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SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement
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Title Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement
Date 2004.11.17 12:00
Author StoneLion
Topic
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/11/16/1544210

The OpenBSD team earlier this month released
version 3.6
of the free operating system, with support for more hardware, updated
application software, and bug fixes included. This time around OpenBSD has
added support for multi-CPU systems, a number of drivers for new peripheral
hardware, and about 200 more applications to the Ports tree. We took the new
version for a spin, and liked what we found.


Since we've previously reviewed
OpenBSD 3.5,
we won't repeat everything, but here is a quick list of the general features
intrinsic to the operating system:

* OpenBSD is secure by default -- in other words, the base system that
you install will not have any security flaws or enabled services that could
compromise the integrity of your system.

* OpenBSD is easy to install, set up, and use, but it's all done from
the command line. If you want to learn and use OpenBSD, you'd better be
familiar with the man command.

* The documentation via the manual pages is superb.

* All of the software you'll need to run a Web, mail, NFS, DHCP, or
file server is installed and ready to be configured and enabled.

* New programs are easy to install, update, and manage through the
Ports system.

* OpenBSD includes integrated
cryptography, which is used by some parts of the base system to enhance
security.

OpenBSD doesn't necessarily make as complete a desktop system as FreeBSD or
one of the desktop GNU/Linux distributions does, but you
can
certainly use it to get email, chat on IRC, browse the Web, or write a book.
There are no hardware accelerated drivers for Nvidia, ATI, or Intel video
chips, so 3D games are out of the question, but you can still get good color
depth and resolution in X11 for 2D applications. Desktop environments like
KDE 3.2.3 and GNOME 2.6.2 are available through the Ports system, as are
several window managers and a host of GUI-based programs that run in them.
In all there are more than 2,700 programs in the OpenBSD 3.6 Ports tree
which, unlike FreeBSD's Ports tree, remains static for each release. In
other words, OpenBSD Ports follows the same release schedule that the base
system does, as opposed to the maintainers updating the Ports as they see
fit. This means that you'll be stuck with the same software versions until
the next release (six months), but it also means that each OpenBSD
installation will have exactly the same software on it, providing a
standard, stable environment for sysadmins.

The quickest way to get OpenBSD 3.6 is through an FTP install. You download
a small CD ISO or diskette image, boot from it, then download the
installation sets from the OpenBSD FTP servers. Every time I try this I have
some kind of problem, but the CD set always works perfectly on my systems.

Speaking of which, the OpenBSD 3.6 CD set
is an inexpensive $45 (or 45
euros). Anyone seriously
considering OpenBSD on the i386, SPARC/SPARC64, AMD64, VAX, or macPPC
architectures will find the CD set to be a much more convenient and speedy
method of installation.

OpenBSD's installation routine is spartan, but quick and simple. It's merely
a script that goes through each step of a complete installation or upgrade
of the base system. Depending on the speed of your computer and the size of
your hard drive, installation can take between 10 and 30 minutes, and
upgrades will usually take about half that. The upgrade script unfortunately
does not upgrade precompiled application packages or any programs that
you've installed through Ports, and there is no Portupgrade program to
automate this process as there is in FreeBSD. To upgrade your programs,
you'll have to reinstall each one individually -- not difficult to do, but
certainly tedious if you have a number of programs on your system. Some
people prefer to deinstall all packages prior to the upgrade, then reinstall
the new versions afterward. Packages are not as easy to get from the FTP
repository as Ports are, but are much quicker to install on slower systems
and easier to distribute to multiple installations.

If you choose to upgrade your Ports after the upgrade, you can run the
/usr/ports/infrastructure/build/out-of-date script to determine which ones
need to be upgraded, then locate each one and deinstall and reinstall it.

New in 3.6

Included with the standard installation are OpenSSH 3.9 (OpenSSH is part of
the OpenBSD project) and OpenSSL 0.9.7d; GCC 2.95.3 and 3.3.2 with the
ProPolice add-on installed
and enabled by default; Perl 5.8.5; Apache 1.3.29 with default chrooting
, privilege revocation,
mod_ssl 2.8.16 and DSO support; Sendmail 8.13.0 with libmilter
; BIND 9.2.3; Heimdal 0.6rc1; and a customized fork
of XFree86 4.4.0 without the new, more restrictive licensing. Other packages
like Lynx and Sudo are also included, and most of the above-listed programs
include specialized patches from the OpenBSD team to enhance security and
functionality.

Hands On

I tested out OpenBSD 3.6 on my most temperamental system: a Dell Inspiron
3800 laptop. I had no trouble with my PCMCIA Xircom wired or Linksys
wireless network cards, nor did I have any trouble switching between the
two. I could install and use XFree86 without any trouble, and everything
seemed to work just as perfectly as it did in the previous release. I didn't
have any multi-CPU systems running the new SMP support on either the AMD64
or i386 editions.

The OpenBSD project cannot guarantee the security of programs in the Ports
tree, but they do make an effort to ensure that obviously insecure programs
don't make it into Ports. If a security bulletin is sent out about programs
in either the base system or Ports, OpenBSD provides patches individually or
as a separate branch of the entire project. The process for applying a
single patch is detailed at the top of each patch file, making installation
as easy as following a couple of lines of instructions. As of this writing
there are no listed security bulletins, but if there are, they'd appear here
.

The PATCH branch of OpenBSD is one of three separate yet related divisions
of the project. The first and most obvious is RELEASE, which remains
consistent throughout the six-month lifespan of an official OpenBSD release.
PATCH is RELEASE plus any security updates, and is updated as patches are
released. The third branch is CURRENT, which is the cutting edge of OpenBSD
development. Obviously you don't want to run in-development code on a
production machine, so CURRENT is really only useful to people interested in
contributing to the project. These branches are not isolated to the base
system; they also include the entire Ports tree.

Conclusions

I'm certain the OpenBSD team would think this a trivial matter, but for the
next version I would really like to see a Portupgrade-like program to
upgrade the compiled Ports to the new version without a great deal of
hassle.

Aside from that single gripe, what strikes me most about OpenBSD in general
is the professional manner in which it is developed and released. By
professional I don't mean "corporate," as in meaningless meetings, bad
design strategies, incompetent bosses, unreasonable deadlines, etc. I mean
it's released on time with few problems and it does exactly what it claims
to do.

Each release is a small step forward; operating system development should be
a battle of inches instead of historically disastrous attempts at giant
leaps, and OpenBSD 3.6 personifies that philosophy. With the exception of
SMP support, every enhancement new to 3.6 is a few inches forward. Some
things may seem little but mean a great deal to those who requested and
developed them. Others might not be able to notice any difference at all
between 3.5 and 3.6.

OpenBSD 3.6 is among the better AMD64 operating systems out there, which may
make it a suitable server replacement for FreeBSD, which continues to suffer
from a horrible AMD64 SMP implementation. If you want to set up a cheap,
secure home server, or if you'd like to get into using the command line
interface more proficiently, OpenBSD 3.6 is an excellent operating system to
choose.

Purpose Server operating system
Manufacturer The OpenBSD Project
Architectures i386, AMD64/EM64T, SPARC, SPARC64Alpha, HP300, HPPA,
Mac68k, MacPPC, mvme68k, mvme88k, luna88k, VAX
License BSD
Market Servers of all kinds, for home, office, or enterprise;
security-minded users and sysadmins
Price (retail) $45 for a 3-CD set. Click here to buy it directly
from the OpenBSD site. Can be installed
over FTP for free
Previous version 3.5
Product Web site Click here

Jem Matzan is the author of three books, a
freelance journalist and the editor-in-chief of The Jem Report
.

Links

_____


1. "released" -
http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/29/1856256&tid=8

2. "reviewed OpenBSD 3.5" -
http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/07/20/180234&tid=8

3. "integrated cryptography" - http://www.openbsd.com/crypto.html

4. "you can certainly use it" -
http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/15/181232&tid=130

5. "OpenBSD 3.6 CD set" - https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order

6. "45 euros" - https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order.eu

7. "ProPolice" - http://www.trl.ibm.com/projects/security/ssp

8. "default chrooting" -
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#httpdchroot

9. "libmilter" - http://www.milter.org/

10. "they'd appear here" - http://www.openbsd.org/errata.html

11. "The OpenBSD Project" - http://www.openbsd.org/

12. "Click here to buy it directly from the OpenBSD site" -
http://www.openbsd.com/orders.html

13. "installed over FTP" - http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html

14. "Click here" - http://www.openbsd.com/

15. "author" - http://www.herotale.com/

16. "The Jem Report" - http://www.thejemreport.com/





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following a couple of lines of instructions. As of this writing there are =
no=20
listed security bulletins, but if there are, href=3D"http://www.openbsd.org/errata.html">they'd appear here.


The PATCH branch of OpenBSD is one of three separate yet related divisio=
ns of=20
the project. The first and most obvious is RELEASE, which remains consisten=
t=20
throughout the six-month lifespan of an official OpenBSD release. PATCH is=
RELEASE plus any security updates, and is updated as patches are released.=
The=20
third branch is CURRENT, which is the cutting edge of OpenBSD development.=
Obviously you don't want to run in-development code on a production machin=
e, so=20
CURRENT is really only useful to people interested in contributing to the=
project. These branches are not isolated to the base system; they also inc=
lude=20
the entire Ports tree.


Conclusions


I'm certain the OpenBSD team would think this a trivial matter, but for =
the=20
next version I would really like to see a Portupgrade-like program to upgra=
de=20
the compiled Ports to the new version without a great deal of hassle.


Aside from that single gripe, what strikes me most about OpenBSD in gene=
ral=20
is the professional manner in which it is developed and released. By=20
professional I don't mean "corporate," as in meaningless meetings, bad desi=
gn=20
strategies, incompetent bosses, unreasonable deadlines, etc. I mean it's=20
released on time with few problems and it does exactly what it claims to do=
.


Each release is a small step forward; operating system development shoul=
d be=20
a battle of inches instead of historically disastrous attempts at giant lea=
ps,=20
and OpenBSD 3.6 personifies that philosophy. With the exception of SMP supp=
ort,=20
every enhancement new to 3.6 is a few inches forward. Some things may seem=
little but mean a great deal to those who requested and developed them. Ot=
hers=20
might not be able to notice any difference at all between 3.5 and 3.6.


OpenBSD 3.6 is among the better AMD64 operating systems out there, which=
may=20
make it a suitable server replacement for FreeBSD, which continues to suffe=
r=20
from a horrible AMD64 SMP implementation. If you want to set up a cheap, se=
cure=20
home server, or if you'd like to get into using the command line interface =
more=20
proficiently, OpenBSD 3.6 is an excellent operating system to choose.


style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: 1pt solid; MARGIN-LEFT: auto;=
BORDER-LEFT: 1pt solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: auto; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1pt solid">
Purpose Server operating system
Manufacturer Th=
e OpenBSD=20
Project
Architectures i386, AMD64/EM64T, SPARC, SPARC64Alpha, HP300, HPPA,=
Mac68k, MacPPC, mvme68k, mvme88k, luna88k, VAX
License BSD
Market Servers of all kinds, for home, office, or enterprise;=
security-minded users and sysadmins
Price (retail)D>
$45 for a 3-CD set. href=3D"http://www.openbsd.com/orders.html">Click here to buy it dire=
ctly=20
from the OpenBSD site. Can be href=3D"http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html">installed over FTP =
for=20
free
Previous version<=
/TD>
3.5
Product Web site<=
/TD>
Click=20
here

Jem Matzan is the author of=
three=20
books, a freelance journalist and the editor-in-chief of href=3D"http://www.thejemreport.com/">The Jem Report.








Links





  1. "released" -=20
    http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=3D04/10/29/1856256&tid=3D8=20
  2. "reviewed OpenBSD 3.5" -=20
    http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=3D04/07/20/180234&tid=3D8=20
  3. "integrated cryptography" - http://www.openbsd.com/crypto.html=20
  4. "you can certainly use it" -=20
    http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=3D04/10/15/181232&tid=3D=
    130=20
  5. "OpenBSD 3.6 CD set" - https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order=20
  6. "45 euros" - https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order.eu=20
  7. "ProPolice" - http://www.trl.ibm.com/projects/security/ssp=20
  8. "default chrooting" - http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#httpdchro=
    ot=20
  9. "libmilter" - http://www.milter.org/=20
  10. "they'd appear here" - http://www.openbsd.org/errata.html=20
  11. "The OpenBSD Project" - http://www.openbsd.org/=20
  12. "Click here to buy it directly from the OpenBSD site" -=20
    http://www.openbsd.com/orders.html=20
  13. "installed over FTP" - http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html=20
  14. "Click here" - http://www.openbsd.com/=20
  15. "author" - http://www.herotale.com/=20
  16. "The Jem Report" - http://www.thejemreport.com/



 





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  1. 2004-11-14 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] LUG in Denver
  2. 2004-11-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..
  3. 2004-11-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..
  4. 2004-11-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open-source advocate Chris Stone unexpectedly leaves Novell
  5. 2004-11-11 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead
  6. 2004-11-11 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead
  7. 2004-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Arafat Dead
  8. 2004-11-10 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Airforce Hi-Tech Commercial
  9. 2004-11-09 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Airforce Hi-Tech Commercial
  10. 2004-11-09 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: retirement 401-keg
  11. 2004-11-09 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] firefox 1.0
  12. 2004-11-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open House Meeting
  13. 2004-11-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night Returns!
  14. 2004-11-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Airforce Hi-Tech Commercial
  15. 2004-11-08 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Gnubies Wed. Nov. 11, 2004 Davydd Harries on Languages in Fre
  16. 2004-11-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell launches an enterprise Linux desktop
  17. 2004-11-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] tech night
  18. 2004-11-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] tech night
  19. 2004-11-06 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] More FS jobs
  20. 2004-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More FS jobs
  21. 2004-11-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell counters Microsoft's Linux 'facts' with 'truth'
  22. 2004-11-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open-source advocate Chris Stone unexpectedly leaves Novell
  23. 2004-11-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Warnings On New Phishing Threat Nov. 3, 2004
  24. 2004-11-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Keep an Eye on Your Linux Systems with Netstat
  25. 2004-11-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Important Message: BOYCOTT LINUXTODAY.COM
  26. 2004-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New Website Advice
  27. 2004-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Ruben, we are looking for a Linux guru to work at our company!
  28. 2004-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open House - Date
  29. 2004-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Open House - Date
  30. 2004-11-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Open House - Date
  31. 2004-11-04 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Open House - Date
  32. 2004-11-04 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] New Website Advice
  33. 2004-11-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] New Website Advice
  34. 2004-11-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open House - Date
  35. 2004-11-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: TRIVIA
  36. 2004-11-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Adobe dipping toes into desktop Linux waters
  37. 2004-11-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] business (fwd)
  38. 2004-11-03 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Adobe dipping toes into desktop Linux waters
  39. 2004-11-03 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] business (fwd)
  40. 2004-11-03 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] FW: TRIVIA
  41. 2004-11-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] business (fwd)
  42. 2004-11-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FW: TRIVIA
  43. 2004-11-02 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: TRIVIA
  44. 2004-11-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: ACSS CT and NYC Meeting: JPEGs, Viruses and Your System's
  45. 2004-11-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Paging Rob M and Even I.
  46. 2004-11-01 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> RE: [hangout] Paging Rob M and Even I.
  47. 2004-11-01 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> RE: [hangout] Suse cd
  48. 2004-11-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Paging Rob M and Even I.
  49. 2004-11-30 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [FCNYC] Computer ONLY for non-profit!!!] (fwd)
  50. 2004-11-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft upgrade knocks out 80,000 government PCs
  51. 2004-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Some good political action advise
  52. 2004-11-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  53. 2004-11-29 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  54. 2004-11-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  55. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  56. 2004-11-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  57. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RUBEN! I borrowered your Klezmagic CD and copied it! Not Your Scotch. Please do not call the Cops!
  58. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open House Materials
  59. 2004-11-28 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [hangout] RUBEN! I borrowered your Klezmagic CD and copied it! Not Your Scotch.
  60. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  61. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  62. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need car
  63. 2004-11-28 bluecitabria <bluecitabria-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] unsubscribe
  64. 2004-11-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need car
  65. 2004-11-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] need car
  66. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New trolling sight for the argumentitive
  67. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novel Desktop Linux
  68. 2004-11-27 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] In NY, Money Can't Buy Love But Gets a Foot in Door (fwd)
  69. 2004-11-27 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft Linux (fwd)
  70. 2004-11-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers]
  71. 2004-11-26 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  72. 2004-11-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  73. 2004-11-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  74. 2004-11-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Thanks Giving Day Wishes
  75. 2004-11-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  76. 2004-11-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  77. 2004-11-24 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  78. 2004-11-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  79. 2004-11-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  80. 2004-11-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] C/C++ coding problem.
  81. 2004-11-24 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] C/C++ coding problem.
  82. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] NY & CT Meeting: The Art of Public Relations for Em
  83. 2004-11-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY & CT Meeting: The Art of Public Relations for Emplyees, Consultants, and Business Owners
  84. 2004-11-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NY & CT Meeting: The Art of Public Relations for Em
  85. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY & CT Meeting: The Art of Public Relations for Emplyees, Consultants, and Business Owners
  86. 2004-11-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Federal Programs Technology Centers Money
  87. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Federal Programs Technology Centers Money
  88. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Federal Programs Technology Centers Money
  89. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hardware Pick Up
  90. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  91. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  92. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  93. 2004-11-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  94. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Plans for Flyer Distriubtion
  95. 2004-11-23 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] C/C++ coding problem.
  96. 2004-11-23 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Plans for Flyer Distriubtion
  97. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] C/C++ coding problem.
  98. 2004-11-23 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [hangout] C/C++ coding problem.
  99. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [MLUG] November 13, 2004 Meeting Notes
  100. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Plans for Flyer Distriubtion
  101. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  102. 2004-11-22 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council Repost
  103. 2004-11-22 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council Repost
  104. 2004-11-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  105. 2004-11-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology
  106. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council Repost
  107. 2004-11-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology
  108. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institute: Classes
  109. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU/Linux Skills become more valuable
  110. 2004-11-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Available for Download
  111. 2004-11-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] "Linux World" - Time for a Boycott
  112. 2004-11-22 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Available for Download
  113. 2004-11-22 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Be Happy!
  114. 2004-11-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Available for Download
  115. 2004-11-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology
  116. 2004-11-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  117. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  118. 2004-11-21 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology
  119. 2004-11-21 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Local Press
  120. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Local Press
  121. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] "Linux World" - Time for a Boycott
  122. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO and and FUD leads to resignations
  123. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show Archive
  124. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] flyers
  125. 2004-11-21 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] flyers
  126. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  127. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  128. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  129. 2004-11-21 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  130. 2004-11-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  131. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  132. 2004-11-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  133. 2004-11-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  134. 2004-11-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  135. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  136. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  137. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  138. 2004-11-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  139. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  140. 2004-11-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  141. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  142. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  143. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  144. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Trimming an MP3
  145. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  146. 2004-11-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  147. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  148. 2004-11-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  149. 2004-11-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  150. 2004-11-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  151. 2004-11-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology
  152. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tonights NYLXS Radio Show - Reading Tea Leaves in Corperate IT
  153. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Nukes Needed for ME
  154. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Call me 1-718-715-1771
  155. 2004-11-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need more $$$ thinkers at Tech Night!
  156. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today
  157. 2004-11-19 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [hangout] Need more $$$ thinkers at Tech Night!
  158. 2004-11-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need more $$$ thinkers at Tech Night!
  159. 2004-11-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need more $$$ thinkers at Tech Night!
  160. 2004-11-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [brantley-at-coraid.com: I would like to give a talk t o the New York Linux Scene]
  161. 2004-11-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] [brantley-at-coraid.com: I would like to give a talk t o
  162. 2004-11-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Sun's Solaris 10 Launch - The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
  163. 2004-11-19 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council.
  164. 2004-11-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [brantley-at-coraid.com: I would like to give a talk to the New York Linux Scene]
  165. 2004-11-18 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology
  166. 2004-11-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [moyses-at-inpa.gov.br: How to join?]
  167. 2004-11-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [marsee-at-oreilly.com: Word Annoyances Needed for New Book]
  168. 2004-11-18 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council.
  169. 2004-11-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement
  170. 2004-11-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [marsee-at-oreilly.com: Word Annoyances Needed for New Book]
  171. 2004-11-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Learning all about Linux
  172. 2004-11-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show Saturday Night
  173. 2004-11-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYC'S SECRET GUIDE ON FIRING TEACHERS
  174. 2004-11-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Fedora Core 3 vs. Suse 9.2 Professional
  175. 2004-11-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need suggestions. 3D development software for Linux/Unix.
  176. 2004-11-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..
  177. 2004-11-16 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Fwd: NY Holiday Event
  178. 2004-11-16 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..
  179. 2004-11-16 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [hangout] Need suggestions. 3D development software for Linux/Unix.
  180. 2004-11-15 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] Re: OpenOffice
  181. 2004-11-15 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] Open House Schedule and Preparation
  182. 2004-11-15 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council.
  183. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: OpenOffice
  184. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open House Schedule and Preparation
  185. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council.
  186. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [marsee-at-oreilly.com: Word Annoyances Needed for New Book]
  187. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [marsee-at-oreilly.com: Word Annoyances Needed for New Book]
  188. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Fwd: NY Holiday Event
  189. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..
  190. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Worse than Al-Quada!
  191. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: [Fwd: Attention MICHAEL RICHARDSON This is your Final Notice of Domain Extension]
  192. 2004-11-15 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FW: [Fwd: Attention MICHAEL RICHARDSON This is your
  193. 2004-11-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> RE: [hangout] FW: [Fwd: Attention MICHAEL RICHARDSON This is your
  194. 2004-11-15 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FW: [Fwd: Attention MICHAEL RICHARDSON This is your
  195. 2004-11-15 Walt Costanza <wjc-at-retsambew.com> Subject: [hangout] FW: [Fwd: Attention MICHAEL RICHARDSON This is your Final Notice of Domain Extension]
  196. 2004-11-15 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..

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