction RE: [hangout] General Meeting and Board Meeting - May 12, 2004 RE CAP
  93. 2004-05-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: Correction RE: [hangout] General Meeting and Board Meeting - May
  94. 2004-05-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Correction RE: [hangout] General Meeting and Board Meeting - May
  95. 2004-05-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] General Meeting and Board Meeting - May 12, 2004 RE
  96. 2004-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Google Changes
  97. 2004-05-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Night Recap
  98. 2004-05-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Night Recap
  99. 2004-05-17 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [hangout] Tech Night Recap
  100. 2004-05-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] ELECTION RESULTS
  101. 2004-05-17 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] ELECTION RESULTS
  102. 2004-05-16 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 9.1 box set
  103. 2004-05-16 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Suse 9.1 box set
  104. 2004-05-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Free Software E-comerce solution
  105. 2004-05-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] ELECTION RESULTS
  106. 2004-05-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] General Meeting and Board Meeting - May 12, 2004 RECAP
  107. 2004-05-14 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> RE: [hangout] Fw: Re: Last night's service at CVS
  108. 2004-05-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: Re: Last night's service at CVS
  109. 2004-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Fw: Re: Last night's service at CVS
  110. 2004-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: mc
  111. 2004-05-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Fw: Re: Last night's service at CVS
  112. 2004-05-14 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Fw: Re: Last night's service at CVS
  113. 2004-05-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Help File Library: Slackware: The Quick and Dirty Quide to Packag es
  114. 2004-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell releases Connector for Exchange under GPL
  115. 2004-05-13 Walt Costanza <wjc-at-retsambew.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Mandrakelinux NWL: EU Software Patent Legislation: a real threat for Linux and Open Source
  116. 2004-05-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] ELECTION RESULTS
  117. 2004-05-13 Spidey309-at-aol.com
  118. 2004-05-13 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] ELECTION RESULTS
  119. 2004-05-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Need New CEO of Brooklyn
  120. 2004-05-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] General Meeting and Board Meeting - May 12, 2004 RECAP
  121. 2004-05-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Beer Sayings
  122. 2004-05-12 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Novell releases Connector for Exchange under GPL
  123. 2004-05-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell releases Connector for Exchange under GPL
  124. 2004-05-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tonights meeting...
  125. 2004-05-12 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Tonights meeting...
  126. 2004-05-12 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Tonights meeting...
  127. 2004-05-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Tonights meeting...
  128. 2004-05-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Tonights meeting...
  129. 2004-05-12 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Tonights meeting...
  130. 2004-05-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell releases Connector for Exchange under GPL
  131. 2004-05-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wed meeting location change
  132. 2004-05-12 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wed meeting location change
  133. 2004-05-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wed meeting location change
  134. 2004-05-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: [hangout] Elections
  135. 2004-05-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wed meeting location change
  136. 2004-05-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wed meeting location change
  137. 2004-05-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wed meeting location change
  138. 2004-05-11 Peter Siegel <psiegel-at-copper.net> Re: [hangout] Wed meeting location change
  139. 2004-05-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Wed meeting location change
  140. 2004-05-11 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [hangout] HP and GNU/Linux
  141. 2004-05-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] HP and GNU/Linux
  142. 2004-05-11 Spidey309-at-aol.com Fwd: [hangout] Elections
  143. 2004-05-11 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Elections
  144. 2004-05-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] HP and GNU/Linux
  145. 2004-05-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Anyone ever see this?
  146. 2004-05-11 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Mandrake, SuSE Offer New Linux Features
  147. 2004-05-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Miguel de Icaza: Rest of the World to Eventually Force US Into Li nux
  148. 2004-05-10 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Well done
  149. 2004-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl Programming Job with mod_perl and apache
  150. 2004-05-09 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Night this Sunday at Kings Games? Yes? No?
  151. 2004-05-08 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Night this Sunday at Kings Games? Yes? No?
  152. 2004-05-08 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] General Membership and Board Meeting
  153. 2004-05-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] General Meeting
  154. 2004-05-07 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] General Meeting
  155. 2004-05-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] General Meeting
  156. 2004-05-07 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] General Meeting
  157. 2004-05-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Gartner: Worms Jack Up the Total Cost of Windows
  158. 2004-05-07 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] General Meeting
  159. 2004-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Political Culture and Free Software
  160. 2004-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Advocates want greater Software Priracy policing
  161. 2004-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Libraries running on Free Software
  162. 2004-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Ethics
  163. 2004-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Ipod
  164. 2004-05-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Freedom-IT planning meeting
  165. 2004-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: Live CD 9.1 (SuSE-SA:2004:011) [draht-at-suse.de]
  166. 2004-05-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] N.Y.'s Top Outdoor Escapes
  167. 2004-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: vague interview opener questions are irksome [ask-at-develooper.com]
  168. 2004-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Richard Weinberger
  169. 2004-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [EmperorLinux-Lincolns-Logbook] How do I pick a new Linux Laptop system and distro? [lincoln-at-EmperorLinux.com]
  170. 2004-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More on Redhat Desktops
  171. 2004-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Job Leads
  172. 2004-05-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Desktop Linux Solutions
  173. 2004-05-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl / MySQL programmer for ad serving company (onsite), United States, New York, New York]
  174. 2004-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [nycsmalltalk] OpenSkills Skillsbase Project presentation [charles-at-ocit.com]
  175. 2004-05-01 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Freedom-IT Publicity
  176. 2004-05-13 Spidey309-at-aol.com
  177. 2004-05-13 Spidey309-at-aol.com
  178. 2004-05-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [dank-at-kegel.com: [Lula] Novell User Group looking for a Linux presentation]

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