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Title Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement
Date 2004.11.17 12:00
Author StoneLion
Topic
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/11/16/1544210

The OpenBSD team earlier this month released
version 3.6
of the free operating system, with support for more hardware, updated
application software, and bug fixes included. This time around OpenBSD has
added support for multi-CPU systems, a number of drivers for new peripheral
hardware, and about 200 more applications to the Ports tree. We took the new
version for a spin, and liked what we found.


Since we've previously reviewed
OpenBSD 3.5,
we won't repeat everything, but here is a quick list of the general features
intrinsic to the operating system:

* OpenBSD is secure by default -- in other words, the base system that
you install will not have any security flaws or enabled services that could
compromise the integrity of your system.

* OpenBSD is easy to install, set up, and use, but it's all done from
the command line. If you want to learn and use OpenBSD, you'd better be
familiar with the man command.

* The documentation via the manual pages is superb.

* All of the software you'll need to run a Web, mail, NFS, DHCP, or
file server is installed and ready to be configured and enabled.

* New programs are easy to install, update, and manage through the
Ports system.

* OpenBSD includes integrated
cryptography, which is used by some parts of the base system to enhance
security.

OpenBSD doesn't necessarily make as complete a desktop system as FreeBSD or
one of the desktop GNU/Linux distributions does, but you
can
certainly use it to get email, chat on IRC, browse the Web, or write a book.
There are no hardware accelerated drivers for Nvidia, ATI, or Intel video
chips, so 3D games are out of the question, but you can still get good color
depth and resolution in X11 for 2D applications. Desktop environments like
KDE 3.2.3 and GNOME 2.6.2 are available through the Ports system, as are
several window managers and a host of GUI-based programs that run in them.
In all there are more than 2,700 programs in the OpenBSD 3.6 Ports tree
which, unlike FreeBSD's Ports tree, remains static for each release. In
other words, OpenBSD Ports follows the same release schedule that the base
system does, as opposed to the maintainers updating the Ports as they see
fit. This means that you'll be stuck with the same software versions until
the next release (six months), but it also means that each OpenBSD
installation will have exactly the same software on it, providing a
standard, stable environment for sysadmins.

The quickest way to get OpenBSD 3.6 is through an FTP install. You download
a small CD ISO or diskette image, boot from it, then download the
installation sets from the OpenBSD FTP servers. Every time I try this I have
some kind of problem, but the CD set always works perfectly on my systems.

Speaking of which, the OpenBSD 3.6 CD set
is an inexpensive $45 (or 45
euros). Anyone seriously
considering OpenBSD on the i386, SPARC/SPARC64, AMD64, VAX, or macPPC
architectures will find the CD set to be a much more convenient and speedy
method of installation.

OpenBSD's installation routine is spartan, but quick and simple. It's merely
a script that goes through each step of a complete installation or upgrade
of the base system. Depending on the speed of your computer and the size of
your hard drive, installation can take between 10 and 30 minutes, and
upgrades will usually take about half that. The upgrade script unfortunately
does not upgrade precompiled application packages or any programs that
you've installed through Ports, and there is no Portupgrade program to
automate this process as there is in FreeBSD. To upgrade your programs,
you'll have to reinstall each one individually -- not difficult to do, but
certainly tedious if you have a number of programs on your system. Some
people prefer to deinstall all packages prior to the upgrade, then reinstall
the new versions afterward. Packages are not as easy to get from the FTP
repository as Ports are, but are much quicker to install on slower systems
and easier to distribute to multiple installations.

If you choose to upgrade your Ports after the upgrade, you can run the
/usr/ports/infrastructure/build/out-of-date script to determine which ones
need to be upgraded, then locate each one and deinstall and reinstall it.

New in 3.6

Included with the standard installation are OpenSSH 3.9 (OpenSSH is part of
the OpenBSD project) and OpenSSL 0.9.7d; GCC 2.95.3 and 3.3.2 with the
ProPolice add-on installed
and enabled by default; Perl 5.8.5; Apache 1.3.29 with default chrooting
, privilege revocation,
mod_ssl 2.8.16 and DSO support; Sendmail 8.13.0 with libmilter
; BIND 9.2.3; Heimdal 0.6rc1; and a customized fork
of XFree86 4.4.0 without the new, more restrictive licensing. Other packages
like Lynx and Sudo are also included, and most of the above-listed programs
include specialized patches from the OpenBSD team to enhance security and
functionality.

Hands On

I tested out OpenBSD 3.6 on my most temperamental system: a Dell Inspiron
3800 laptop. I had no trouble with my PCMCIA Xircom wired or Linksys
wireless network cards, nor did I have any trouble switching between the
two. I could install and use XFree86 without any trouble, and everything
seemed to work just as perfectly as it did in the previous release. I didn't
have any multi-CPU systems running the new SMP support on either the AMD64
or i386 editions.

The OpenBSD project cannot guarantee the security of programs in the Ports
tree, but they do make an effort to ensure that obviously insecure programs
don't make it into Ports. If a security bulletin is sent out about programs
in either the base system or Ports, OpenBSD provides patches individually or
as a separate branch of the entire project. The process for applying a
single patch is detailed at the top of each patch file, making installation
as easy as following a couple of lines of instructions. As of this writing
there are no listed security bulletins, but if there are, they'd appear here
.

The PATCH branch of OpenBSD is one of three separate yet related divisions
of the project. The first and most obvious is RELEASE, which remains
consistent throughout the six-month lifespan of an official OpenBSD release.
PATCH is RELEASE plus any security updates, and is updated as patches are
released. The third branch is CURRENT, which is the cutting edge of OpenBSD
development. Obviously you don't want to run in-development code on a
production machine, so CURRENT is really only useful to people interested in
contributing to the project. These branches are not isolated to the base
system; they also include the entire Ports tree.

Conclusions

I'm certain the OpenBSD team would think this a trivial matter, but for the
next version I would really like to see a Portupgrade-like program to
upgrade the compiled Ports to the new version without a great deal of
hassle.

Aside from that single gripe, what strikes me most about OpenBSD in general
is the professional manner in which it is developed and released. By
professional I don't mean "corporate," as in meaningless meetings, bad
design strategies, incompetent bosses, unreasonable deadlines, etc. I mean
it's released on time with few problems and it does exactly what it claims
to do.

Each release is a small step forward; operating system development should be
a battle of inches instead of historically disastrous attempts at giant
leaps, and OpenBSD 3.6 personifies that philosophy. With the exception of
SMP support, every enhancement new to 3.6 is a few inches forward. Some
things may seem little but mean a great deal to those who requested and
developed them. Others might not be able to notice any difference at all
between 3.5 and 3.6.

OpenBSD 3.6 is among the better AMD64 operating systems out there, which may
make it a suitable server replacement for FreeBSD, which continues to suffer
from a horrible AMD64 SMP implementation. If you want to set up a cheap,
secure home server, or if you'd like to get into using the command line
interface more proficiently, OpenBSD 3.6 is an excellent operating system to
choose.

Purpose Server operating system
Manufacturer The OpenBSD Project
Architectures i386, AMD64/EM64T, SPARC, SPARC64Alpha, HP300, HPPA,
Mac68k, MacPPC, mvme68k, mvme88k, luna88k, VAX
License BSD
Market Servers of all kinds, for home, office, or enterprise;
security-minded users and sysadmins
Price (retail) $45 for a 3-CD set. Click here to buy it directly
from the OpenBSD site. Can be installed
over FTP for free
Previous version 3.5
Product Web site Click here

Jem Matzan is the author of three books, a
freelance journalist and the editor-in-chief of The Jem Report
.

Links

_____


1. "released" -
http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/29/1856256&tid=8

2. "reviewed OpenBSD 3.5" -
http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/07/20/180234&tid=8

3. "integrated cryptography" - http://www.openbsd.com/crypto.html

4. "you can certainly use it" -
http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/15/181232&tid=130

5. "OpenBSD 3.6 CD set" - https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order

6. "45 euros" - https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order.eu

7. "ProPolice" - http://www.trl.ibm.com/projects/security/ssp

8. "default chrooting" -
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#httpdchroot

9. "libmilter" - http://www.milter.org/

10. "they'd appear here" - http://www.openbsd.org/errata.html

11. "The OpenBSD Project" - http://www.openbsd.org/

12. "Click here to buy it directly from the OpenBSD site" -
http://www.openbsd.com/orders.html

13. "installed over FTP" - http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html

14. "Click here" - http://www.openbsd.com/

15. "author" - http://www.herotale.com/

16. "The Jem Report" - http://www.thejemreport.com/





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Title    Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement
Date    2004.11.17 12:00
Author    StoneLion
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http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=3D04/11/16/1544210<=
/SMALL>=20

The OpenBSD team earlier this month href=3D"http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=3D04/10/29/1856256&tid=
=3D8">released=20
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updated application software, and bug fixes included. This time around Ope=
nBSD=20
has added support for multi-CPU systems, a number of drivers for new periph=
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hardware, and about 200 more applications to the Ports tree. We took the ne=
w=20
version for a spin, and liked what we found.



Since we've previously href=3D"http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=3D04/07/20/180234&tid=3D=
8">reviewed=20
OpenBSD 3.5, we won't repeat everything, but here is a quick list of th=
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  • OpenBSD is secure by default -- in other words, the base system that =
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  • OpenBSD is easy to install, set up, and use, but it's all done from t=
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  • All of the software you'll need to run a Web, mail, NFS, DHCP, or fil=
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  • New programs are easy to install, update, and manage through the Port=
    s=20
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  • OpenBSD includes integ=
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OpenBSD doesn't necessarily make as complete a desktop system as FreeBSD=
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tid=3D130">you=20
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chips, so 3D games are out of the question, but you can still get good colo=
r=20
depth and resolution in X11 for 2D applications. Desktop environments like =
KDE=20
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window managers and a host of GUI-based programs that run in them. In all t=
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FreeBSD's Ports tree, remains static for each release. In other words, Open=
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be=20
stuck with the same software versions until the next release (six months), =
but=20
it also means that each OpenBSD installation will have exactly the same sof=
tware=20
on it, providing a standard, stable environment for sysadmins.


The quickest way to get OpenBSD 3.6 is through an FTP install. You downl=
oad a=20
small CD ISO or diskette image, boot from it, then download the installatio=
n=20
sets from the OpenBSD FTP servers. Every time I try this I have some kind o=
f=20
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Speaking of which, the href=3D"https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order">OpenBSD 3.6 CD set is =
an=20
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,=20
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convenient and speedy method of installation.


OpenBSD's installation routine is spartan, but quick and simple. It's me=
rely=20
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of=20
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Ports, and there is no Portupgrade program to automate this process as ther=
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to the upgrade, then reinstall the new versions afterward. Packages are not=
as=20
easy to get from the FTP repository as Ports are, but are much quicker to=
install on slower systems and easier to distribute to multiple=20
installations.


If you choose to upgrade your Ports after the upgrade, you can run the=
/usr/ports/infrastructure/build/out-of-date script to determine which ones=
need=20
to be upgraded, then locate each one and deinstall and reinstall it.


New in 3.6


Included with the standard installation are OpenSSH 3.9 (OpenSSH is part=
of=20
the OpenBSD project) and OpenSSL 0.9.7d; GCC 2.95.3 and 3.3.2 with the href=3D"http://www.trl.ibm.com/projects/security/ssp">ProPolice add-on=
installed and enabled by default; Perl 5.8.5; Apache 1.3.29 with href=3D"http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#httpdchroot">default chrootin=
g,=20
privilege revocation, mod_ssl 2.8.16 and DSO support; Sendmail 8.13.0 with =
href=3D"http://www.milter.org/">libmilter; BIND 9.2.3; Heimdal 0.6rc1; =
and a=20
customized fork of XFree86 4.4.0 without the new, more restrictive licensin=
g.=20
Other packages like Lynx and Sudo are also included, and most of the=20
above-listed programs include specialized patches from the OpenBSD team to=
enhance security and functionality.


Hands On


I tested out OpenBSD 3.6 on my most temperamental system: a Dell Inspiro=
n=20
3800 laptop. I had no trouble with my PCMCIA Xircom wired or Linksys wirele=
ss=20
network cards, nor did I have any trouble switching between the two. I coul=
d=20
install and use XFree86 without any trouble, and everything seemed to work =
just=20
as perfectly as it did in the previous release. I didn't have any multi-CPU=
systems running the new SMP support on either the AMD64 or i386 editions.<=
/P>

The OpenBSD project cannot guarantee the security of programs in the Por=
ts=20
tree, but they do make an effort to ensure that obviously insecure programs=
don't make it into Ports. If a security bulletin is sent out about program=
s in=20
either the base system or Ports, OpenBSD provides patches individually or a=
s a=20
separate branch of the entire project. The process for applying a single pa=
tch=20
is detailed at the top of each patch file, making installation as easy as=
following a couple of lines of instructions. As of this writing there are =
no=20
listed security bulletins, but if there are, href=3D"http://www.openbsd.org/errata.html">they'd appear here.


The PATCH branch of OpenBSD is one of three separate yet related divisio=
ns of=20
the project. The first and most obvious is RELEASE, which remains consisten=
t=20
throughout the six-month lifespan of an official OpenBSD release. PATCH is=
RELEASE plus any security updates, and is updated as patches are released.=
The=20
third branch is CURRENT, which is the cutting edge of OpenBSD development.=
Obviously you don't want to run in-development code on a production machin=
e, so=20
CURRENT is really only useful to people interested in contributing to the=
project. These branches are not isolated to the base system; they also inc=
lude=20
the entire Ports tree.


Conclusions


I'm certain the OpenBSD team would think this a trivial matter, but for =
the=20
next version I would really like to see a Portupgrade-like program to upgra=
de=20
the compiled Ports to the new version without a great deal of hassle.


Aside from that single gripe, what strikes me most about OpenBSD in gene=
ral=20
is the professional manner in which it is developed and released. By=20
professional I don't mean "corporate," as in meaningless meetings, bad desi=
gn=20
strategies, incompetent bosses, unreasonable deadlines, etc. I mean it's=20
released on time with few problems and it does exactly what it claims to do=
.


Each release is a small step forward; operating system development shoul=
d be=20
a battle of inches instead of historically disastrous attempts at giant lea=
ps,=20
and OpenBSD 3.6 personifies that philosophy. With the exception of SMP supp=
ort,=20
every enhancement new to 3.6 is a few inches forward. Some things may seem=
little but mean a great deal to those who requested and developed them. Ot=
hers=20
might not be able to notice any difference at all between 3.5 and 3.6.


OpenBSD 3.6 is among the better AMD64 operating systems out there, which=
may=20
make it a suitable server replacement for FreeBSD, which continues to suffe=
r=20
from a horrible AMD64 SMP implementation. If you want to set up a cheap, se=
cure=20
home server, or if you'd like to get into using the command line interface =
more=20
proficiently, OpenBSD 3.6 is an excellent operating system to choose.


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  1. "released" -=20
    http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=3D04/10/29/1856256&tid=3D8=20
  2. "reviewed OpenBSD 3.5" -=20
    http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=3D04/07/20/180234&tid=3D8=20
  3. "integrated cryptography" - http://www.openbsd.com/crypto.html=20
  4. "you can certainly use it" -=20
    http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=3D04/10/15/181232&tid=3D=
    130=20
  5. "OpenBSD 3.6 CD set" - https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order=20
  6. "45 euros" - https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order.eu=20
  7. "ProPolice" - http://www.trl.ibm.com/projects/security/ssp=20
  8. "default chrooting" - http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#httpdchro=
    ot=20
  9. "libmilter" - http://www.milter.org/=20
  10. "they'd appear here" - http://www.openbsd.org/errata.html=20
  11. "The OpenBSD Project" - http://www.openbsd.org/=20
  12. "Click here to buy it directly from the OpenBSD site" -=20
    http://www.openbsd.com/orders.html=20
  13. "installed over FTP" - http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html=20
  14. "Click here" - http://www.openbsd.com/=20
  15. "author" - http://www.herotale.com/=20
  16. "The Jem Report" - http://www.thejemreport.com/



 





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  1. 2004-11-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Paging Rob M and Even I.
  2. 2004-11-01 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> RE: [hangout] Paging Rob M and Even I.
  3. 2004-11-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Paging Rob M and Even I.
  4. 2004-11-01 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> RE: [hangout] Suse cd
  5. 2004-11-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FW: TRIVIA
  6. 2004-11-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] business (fwd)
  7. 2004-11-02 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: TRIVIA
  8. 2004-11-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: ACSS CT and NYC Meeting: JPEGs, Viruses and Your System's
  9. 2004-11-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Adobe dipping toes into desktop Linux waters
  10. 2004-11-03 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Adobe dipping toes into desktop Linux waters
  11. 2004-11-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] business (fwd)
  12. 2004-11-03 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] business (fwd)
  13. 2004-11-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: TRIVIA
  14. 2004-11-03 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] FW: TRIVIA
  15. 2004-11-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open House - Date
  16. 2004-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New Website Advice
  17. 2004-11-04 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] New Website Advice
  18. 2004-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open House - Date
  19. 2004-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Open House - Date
  20. 2004-11-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Open House - Date
  21. 2004-11-04 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Open House - Date
  22. 2004-11-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] New Website Advice
  23. 2004-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Ruben, we are looking for a Linux guru to work at our company!
  24. 2004-11-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Important Message: BOYCOTT LINUXTODAY.COM
  25. 2004-11-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Keep an Eye on Your Linux Systems with Netstat
  26. 2004-11-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell counters Microsoft's Linux 'facts' with 'truth'
  27. 2004-11-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open-source advocate Chris Stone unexpectedly leaves Novell
  28. 2004-11-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Warnings On New Phishing Threat Nov. 3, 2004
  29. 2004-11-06 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] More FS jobs
  30. 2004-11-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] tech night
  31. 2004-11-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More FS jobs
  32. 2004-11-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] tech night
  33. 2004-11-08 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Gnubies Wed. Nov. 11, 2004 Davydd Harries on Languages in Fre
  34. 2004-11-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell launches an enterprise Linux desktop
  35. 2004-11-09 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Airforce Hi-Tech Commercial
  36. 2004-11-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Airforce Hi-Tech Commercial
  37. 2004-11-09 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] firefox 1.0
  38. 2004-11-09 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: retirement 401-keg
  39. 2004-11-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open House Meeting
  40. 2004-11-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night Returns!
  41. 2004-11-10 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Airforce Hi-Tech Commercial
  42. 2004-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Arafat Dead
  43. 2004-11-11 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead
  44. 2004-11-11 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead
  45. 2004-11-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open-source advocate Chris Stone unexpectedly leaves Novell
  46. 2004-11-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..
  47. 2004-11-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..
  48. 2004-11-14 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] LUG in Denver
  49. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..
  50. 2004-11-15 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..
  51. 2004-11-15 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FW: [Fwd: Attention MICHAEL RICHARDSON This is your
  52. 2004-11-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> RE: [hangout] FW: [Fwd: Attention MICHAEL RICHARDSON This is your
  53. 2004-11-15 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FW: [Fwd: Attention MICHAEL RICHARDSON This is your
  54. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: [Fwd: Attention MICHAEL RICHARDSON This is your Final Notice of Domain Extension]
  55. 2004-11-15 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] Open House Schedule and Preparation
  56. 2004-11-15 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] Re: OpenOffice
  57. 2004-11-15 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council.
  58. 2004-11-15 Walt Costanza <wjc-at-retsambew.com> Subject: [hangout] FW: [Fwd: Attention MICHAEL RICHARDSON This is your Final Notice of Domain Extension]
  59. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open House Schedule and Preparation
  60. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Fwd: NY Holiday Event
  61. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: OpenOffice
  62. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council.
  63. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [marsee-at-oreilly.com: Word Annoyances Needed for New Book]
  64. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [marsee-at-oreilly.com: Word Annoyances Needed for New Book]
  65. 2004-11-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Worse than Al-Quada!
  66. 2004-11-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..
  67. 2004-11-16 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..
  68. 2004-11-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need suggestions. 3D development software for Linux/Unix.
  69. 2004-11-16 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Fwd: NY Holiday Event
  70. 2004-11-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Fedora Core 3 vs. Suse 9.2 Professional
  71. 2004-11-16 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [hangout] Need suggestions. 3D development software for Linux/Unix.
  72. 2004-11-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYC'S SECRET GUIDE ON FIRING TEACHERS
  73. 2004-11-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show Saturday Night
  74. 2004-11-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Learning all about Linux
  75. 2004-11-18 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology
  76. 2004-11-18 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council.
  77. 2004-11-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [marsee-at-oreilly.com: Word Annoyances Needed for New Book]
  78. 2004-11-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [marsee-at-oreilly.com: Word Annoyances Needed for New Book]
  79. 2004-11-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement
  80. 2004-11-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [moyses-at-inpa.gov.br: How to join?]
  81. 2004-11-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need more $$$ thinkers at Tech Night!
  82. 2004-11-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need more $$$ thinkers at Tech Night!
  83. 2004-11-19 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council.
  84. 2004-11-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] [brantley-at-coraid.com: I would like to give a talk t o
  85. 2004-11-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [brantley-at-coraid.com: I would like to give a talk t o the New York Linux Scene]
  86. 2004-11-19 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [hangout] Need more $$$ thinkers at Tech Night!
  87. 2004-11-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Sun's Solaris 10 Launch - The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
  88. 2004-11-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [brantley-at-coraid.com: I would like to give a talk to the New York Linux Scene]
  89. 2004-11-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need more $$$ thinkers at Tech Night!
  90. 2004-11-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  91. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  92. 2004-11-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  93. 2004-11-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  94. 2004-11-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  95. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  96. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  97. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  98. 2004-11-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  99. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  100. 2004-11-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  101. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  102. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  103. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  104. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  105. 2004-11-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  106. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  107. 2004-11-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  108. 2004-11-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  109. 2004-11-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology
  110. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Call me 1-718-715-1771
  111. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today
  112. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Nukes Needed for ME
  113. 2004-11-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  114. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tonights NYLXS Radio Show - Reading Tea Leaves in Corperate IT
  115. 2004-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Trimming an MP3
  116. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] flyers
  117. 2004-11-21 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Local Press
  118. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  119. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  120. 2004-11-21 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Perl vs. PHP
  121. 2004-11-21 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology
  122. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] "Linux World" - Time for a Boycott
  123. 2004-11-21 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] flyers
  124. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Local Press
  125. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show Archive
  126. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO and and FUD leads to resignations
  127. 2004-11-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  128. 2004-11-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] "Linux World" - Time for a Boycott
  129. 2004-11-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology
  130. 2004-11-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology
  131. 2004-11-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology
  132. 2004-11-22 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council Repost
  133. 2004-11-22 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council Repost
  134. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Upcoming Hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council Repost
  135. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  136. 2004-11-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  137. 2004-11-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  138. 2004-11-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Available for Download
  139. 2004-11-22 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Available for Download
  140. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institute: Classes
  141. 2004-11-22 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Be Happy!
  142. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU/Linux Skills become more valuable
  143. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Plans for Flyer Distriubtion
  144. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  145. 2004-11-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Available for Download
  146. 2004-11-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [MLUG] November 13, 2004 Meeting Notes
  147. 2004-11-23 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] C/C++ coding problem.
  148. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] C/C++ coding problem.
  149. 2004-11-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Federal Programs Technology Centers Money
  150. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Federal Programs Technology Centers Money
  151. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] NY & CT Meeting: The Art of Public Relations for Em
  152. 2004-11-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NY & CT Meeting: The Art of Public Relations for Em
  153. 2004-11-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY & CT Meeting: The Art of Public Relations for Emplyees, Consultants, and Business Owners
  154. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Plans for Flyer Distriubtion
  155. 2004-11-23 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Plans for Flyer Distriubtion
  156. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  157. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  158. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  159. 2004-11-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Tech Night, Flyers and Classes
  160. 2004-11-23 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [hangout] C/C++ coding problem.
  161. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Federal Programs Technology Centers Money
  162. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hardware Pick Up
  163. 2004-11-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY & CT Meeting: The Art of Public Relations for Emplyees, Consultants, and Business Owners
  164. 2004-11-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] C/C++ coding problem.
  165. 2004-11-24 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] C/C++ coding problem.
  166. 2004-11-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  167. 2004-11-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  168. 2004-11-24 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  169. 2004-11-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  170. 2004-11-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  171. 2004-11-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  172. 2004-11-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  173. 2004-11-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Thanks Giving Day Wishes
  174. 2004-11-26 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers
  175. 2004-11-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Open House Flyers]
  176. 2004-11-27 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] In NY, Money Can't Buy Love But Gets a Foot in Door (fwd)
  177. 2004-11-27 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft Linux (fwd)
  178. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  179. 2004-11-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  180. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  181. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need car
  182. 2004-11-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need car
  183. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RUBEN! I borrowered your Klezmagic CD and copied it! Not Your Scotch. Please do not call the Cops!
  184. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  185. 2004-11-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] need car
  186. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New trolling sight for the argumentitive
  187. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novel Desktop Linux
  188. 2004-11-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open House Materials
  189. 2004-11-28 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [hangout] RUBEN! I borrowered your Klezmagic CD and copied it! Not Your Scotch.
  190. 2004-11-28 bluecitabria <bluecitabria-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] unsubscribe
  191. 2004-11-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  192. 2004-11-29 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  193. 2004-11-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Flyer Distribution - Tuesday meeting
  194. 2004-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Some good political action advise
  195. 2004-11-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft upgrade knocks out 80,000 government PCs
  196. 2004-11-30 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [FCNYC] Computer ONLY for non-profit!!!] (fwd)

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