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MESSAGE
DATE 2021-05-28
FROM Gene Heskett
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
On Friday 28 May 2021 11:55:17 S. via gimp-user-list wrote:

> I first heard this name other than the software in the movie Pulp
> Fiction, and didn't even know what the hell it meant. Grow a pair,
> don't be so sensitive, else they might change it to WIMP

That almost makes sense since the mascots name is Wilber. Wilbers
Improved Manipulator Program?

Nah, never happen. Too much common sense. ;o)
>
> On Friday, May 28, 2021, 11:50:56 AM EDT, Michael Richards via
> gimp-user-list wrote:
>
> Dear Gnome and Gnu Image Manipulation Program community,
>
> I formally request that the GIMP name be changed on the basis that it
> violates the GNOME Code of Conduct.
>
> I make this request, not to cause trouble but to stand up against
> unintentional - but no less harmful - discrimination.
>
> I want to be able to this software but I don’t feel morally able to
> because of the name.
>
> I know this is under the FAQ - and that perhaps makes it even more of
> a worthy conversation to revisit... because if you’re talking
> frequently asked then these concerns are not just mine.
>
> I am a person with multiple disabilities. I, and others like me, face
> many barriers, structural violence, and overt discrimination. All this
> together creates great suffering for many.
>
> The response I read in FAQ about changing this software’s name is not
> sufficient.
>
> https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#i-dont-like-the-name-gimp-will-
>you-change-it
>
> I don’t think that this is intentional but it comes out of ignorance
> and doesn’t reflect what I see as the spirit of the FOSS community.
>
> It essentially says, ‘we came up with a name we knew (or came to know)
> was offensive 20+ years ago and we refuse to change or evolve.’
> Moreover, it is typical of the attitude towards people with
> disabilities as a marginalized group - it says, ‘Your pain and
> suffering are not important. Our branding is more important.’
>
> This is in violation of the Gnome.org Code of Conduct.
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/CodeOfConduct
>
> Sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist language or otherwise
> exclusionary language. This includes deliberately referring to someone
> by a gender that they do not identify with, and/or questioning the
> legitimacy of an individual's gender identity. If you're unsure if a
> word is derogatory, don't use it. This also includes repeated subtle
> and/or indirect discrimination. Think of how quickly this software’s
> name would change if the name was a derogatory term for another
> marginalized group. Terms I will not use even for example because they
> are generally considered so offensive. The name of this software is
> just as offensive.
>
> So, in the spirit of inclusion and doing no harm - I formally request
> that the name be changed. It’s 2021, the world is hurting, we need to
> work together.
>
> I am not asking this because I don’t want to support this software and
> the community that uses it and develops it. I requesting this because
> I want to support it.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Michael Richards, BSc, (he/him)
> Victoria BC, Canada
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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  105. 2021-05-28 Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  106. 2021-05-28 Simon Budig <simon-at-budig.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  107. 2021-05-27 Norbert Preining via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  108. 2021-05-28 Bob Long <bob-at-oblong.com.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  109. 2021-05-25 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  110. 2021-05-27 Federico Mena Quintero <federico-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  111. 2021-05-26 Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  112. 2021-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  113. 2021-05-25 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  114. 2021-05-25 Michael Richards via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct -
  115. 2021-05-25 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  116. 2021-05-28 Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  117. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  118. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  119. 2021-05-28 Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
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  121. 2021-05-28 Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  122. 2021-05-22 From: "New York Sun" <editor-at-nysun.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Uncle Sam Gets Set To Dig into Your Bank Account
  123. 2021-05-28 Dave Stevens <geek-at-uniserve.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  124. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  125. 2021-05-28 Dave Stevens <geek-at-uniserve.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
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  128. 2021-05-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
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  130. 2021-05-29 From: =?UTF-8?B?RMOhdmlkIFZpcsOhZw==?= <virag.david003-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How should I update the screen in an fbdev driver?
  131. 2021-05-29 Robert Heller <heller-at-deepsoft.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Mailman-Users] Is it my server or Yahoo's
  132. 2021-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] volunteers for openshot
  133. 2021-05-31 Edgar Hagenbichler <edgar.hagenbichler-at-hagenbichler.at> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health demo database at
  134. 2021-05-30 Kevin Cozens <kevin-at-ve3syb.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Script-fu in GIMP - and batch
  135. 2021-05-30 Alain Knaff <alain-at-knaff.lu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU mtools 4.0.28 released
  136. 2021-05-30 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Script-fu in GIMP - and batch
  137. 2021-05-30 ludo0565 <ludo0565-at-dbmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Script-fu in GIMP - and batch
  138. 2021-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Blues Away
  139. 2021-05-31 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health demo database at
  140. 2021-05-31 IEEE Engineering in Medicine and Biology Society <m.markowycz-at-ieee.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Reminder: Register Today! Upcoming IEEE
  141. 2021-05-31 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #514 - Is OOP bad?
  142. 2021-05-31 Alain Knaff <alain-at-knaff.lu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU mtools 4.0.29 released

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