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DATE | 2004-11-15 |
FROM | David Sugar
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SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on..
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From owner-hangouts-destenys-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Nov 15 07:43:19 2004 X-UIDL: X6*"!-(-at-"!-bG!!&`/"! Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id iAFChJ1F000576 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:43:19 -0500 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.12.3/Submit) id iAFChIRr000575 for hangouts-destenys; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:43:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangouts-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from mail.ostel.com ([216.218.222.122]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id iAFChI26000564 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:43:18 -0500 Received: by mail.ostel.com (Postfix, from userid 1005) id A14FC2F2877; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 04:54:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.99] (pool-138-89-236-92.atc.east.verizon.net [138.89.236.92]) by mail.ostel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989032F2876; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 04:54:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4198A44E.9010003-at-ostel.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:42:54 -0500 From: David Sugar User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040918) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [hangout] Arafat Dead - and the beat goes on.. References: <1100146442.28736.0.camel-at-flatbush.mrbrklyn.com> <20041114183206.GA14940-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20041114183716.GB14940-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> In-Reply-To: <20041114183716.GB14940-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000202040604090003060206" Sender: owner-hangouts-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: David Sugar List: New Yorker GNU Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribe name-at-domian.com in the body to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Keywords: X-UID: 39356 Status: RO Content-Length: 3942 Lines: 111
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Yes indeed, no doubt an "overzeleous" reminder from Arafat's "legacy". I have as little expectation that the Palestinian Arabs will be able to overcome this "legacy" as I would have for the Iraqi's to have been able to kick out Saddam on their own. A legacy and culture of thugs with guns entrenched in power in the Palestinian Arab territories is not dissimilar to the dystopia that was Saddam's Iraq.
Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS wrote:
>Oh > >Never mind. The Arabs deny it happened and it was only 'over zelousnes'. >Well at least we agree on that... > > >Abbas survives assassination attempt in Gaza City By KHALED ABU TOAMEH > > > > >Mourners tent in Gaza City under attack Photo: Channel 2 > >Advertisement > >Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas on Sunday night survived an apparent >assassination attempt on his life during a visit to the Gaza Strip. > >Two Palestinians, one of Abbas's bodyguards and a uniformed PA policeman, >were killed when more than a dozen Palestinian gunmen opened fire toward >Abbas and former security minister Muhammad Dahlan, who was standing >next to him. > >Abbas and Dahlan arrived at a tent in Gaza City to receive condolences >for the death of Yasser Arafat. > >Shortly after the shooting, PA officials hurried to deny that it was an >attack on Abbas, a former PA prime minister, who was elected on Sunday >as the Fatah representative for the PA general elections. > >"The shooting was a result of confusion and chaos, after gunmen arrived >at the scene [mourners' tent] and fired shots in the air," officials >told Al-Jazeera. > >"Abbas was not specifically targeted," they added. However, other >eyewitnesses said the gunmen shot specifically toward the direction >of Abbas. > >Just an over an hour after the incident, Abbas also appeared on >Palestinian TV saying the shooting was not an assassination attempt. He >said the incident was caused by over-zealousness. > >Dahlan too told Al-Jazeera shortly after the attack that he believes >the shooting was not an assassination attempt on Abbas. > >Eyewitnesses told The Jerusalem Post that a group of Fatah gunmen arrived >at the scene, chanting slogans against Abbas and Dahlan and condemning >them as traitors. > >The gunmen shouted "Abbas and Dahlan are agents for the Americans" >and opened fire. > >The gunmen also chanted, "With our blood and souls, we will redeem Abu >Amar (Arafat)." > >Abbas was rescued from the scene unhurt, the witnesses said. Security >guards hustled him into the tent and threw him to the ground for his >safety as shooting intensified. His bodyguards apparently saved his life, >but the attack cost the lives of two guards. > >Abbas was later taken to Palestinian Authority headquarters. > >A PA security official said the gunmen belong to Fatah's armed wing, >Aksa Martyrs Brigades. > >Matthew Gutman contributed to this report > > > >____________________________ >NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene >Fair Use - >because it's either fair use or useless.... >NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc > >
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