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wsj.com
How a More Resilient America Beat a Midcentury Pandemic
Niall Ferguson
16-20 minutes

=93Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive,/But to be young was very
heaven!=94 Wordsworth was talking about France in 1789, but the line
applies better to the America of 1957. That summer, Elvis Presley topped
the charts with =93(Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear.=94 But we tend to forget
that 1957 also saw the outbreak of one of the biggest pandemics of the
modern era. Not coincidentally, another hit of that year was =93Rockin=92
Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu=94 by Huey =93Piano=94 Smith & the Clow=
ns.

When seeking historical analogies for Covid-19, commentators have
referred more often to the catastrophic 1918-19 =93Spanish influenza=94 than
to the flu pandemic of 1957-58. Yet the later episode deserves to be
much better known, not just because the public health threat was a
closer match to our own but because American society at the time was
better prepared=97culturally, institutionally and politically=97to deal wit=
h it.

The =93Asian flu=94=97as it was then uncontroversial to call a contagious
disease that originated in Asia=97was a novel strain (H2N2) of influenza
A. It was first reported in Hong Kong in April 1957, having originated
in mainland China two months before, and=97like Covid-19=97it swiftly went
global.

=93 Unlike Covid-19, the Asian flu killed appreciable numbers of young
people. The age group that suffered the heaviest losses globally was 15-
to 24-year-olds. =94

Like Covid-19, the Asian flu led to significant excess mortality. The
most recent research concludes that between 700,000 and 1.5 million
people worldwide died in the pandemic. A pre-Covid study of the 1957-58
pandemic concluded that if =93a virus of similar severity=94 were to strike
in our time, around 2.7 million deaths might be anticipated worldwide.
The current Covid-19 death toll is 3 million, about the same percentage
of world population as were killed in 1957=9658 (0.04%, compared with 1.7%
in 1918-19).

True, excess mortality in the U.S.=97now around 550,000=97has been
significantly higher in relative terms in 2020-21 than in 1957-58 (at
most 116,000). Unlike Covid-19, however, the Asian flu killed
appreciable numbers of young people. In terms of excess mortality
relative to baseline expected mortality rates, the age groups that
suffered the heaviest losses globally were 15- to 24-year-olds (34%
above average mortality rates) followed by 5- to 14-year-olds (27% above
average). In total years of life lost in the U.S., adjusted for
population, Covid has been roughly 40% worse than the Asian flu.

The Asian flu and Covid-19 are very different diseases, in other words.
The Asian flu=92s basic reproduction number=97the average number of people
that one person was likely to infect in a population without any
immunity=97was around 1.65. For Covid-19, it is likely higher, perhaps 2.5
or 3.0. Superspreader events probably played a bigger role in 2020 than
in 1957: Covid has a lower dispersion factor=97that is, a minority of
carriers do most of the transmission. On the other hand, people had more
reason to be afraid of a new strain of influenza in 1957 than of a novel
coronavirus in 2020. The disastrous pandemic of 1918 was still within
living memory, whereas neither SARS nor MERS had produced pandemics.

High school students in Washington, D.C., September 1957.
Photo: Everett Collection

The first cases of Asian flu in the U.S. occurred early in June 1957,
among the crews of ships berthed at Newport, R.I. Cases also appeared
among the 53,000 boys attending the Boy Scout Jamboree at Valley Forge,
Penn. As Scout troops traveled around the country in July and August,
they spread the flu. In July there was a massive outbreak in Tangipahoa
Parish, La. By the end of the summer, cases had also appeared in
California, Ohio, Kentucky and Utah.

It was the start of the school year that made the Asian flu an epidemic.
The Communicable Disease Center, as the CDC was then called, estimated
that approximately 45 million people=97about 25% of the population=97became
infected with the new virus in October and November 1957. Younger people
experienced the highest infection rates, from school-age children up to
adults age 35-40. Adults over 65 accounted for 60% of influenza deaths,
an abnormally low share.
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What do you think the U.S. can learn from its handling of past
pandemics? Join the conversation below.

Why were young Americans disproportionately vulnerable to the Asian flu?
Part of the explanation is that they had not been as exposed as older
Americans to earlier strains of influenza. But the scale and incidence
of any contagion are functions of both the properties of the pathogen
itself and the structure of the social network that it attacks. The year
1957 was in many ways the dawn of the American teenager. The first baby
boomers born after the end of World War II turned 13 the following year.
Summer camps, school buses and unprecedented social mingling after
school ensured that between September 1957 and March 1958 the proportion
of teenagers infected with the virus rose from 5% to 75%.

The policy response of President Dwight Eisenhower could hardly have
been more different from the response of 2020. Eisenhower did not
declare a state of emergency. There were no state lockdowns and, despite
the first wave of teenage illness, no school closures. Sick students
simply stayed at home, as they usually did. Work continued more or less
uninterrupted.

With workplaces open, the Eisenhower administration saw no need to
borrow to the hilt to fund transfers and loans to citizens and
businesses. The president asked Congress for a mere $2.5 million ($23
million in today=92s inflation-adjusted terms) to provide additional
support to the Public Health Service. There was a recession that year,
but it had little if anything to do with the pandemic. The Congressional
Budget Office has described the Asian flu as an event that =93might not be
distinguishable from the normal variation in economic activity.=94
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President Eisenhower=92s decision to keep the country open in 1957-58 was
based on expert advice. When the Association of State and Territorial
Health Officials (ASTHO) concluded in August 1957 that =93there is no
practical advantage in the closing of schools or the curtailment of
public gatherings as it relates to the spread of this disease,=94
Eisenhower listened. As a CDC official later recalled: =93Measures were
generally not taken to close schools, restrict travel, close borders or
recommend wearing masks=85.ASTHO encouraged home care for uncomplicated
influenza cases to reduce the hospital burden and recommended
limitations on hospital admissions to the sickest patients=85.Most were
advised simply to stay home, rest and drink plenty of water and fruit
juices.=94

Dr. Maurice Hilleman, seen here in the lab in 1963, played a key role in
the development of a vaccine for the Asian flu in 1957.
Photo: ASSOCIATED PRESS

This decision meant that the onus shifted entirely to pharmaceutical
interventions. As in 2020, there was a race to find a vaccine. Unlike in
2020, however, the U.S. had no real competition, thanks to the acumen of
one exceptionally talented and prescient scientist. From 1948 to 1957,
Maurice Hilleman=97born in Miles City, Mont., in 1919=97was chief of the
Department of Respiratory Diseases at the Army Medical Center (now the
Walter Reed Army Institute of Research).

Early in his career, Hilleman had discovered the genetic changes that
occur when the influenza virus mutates, known as =93shift and drift.=94 It
was this work that enabled him to recognize, when reading reports in the
press of =93glassy-eyed children=94 in Hong Kong, that the outbreak had the
potential to become a disastrous pandemic. He and a colleague worked
nine 14-hour days to confirm that this was a new and potentially deadly
strain of flu.

Speed was of the essence, as in 2020. Hilleman was able to work directly

=93 It has become commonplace to describe the speed with which vaccines
were devised for Covid-19 as unprecedented. But it was not. =94

with vaccine manufacturers, bypassing =93the bureaucratic red tape,=94 as he
put it. The Public Health Service released the first cultures of the
Asian influenza virus to manufacturers even before Hilleman had finished
his analysis. By the late summer, six companies were producing his vaccine.

It has become commonplace to describe the speed with which vaccines were
devised for Covid-19 as unprecedented. But it was not. The first New
York Times report of the outbreak in Hong Kong=97three paragraphs on page
3=97was on April 17, 1957. By July 26, little more than three months
later, doctors at Fort Ord, Calif., began to inoculate recruits to the
military.

Surgeon General Leroy Burney announced on August 15 that the vaccine was
to be allocated to states according to population size but distributed
by the manufacturers through their customary commercial networks.
Approximately 4 million one-milliliter doses were released in August, 9
million in September and 17 million in October.

This amounted to enough vaccine for just 17% of the population, and
vaccine efficacy was found to range from 53% to 60%. But the net result
of Hilleman=92s rapid response to the Asian flu was to limit the excess
mortality suffered in the U.S.

A striking contrast between 1957 and the present is that Americans today
appear to have a much lower tolerance for risk than their grandparents
and great-grandparents. As one contemporary recalled, =93For those who
grew up in the 1930s and 1940s, there was nothing unusual about finding
yourself threatened by contagious disease. Mumps, measles, chicken pox
and German measles swept through entire schools and towns; I had all
four=85.We took the Asian flu in stride. We said our prayers and took our
chances.=94

D.A. Henderson, who as a young doctor was responsible for establishing
the CDC Influenza Surveillance Unit, recalled a similar sangfroid in the
medical profession: =93From one watching the pandemic from very close
range=85it was a transiently disturbing event for the population, albeit
stressful for schools and health clinics and disruptive to school
football schedules.=94

=93 Perhaps a society with a stronger fabric of family life, community
life and church life was better equipped to withstand the anguish of
untimely deaths than a society that has, in so many ways, come apart. =94

Compare these stoical attitudes with the strange political bifurcation
of reactions we saw last year, with Democrats embracing drastic
restrictions on social and economic activity, while many Republicans
acted as if the virus was a hoax. Perhaps a society with a stronger
fabric of family life, community life and church life was better
equipped to withstand the anguish of untimely deaths than a society that
has, in so many ways, come apart.

A further contrast between 1957 and 2020 is that the competence of
government would appear to have diminished even as its size has
expanded. The number of government employees in the U.S., including
those in federal, state and local governments, numbered 7.8 million in
November 1957 and reached around 22 million in 2020=97a nearly threefold
increase, compared with a doubling of the population. Federal net
outlays were 16.2% of GDP in 1957 versus 20.8% in 2019.

The Department of Health, Education and Welfare was just four years old
in 1957. The CDC had been established in 1946, with the eradication of
malaria as its principal objective. These relatively young institutions
appear to have done what little was required of them in 1957, namely to
reassure the public that the disastrous pandemic of 1918-19 was not
about to be repeated, while helping the private sector to test,
manufacture and distribute the vaccine. The contrast with the events of
2020 is once again striking.

It was widely accepted last year that economic lockdowns=97including
shelter-in-place orders confining people to their homes=97were warranted
by the magnitude of the threat posed to healthcare systems. But the U.S.
hospital system was not overwhelmed in 1957-58 for the simple reason
that it had vastly more capacity than today. Hospital beds per thousand
people were approaching their all-time high of 9.18 per 1,000 people in
1960, compared with 2.77 in 2016.

In addition, the U.S. working population simply did not have the option
to work from home in 1957. In the absence of a telecommunications
infrastructure more sophisticated than the telephone (and a quarter of
U.S. households still did not have a landline in 1957), the choice was
between working at one=92s workplace or not working at all.

Last year, the combination of insufficient hospital capacity and
abundant communications capacity made something both necessary and
possible that would have been unthinkable two generations ago: a
temporary shutdown of a substantial proportion of economic activity,
offset by massive debt-financed government transfers to compensate for
the loss of household income. That this approach will have a great many
unintended adverse consequences already seems clear. We are fortunate
indeed that the spirit of the vaccine king Maurice Hilleman has lived on
at Moderna and Pfizer, because much else of the spirit of 1957 would
appear to have vanished.

Despite the pandemic, people thronged the beach and boardwalk at Coney
Island in July 1957.
Photo: Associated Press

=93To be young was very heaven=94 in 1957=97even with a serious risk of
infectious disease (and not just flu; there was also polio and much
else). By contrast, to be young in 2020 was=97for most American
teenagers=97rather hellish. Stuck indoors, struggling to concentrate on
=93distance learning=94 with irritable parents working from home in the next
room, young people experienced at best frustration and at worst mental
illness.

We have done a great deal over the past year (not all of it effective)
to protect the groups most vulnerable to Covid-19, which has
overwhelmingly meant the elderly: 80.4% of U.S. Covid deaths, according
to the CDC, have been among people 65 and older, compared with 0.2%
among those under 25. But the economic and social costs, in terms of
lost education and employment, have been disproportionately shouldered
by the young.

The novel that captured the ebullience of the Beat Generation was Jack
Kerouac=92s =93On the Road,=94 another hit of 1957. It begins, =93I had just
gotten over a serious illness that I won=92t bother to talk about.=94 Stand
by for =93Off the Road,=94 the novel that will sum up the despondency of the
Beaten Generation. As we dare to hope that we have gotten over our own
pandemic, someone out there must be writing it.

This essay is adapted from Mr. Ferguson=92s new book, =93Doom: The Politics
of Catastrophe,=94 which will be published by Penguin Press on May 4. He
is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.


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  41. 2021-05-10 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #511 - I am exhausted
  42. 2021-05-10 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] it is noted that there has been no
  43. 2021-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] it is noted that there has been no
  44. 2021-05-10 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] it is noted that there has been no
  45. 2021-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] it is noted that there has been no
  46. 2021-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] it is noted that there has been no
  47. 2021-05-10 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Aviva u r not a trustworthy person, making
  48. 2021-05-10 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ruben, what about the pic ?
  49. 2021-05-10 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hope u r not referring to sman356- NOT a
  50. 2021-05-10 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] show me your evidence of virus in the pic. I
  51. 2021-05-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] show me your evidence of virus in the pic. I
  52. 2021-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ruben, what about the pic ?
  53. 2021-05-10 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ruben, what about the pic ?
  54. 2021-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ruben, what about the pic ?
  55. 2021-05-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cyberAttack shutsdown NYC Gas Supply
  56. 2021-05-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Tribalism - from a real hero of tolerance and
  57. 2021-05-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fishing Trip for NYLXS
  58. 2021-05-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Throw them a spare $20 - please.
  59. 2021-05-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Attacking Elections
  60. 2021-05-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 has now let us raise a generation of
  61. 2021-05-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] COVID-19 has now let us raise a
  62. 2021-05-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A Not-So-Little War Brings Palestinian Arabs
  63. 2021-05-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Twelve Months for the CDC to get to the obvious
  64. 2021-05-13 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Health Digest, Vol 117, Issue 4
  65. 2021-05-13 Vincenzo Virgilio <vincenzo.virgilio1972-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Health Digest, Vol 117, Issue 4
  66. 2021-05-13 Chofetz Chaim Yerushalayim <chofetzchaim.jerusalem-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] BONUS ROUND - $300,000!!!
  67. 2021-05-15 Efstathios Iosifidis <iefstathios-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] FOSSCOMM 2021 (online conference) - Call
  68. 2021-05-15 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [universe] about newer
  69. 2021-05-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [universe] about newer librewolf
  70. 2021-05-15 artist <artist-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [universe] about newer
  71. 2021-05-13 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Corrupted packages
  72. 2021-05-13 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Corrupted packages
  73. 2021-05-13 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Corrupted packages
  74. 2021-05-13 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Corrupted packages
  75. 2021-05-13 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Corrupted packages
  76. 2021-05-13 artist <artist-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Corrupted packages
  77. 2021-05-13 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] service conf file changes
  78. 2021-05-12 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] autofs-s6
  79. 2021-05-11 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] autofs-s6
  80. 2021-05-11 Bryce Vandegrift <bpv-at-disroot.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Corrupted packages
  81. 2021-05-11 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] autofs-s6
  82. 2021-05-11 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Remmina not installing due to
  83. 2021-05-11 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Remmina not installing due to
  84. 2021-05-17 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #512 - Celebration Time
  85. 2021-05-17 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] New postgreSQL dump for 3.8 series
  86. 2021-05-18 Michael Drake <tlsa-at-netsurf-browser.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] Getting APNG support into
  87. 2021-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Stupid ideas keep coming from gnome
  88. 2021-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Syrians in Denmark asked to leave...
  89. 2021-05-18 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] thunderbird-artix not able to
  90. 2021-05-19 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Problem with install
  91. 2021-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Problem with install instructions
  92. 2021-05-24 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #513 - Perl 5.34.0 is now available!
  93. 2021-05-25 From: =?windows-1250?Q?Jernej_Simon=E8i=E8?= Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Help
  94. 2021-05-25 From: "Greg Farough, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This Thursday at 13:00 EDT: Community meeting on
  95. 2021-05-27 ruth02-at-web.de Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?real_Ruben_or_doppelg=C3=A4nger_=3F?=
  96. 2021-05-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  97. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  98. 2021-05-27 Dave Stevens <geek-at-uniserve.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  99. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  100. 2021-05-27 Michael Richards via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  101. 2021-05-28 Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  102. 2021-05-28 Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  103. 2021-05-28 Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  104. 2021-05-28 Marco Ciampa via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  105. 2021-05-28 Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  106. 2021-05-28 Simon Budig <simon-at-budig.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  107. 2021-05-27 Norbert Preining via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  108. 2021-05-28 Bob Long <bob-at-oblong.com.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  109. 2021-05-25 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  110. 2021-05-27 Federico Mena Quintero <federico-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  111. 2021-05-26 Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  112. 2021-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  113. 2021-05-25 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  114. 2021-05-25 Michael Richards via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct -
  115. 2021-05-25 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  116. 2021-05-28 Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  117. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  118. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  119. 2021-05-28 Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  120. 2021-05-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  121. 2021-05-28 Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  122. 2021-05-22 From: "New York Sun" <editor-at-nysun.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Uncle Sam Gets Set To Dig into Your Bank Account
  123. 2021-05-28 Dave Stevens <geek-at-uniserve.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  124. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  125. 2021-05-28 Dave Stevens <geek-at-uniserve.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  126. 2021-05-28 Joseph A Nagy Jr via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  127. 2021-05-28 Joseph A Nagy Jr via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  128. 2021-05-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  129. 2021-05-28 From: "S. via gimp-user-list" <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  130. 2021-05-29 From: =?UTF-8?B?RMOhdmlkIFZpcsOhZw==?= <virag.david003-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How should I update the screen in an fbdev driver?
  131. 2021-05-29 Robert Heller <heller-at-deepsoft.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Mailman-Users] Is it my server or Yahoo's
  132. 2021-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] volunteers for openshot
  133. 2021-05-31 Edgar Hagenbichler <edgar.hagenbichler-at-hagenbichler.at> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health demo database at
  134. 2021-05-30 Kevin Cozens <kevin-at-ve3syb.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Script-fu in GIMP - and batch
  135. 2021-05-30 Alain Knaff <alain-at-knaff.lu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU mtools 4.0.28 released
  136. 2021-05-30 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Script-fu in GIMP - and batch
  137. 2021-05-30 ludo0565 <ludo0565-at-dbmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Script-fu in GIMP - and batch
  138. 2021-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Blues Away
  139. 2021-05-31 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health demo database at
  140. 2021-05-31 IEEE Engineering in Medicine and Biology Society <m.markowycz-at-ieee.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Reminder: Register Today! Upcoming IEEE
  141. 2021-05-31 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #514 - Is OOP bad?
  142. 2021-05-31 Alain Knaff <alain-at-knaff.lu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU mtools 4.0.29 released

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