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DATE 2021-05-01
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Cancel THIS !!
Opinion | The Man They Couldn’t Cancel
Barton Swaim
11-14 minutes

The term “cancel culture,” like “political correctness” before it, is a
comical expression for an ugly cultural pathology. To be canceled—an
older, closely related term is “blacklisted”—is to have your public
persona or influence assailed, typically by a sizable mob, for some real
or perceived offense against progressive orthodoxy, whatever that
orthodoxy may hold at the moment. For that to happen, you must possess
some form of authority in the first place: an academic post, a political
office, a role in the entertainment industry, employment with a
“mainstream” media organization, a voice as an intellectual or
imaginative writer.

But the targets of cancellation, having derived their legitimacy from
consensus left-liberal culture, are typically not very good at defending
themselves, or even understanding what happened to them. Often they
apologize, despite having said or done nothing wrong, which only
emboldens the cancelers. Or they fall back on pieties about free speech
and the marketplace of ideas, as if their tormentors still believed in
those principles.

One target of cancellation who is able to speak intelligently about it
is Jordan Peterson, the University of Toronto clinical psychologist,
YouTube lecturer, and author of “12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to
Chaos” (2018) and “Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life,” published in
March.

If you’re an ordinary curious person, Mr. Peterson won’t strike you as a
likely target for moral outrage. He brings together a dizzying array of
texts and traditions—Jungian psychoanalysis, the Hebrew Bible and New
Testament, Frederick Nietzsche, Søren Kierkegaard and much else—to
formulate basic lessons, or “rules,” about how humans might overcome
their natural tendency to lassitude and savagery. His books, podcasts
and lectures are impressively argued, frequently insightful and
occasionally abrasive presentations of various principles of wise living.

I don’t share some of Mr. Peterson’s philosophical premises and find in
his work points of disagreement, but there is much to appreciate and
nothing sinister in them. Twenty years ago very few people would have
considered him the intellectual subversive and moral monster many now
claim him to be. A few rules from his latest book: “Do not do what you
hate,” “Work as hard as you possibly can on at least one thing and see
what happens,” “Try to make one room in your home as beautiful as possible.”
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Why has the political left taken a severe dislike to him? “A lot of my
popularity derives from YouTube,” he says in a phone interview, “and
YouTube skewed hard male for a long time, and is still mostly male. My
typical audience would probably be between 60/40 and 70/30 men to women.
There’s nothing conspiratorial about that, and it wasn’t because I was
talking specifically to young men. It might be that they’re more
desperate for what I’m saying.”

The stereotypical Peterson fan, it’s probably fair to say, is a young
white male whose life lacked structure and discipline but heard Mr.
Peterson’s lectures and began to reorder his life. Mr. Peterson insists,
though, that his critics caricature his audience for their own ends.
“There’s this hypothetical group that I’m helping,” he says: “angry,
alienated, disenfranchised white-supremacist young males. First of all,
that’s a lie. Second, even if it is disenfranchised young males who are
primarily responding to what I’m saying, is there really something wrong
with me talking to them? Are they so beneath contempt that they don’t
deserve anyone’s attention?”

Those who despise Mr. Peterson think of him as a member of “the right”
or even “the far right.” I wouldn’t describe him as a conservative—his
interest lies in individual rather than societal order, and he says
little about public policy. But it’s true that he not infrequently winds
up holding conservative viewpoints on cultural matters. In “Beyond
Order,” for example, he makes the case for marriage over cohabitation
and readily acknowledges that children do better in two-parent families
than in single-parent ones. He also writes and speaks frequently on the
differences between masculinity and femininity.

But what put Mr. Peterson in the crosshairs of North America’s cultural
arbiters was his vocal opposition to identity politics, and specifically
the totalitarian methods of militant transgenderism. In 2016 he ran
afoul of Bill C-16, legislation in the Canadian Parliament (later
enacted) that added “gender identity or expression” to the list of
prohibited grounds of discrimination. In the course of that controversy
Mr. Peterson remarked that he would refuse to use contrived pronouns in
his classes. “I regard these made-up pronouns, all of them, as
neologisms of a radical PC authoritarianism,” he said in 2016. “I’m not
going to be a mouthpiece for language I detest.”

Since then he has been denounced as racist, misogynist, fascist and
transphobic. Occasionally violent protests against him have taken place
on the University of Toronto campus, and he is regularly shouted down at
speaking events. When Penguin Random House Canada announced that it
would publish “Beyond Order,” its staff “confronted management,”
according to media reports, in a tearful town-hall meeting.

Contempt for the “working class” by North America’s “liberal educated
elite,” is a major reason for his popularity, he says. “There aren’t
very many people with an encouraging voice,” Mr. Peterson says. “Most of
the things you read by intellectuals—not all, but it’s a failing of
intellectuals—most of it is criticism. Look what you’re doing to the
planet. What a detestable bunch of wretches you are, with your rapacious
structures and your endless appetite and your desire for power. . . .
Look at what your ambition has done to the planet. How dare you!”

Mr. Peterson doesn’t directly challenge the substance of these dreary
criticisms. Rather he protests that they’re unnatural and unhealthy.
“The proper attitude toward young people is encouragement,” he
says—“their ambitions, their strivings, their desire to be competent,
their deep wish for a trustworthy guiding hand. I think our culture is
so cynical that it’s impossible, especially for the established
intellectual chattering critics, to even imagine that encouragement is
possible.”

When I ask what he thinks is driving the effort to destroy him and
others who hold heterodox views, he diagnoses his persecutors as though
they’re exactly the sort of young people who wander into his lectures or
buy his books looking for structure and purpose. His admirers and his
fiercest detractors are, in his mind, not so different from each other.

Part of what drives these young moralistic firebrands, he thinks, is the
despairing outlook of the contemporary left. “Whenever you see that
level of contempt manifest itself, that desire to flog and destroy, you
have to ask yourself: How deep is that? The idea that we’re a cancer on
the planet—well, what do you do with cancer? You eradicate it. I’ve
heard environmentally sensitive types say that, and it’s horrifying.
They’re completely blind to what they’re saying. If they weren’t blind
to it, they’d be traumatized by it.”

The mention of environmentalism brings to mind the cultish side of
modern progressivism. Is this desire to flog and destroy, as he puts it,
a sign of some twisted spiritual longing? “I think so,” Mr. Peterson
says. “The people who caricature Western society as a patriarchy, and
then describe it as evil, they’re possessed by a religious idea.” He
thinks the problem with modern enlightenment intellectuals—he names the
American philosopher Sam Harris, the British conservative writer Matt
Ridley and the British broadcaster and writer Stephen Fry, all
atheists—is that they offer no mythology, no “adventure.”

“They leave this nihilistic nothingness in their wake, and what
happens?” he says. “These kids turn to radical political correctness.”
Messrs. Harris, Ridley, Fry, et al. aren’t happy about political
correctness, Mr. Peterson notes, but “what did they expect to happen?
Did they expect these kids would settle for their insipid rationalism?”

This search for a metaphysical teleology denied young people by “insipid
rationalism,” in his view, is also “what motivates antifa and Black
Lives Matter and white nationalism and all these other romantic
revolutionary rebellions. It’s the romance and the heroism these
movements offer.” Mr. Peterson recalls the famous line of George Orwell
in his review of “Mein Kampf” in 1940: “Whereas Socialism, and even
capitalism in a more grudging way, have said to people ‘I offer you a
good time,’ Hitler has said to them ‘I offer you struggle, danger and
death,’ and as a result a whole nation flings itself at his feet.”

Taking Orwell’s terms “socialism” and “capitalism” both to mean,
roughly, life without transcendence or any hint of the supernatural, the
point seems defensible. Mr. Peterson thinks atheistic materialism has
nothing to compare to religious worldviews. Rather than telling people
simply not to do bad things, he says, “the right approach is to say to
them: Here’s a better adventure. Now go conquer your own demons.”

In the end, Mr. Peterson hasn’t been successfully canceled. He retains
his academic post; his YouTube lectures and podcasts have not been
scrubbed from the internet; and his publishers stuck with his books,
which are available for purchase. This is true for basically two
reasons. The first is that he has tried to understand his would-be
cancelers and thinks of them almost as outpatients. He speaks in gentle,
clinical terms about a reporter for the New York Times who in 2018 wrote
a scathing piece about him headlined “Jordan Peterson, Custodian of the
Patriarchy” and later posted online what sounded like a confession (“The
roar of Twitter on my side meant the kill was justified and good”). He
has, as best I can tell, genuine pity for this writer.

The second reason follows from the first. The cancelers’ strange
fixations mean that apologizing to them is folly. Mr. Peterson hasn’t
apologized or disavowed any previous statement. Now there’s a rule for
his next book: Don’t apologize when you haven’t done anything wrong.
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  74. 2021-05-13 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Corrupted packages
  75. 2021-05-13 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Corrupted packages
  76. 2021-05-13 artist <artist-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Corrupted packages
  77. 2021-05-13 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] service conf file changes
  78. 2021-05-12 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] autofs-s6
  79. 2021-05-11 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] autofs-s6
  80. 2021-05-11 Bryce Vandegrift <bpv-at-disroot.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Corrupted packages
  81. 2021-05-11 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] autofs-s6
  82. 2021-05-11 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Remmina not installing due to
  83. 2021-05-11 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Remmina not installing due to
  84. 2021-05-17 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #512 - Celebration Time
  85. 2021-05-17 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] New postgreSQL dump for 3.8 series
  86. 2021-05-18 Michael Drake <tlsa-at-netsurf-browser.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] Getting APNG support into
  87. 2021-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Stupid ideas keep coming from gnome
  88. 2021-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Syrians in Denmark asked to leave...
  89. 2021-05-18 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] thunderbird-artix not able to
  90. 2021-05-19 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Problem with install
  91. 2021-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Problem with install instructions
  92. 2021-05-24 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #513 - Perl 5.34.0 is now available!
  93. 2021-05-25 From: =?windows-1250?Q?Jernej_Simon=E8i=E8?= Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Help
  94. 2021-05-25 From: "Greg Farough, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This Thursday at 13:00 EDT: Community meeting on
  95. 2021-05-27 ruth02-at-web.de Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?real_Ruben_or_doppelg=C3=A4nger_=3F?=
  96. 2021-05-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  97. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  98. 2021-05-27 Dave Stevens <geek-at-uniserve.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  99. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  100. 2021-05-27 Michael Richards via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  101. 2021-05-28 Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  102. 2021-05-28 Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  103. 2021-05-28 Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  104. 2021-05-28 Marco Ciampa via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  105. 2021-05-28 Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  106. 2021-05-28 Simon Budig <simon-at-budig.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  107. 2021-05-27 Norbert Preining via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  108. 2021-05-28 Bob Long <bob-at-oblong.com.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  109. 2021-05-25 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  110. 2021-05-27 Federico Mena Quintero <federico-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  111. 2021-05-26 Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  112. 2021-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  113. 2021-05-25 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  114. 2021-05-25 Michael Richards via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct -
  115. 2021-05-25 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  116. 2021-05-28 Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  117. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  118. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  119. 2021-05-28 Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  120. 2021-05-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  121. 2021-05-28 Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  122. 2021-05-22 From: "New York Sun" <editor-at-nysun.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Uncle Sam Gets Set To Dig into Your Bank Account
  123. 2021-05-28 Dave Stevens <geek-at-uniserve.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  124. 2021-05-28 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  125. 2021-05-28 Dave Stevens <geek-at-uniserve.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  126. 2021-05-28 Joseph A Nagy Jr via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  127. 2021-05-28 Joseph A Nagy Jr via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  128. 2021-05-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  129. 2021-05-28 From: "S. via gimp-user-list" <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of
  130. 2021-05-29 From: =?UTF-8?B?RMOhdmlkIFZpcsOhZw==?= <virag.david003-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How should I update the screen in an fbdev driver?
  131. 2021-05-29 Robert Heller <heller-at-deepsoft.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Mailman-Users] Is it my server or Yahoo's
  132. 2021-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] volunteers for openshot
  133. 2021-05-31 Edgar Hagenbichler <edgar.hagenbichler-at-hagenbichler.at> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health demo database at
  134. 2021-05-30 Kevin Cozens <kevin-at-ve3syb.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Script-fu in GIMP - and batch
  135. 2021-05-30 Alain Knaff <alain-at-knaff.lu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU mtools 4.0.28 released
  136. 2021-05-30 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Script-fu in GIMP - and batch
  137. 2021-05-30 ludo0565 <ludo0565-at-dbmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Script-fu in GIMP - and batch
  138. 2021-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Blues Away
  139. 2021-05-31 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health demo database at
  140. 2021-05-31 IEEE Engineering in Medicine and Biology Society <m.markowycz-at-ieee.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Reminder: Register Today! Upcoming IEEE
  141. 2021-05-31 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #514 - Is OOP bad?
  142. 2021-05-31 Alain Knaff <alain-at-knaff.lu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU mtools 4.0.29 released

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