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DATE 2004-08-01

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MESSAGE
DATE 2004-08-29
FROM Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] Is Linux too good to be true?

>

Eh - If anything this article show the process people emotionally go through
when switching systems. He's yet to really discvoer the real pearls of
Free SOftware and the expanssive advantages of the desk top.

When he no longer gives a shit if he can read Word Perfect files of not, you'll
know he's a keeper.

Ruben

>
>
> Typing "Linux" into Google gives about 109 million results. Surprisingly,
> that's five million more than searching for "Microsoft". But are potential
> users of the alternative operating system to Windows being enticed into
> making a decision they may later regret?
>
> Some Windows users are increasingly disillusioned with their computers. The
> internet no longer feels safe, thanks to viruses, spyware, trojans, hackers
> and pop-ups targeting features (and failings) in Microsoft software. Going
> online these days using Internet Explorer is like walking into a minefield.
>
> But what choice does anybody have? Microsoft's monopoly of the consumer
> desktop is near total. While some applications can be changed - Corel
> WordPerfect instead of Microsoft Word perhaps - this only tinkers with the
> problem. Windows has your PC in a tight grip.
>
> The word to consider here is proprietary. Windows belongs to Microsoft,
> lock, stock and security vulnerability. Apple computers (just over a million
> Google results) are proprietary too: a great choice for Windows refugees but
> not a radical one. For real change, there is only one answer - Linux. It's
> open source, generally free to use and share and is not controlled by a
> single company. Its penguin mascot is cute too.
>
> In the business world, Linux is causing a stir as firms move to a new
> operating system. Linux is more secure, offers greater choice and already
> powers web servers around the world. But can it deliver on home desktops
> too?
>
> The Canadian author Marcel Gagné thinks it can. He wrote an excellent book
> last year, Moving to Linux, sub-titled Kiss the Blue Screen of Death
> Goodbye. Gagné has included a bootable Linux CD-rom to turn your PC into a
> trial Linux system, yet leave Windows unharmed.
>
> Try out Linux like this and soon you'll want to go all the way. Wise newbies
> will install it alongside Windows, giving you the choice (and a return
> ticket) when switching on the PC. But when I tried Suse Linux 9.1, my
> personal Everest challenge of surmounting the Microsoft mountain left me
> struggling to get out of base camp.
>
> Linux didn't like my new flat-panel screen and insisted on unusable low
> resolutions. Much wasted time and online answer seeking (back in Windows)
> eventually saw 1280 x 1024 pixels again.
>
> How about connecting to the internet? Plug in and go... nowhere. My modem is
> an internal "softmodem", driven by Windows, and Linux wouldn't play. Much
> browsing later (in Windows, of course) and I had the right Conexant driver
> software, written by helpful Canadian company Linuxant.
>
> As you work through this early stuff, there's a nagging problem for Windows
> XP-ers. While Linux can (mostly) read your files, it cannot (yet) write them
> back into the Windows XP partition of your hard drive (which uses
> Microsoft's NTFS format). Windows ignores Linux and its UFS filesystem
> altogether, so you cannot retrieve work from there. Lateral thinking will
> have you reaching for a memory stick as a go-between; there are no problems
> burning CDs or plugging in Zip drives.
>
> To succeed, Linux has to do your everyday tasks well. My first target for
> program replacement was Microsoft's Outlook Express, infamous for
> vulnerabilities that allow viruses to strike from the preview pane. Suse had
> given me Kmail - part of the KDE desktop. But I had my eye on Mozilla as it
> offered email, a browser and a web page composer. I easily installed Mozilla
> (you can get it for Windows too) and was immediately hooked by tabbed,
> menace-proof browsing.
>
> Onward and upward, and another sheer face of incompatibility. Outlook
> Express stores its email messages in a proprietary format. Mozilla can't
> import them; but KDE's Kmail can. Using Kmail, I imported the messages into
> the Unix "mbox" format, then copied the mbox files from Kmail into the
> Mozilla mail store using the superb Linux file manager-cum-browser,
> Konqueror.
>
> Things are still tricky for word-processing, spreadsheets and the like. If
> you're a Microsoft Office user, OpenOffice provides no-frills basics.
> Diehard Corel WordPerfect fans will discover that OpenOffice won't read
> their files without a hard-to-install add-on. I tried installing Kword (part
> of KDE Office) to find it opened WordPerfect documents with unacceptably
> ragged results. This left me no choice (other than Windows), but to write
> this feature using OpenOffice.
>
> I could go on. And on. There's stuff that's much better than Windows, and
> stuff that isn't. Linux is unfinished business without the panache of
> Windows XP. There are compensations; open source is an embarrassment of
> riches. You don't need to buy an expensive application for occasional jobs
> anymore.
>
> Here's what I need to do next. Find a word processor that reads my
> WordPerfect files properly and offers a word count on selected text. I'd
> like a replacement voice-dictation program too (if one exists). Learn how to
> use Wine - a clever way of running Windows programs under Linux - for my
> accounts program. See if the scanner behaves, read the manuals (again) and
> try out more programs.
>
> Will I give up Windows altogether? Probably. The more I use Linux, the
> better I like it despite the challenges. It hasn't crashed; it's immune to
> Windows viruses; it won't fall victim to spyware, worms or hackers; and it
> feels (and looks) refreshingly different. But best of all, Linux promises
> greater choice at less cost. Just give it time to climb more of the Windows
> mountain.
>
> 'Moving to Linux' by Marcel Gagné is published by Addison-Wesley, £26.99
>
>
>
>
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  1. 2004-08-31 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Assembly
  2. 2004-08-31 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Assembly
  3. 2004-08-31 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Assembly
  4. 2004-08-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Assembly
  5. 2004-08-31 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Assembly
  6. 2004-08-31 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Mepis
  7. 2004-08-31 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Mepis
  8. 2004-08-31 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Mepis
  9. 2004-08-31 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Mepis
  10. 2004-08-31 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Mepis
  11. 2004-08-31 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mepis
  12. 2004-08-31 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mepis
  13. 2004-08-31 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Mepis
  14. 2004-08-31 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mepis
  15. 2004-08-31 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Mepis
  16. 2004-08-31 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mepis
  17. 2004-08-31 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mepis
  18. 2004-08-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mepis
  19. 2004-08-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [malmonte-at-searchedp.com: Oracle DBA]
  20. 2004-08-31 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mepis
  21. 2004-08-31 mike hjorleifsson <mikeh-at-dtev.com> Re: [hangout] Mepis
  22. 2004-08-31 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Exploiting the Potential of Linux
  23. 2004-08-31 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Software freedom day.
  24. 2004-08-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: when 0+1=1
  25. 2004-08-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GTK: When 0 + 1 = 0
  26. 2004-08-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GTK: When 0 + 1 = 0
  27. 2004-08-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] App tests for Win XP SP2 burden users
  28. 2004-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Software freedom day.
  29. 2004-08-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Software freedom day.
  30. 2004-08-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Migrating Windows to Linux -- and back -- and forth
  31. 2004-08-30 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Software freedom day.
  32. 2004-08-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: information on New York Linux Scene
  33. 2004-08-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Is Linux too good to be true?
  34. 2004-08-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] SFD
  35. 2004-08-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Is Linux too good to be true?
  36. 2004-08-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Reiser4 is released!
  37. 2004-08-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Software Freedom Day 2004 - Sat Aug 28, 2004 (Public Transportati on
  38. 2004-08-24 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [NMLUG] Re: allofmp3.com (ru)
  39. 2004-08-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] So you think you know Unix
  40. 2004-08-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] SFD 2004 - Need Help Picking Up Completed CDs and M
  41. 2004-08-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SFD 2004 - Need Help Picking Up Completed CDs and Materials
  42. 2004-08-24 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Projector screen
  43. 2004-08-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] SFD 2004 - Need Help Picking Up Completed CDs and M
  44. 2004-08-24 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] SFD 2004 - Need Help Picking Up Completed CDs and Materials
  45. 2004-08-24 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] SFD 2004 - Need Help Picking Up Completed CDs and
  46. 2004-08-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] SFD 2004 - Need Help Picking Up Completed CDs and M aterials
  47. 2004-08-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] SFD 2004 - Need Help Picking Up Completed CDs and M
  48. 2004-08-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] SFD 2004 - Need Help Picking Up Completed CDs and M
  49. 2004-08-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SFD 2004 - Need Help Picking Up Completed CDs and Materials
  50. 2004-08-24 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] SFD 2004 - Need Help Picking Up Completed CDs and
  51. 2004-08-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [NMLUG] Re: allofmp3.com (ru)
  52. 2004-08-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SFD 2004 - Need Help Picking Up Completed CDs and Materials
  53. 2004-08-23 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] free culture
  54. 2004-08-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [NMLUG] Re: allofmp3.com (ru)
  55. 2004-08-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Posting flyers
  56. 2004-08-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] New York State Fair - Aug 26 - Sept 06, 2004
  57. 2004-08-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYS County Fairs (Still some left before end of Summer)
  58. 2004-08-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Posting flyers
  59. 2004-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Data to Callback Functions
  60. 2004-08-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Data to Callback Functions
  61. 2004-08-22 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Windows users are reminded that MS products are faulty.
  62. 2004-08-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Freedom is in the AIR!!
  63. 2004-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] repacking boxes and keeping a handle on the toplevel window and all it's chidren
  64. 2004-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GTK Documentation error
  65. 2004-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] sven-at-gimp.org: Re: GTK Documentation error
  66. 2004-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GTK Documentation error
  67. 2004-08-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Freedom is in the AIR!!
  68. 2004-08-22 Derrick Lewis <lewisdj-at-bc.edu> Re: [hangout] Freedom is in the AIR!!
  69. 2004-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Freedom is in the AIR!!
  70. 2004-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Buying Linux System out of the Box
  71. 2004-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft Efforts to undermine Free Software
  72. 2004-08-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Movie Studios Lose In Case Against File-Sharing Apps
  73. 2004-08-21 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Posting flyers
  74. 2004-08-20 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Posting flyers
  75. 2004-08-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Define an operating system.
  76. 2004-08-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Define an operating system.
  77. 2004-08-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] OSDL introduces improved Linux kernel development tool
  78. 2004-08-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Makefile problem
  79. 2004-08-19 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [Politics] Typical Bush method of handling the press.] (fwd)
  80. 2004-08-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Define an operating system.
  81. 2004-08-19 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] Define an operating system.
  82. 2004-08-19 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Compiler.
  83. 2004-08-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GTK Clinical Application Development
  84. 2004-08-18 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Compiler.
  85. 2004-08-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Compiler.
  86. 2004-08-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Makefile problem
  87. 2004-08-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Getting Linux off the Ground
  88. 2004-08-18 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Compiler.
  89. 2004-08-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Compiler.
  90. 2004-08-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Compiler.
  91. 2004-08-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Compiler.
  92. 2004-08-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Compiler.
  93. 2004-08-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Winners of Product Excellence Awards Announced at L
  94. 2004-08-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Winners of Product Excellence Awards Announced at LinuxWorld Conf erence & Expo
  95. 2004-08-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Upcoming August / Sept 2004 Meetings - Various LUGS (Other than N
  96. 2004-08-17 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] RE: Software Freedom Day 2004 Posters/ Handouts/Flyers etc
  97. 2004-08-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] projector
  98. 2004-08-16 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] projector
  99. 2004-08-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] projector
  100. 2004-08-16 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] projector
  101. 2004-08-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Software Freedom Day (fwd)
  102. 2004-08-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Explain this to me.
  103. 2004-08-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Explain this to me.
  104. 2004-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Explain this to me.
  105. 2004-08-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Yellow Dog Bites Back
  106. 2004-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Explain this to me.
  107. 2004-08-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Explain this to me.
  108. 2004-08-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Board Meeting and NYLXS Map for the next Month
  109. 2004-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Yellow Dog Bites Back
  110. 2004-08-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting and NYLXS Map for the next Month
  111. 2004-08-16 Derrick Lewis <lewisdj-at-bc.edu> Subject: [hangout] Cheap Place to Buy Rackmount Servers
  112. 2004-08-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] BAN THE IRANIANS - NOW!
  113. 2004-08-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Yellow Dog Bites Back
  114. 2004-08-16 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Yellow Dog Bites Back
  115. 2004-08-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Yellow Dog Bites Back
  116. 2004-08-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting and NYLXS Map for the next Month
  117. 2004-08-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Software Freedom Day (fwd)
  118. 2004-08-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Software Freedom Day (fwd)
  119. 2004-08-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl Web Applications Developer (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  120. 2004-08-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Senior Perl/Mason Web software developer (onsite), United States, NY, Park Slope, Brooklyn]
  121. 2004-08-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] M1 Abrams tank is powered by a gas turbine.
  122. 2004-08-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] M1 Abrams tank is powered by a gas turbine.
  123. 2004-08-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: business
  124. 2004-08-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today
  125. 2004-08-10 Shani Safir <shani-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] imtesting mutt
  126. 2004-08-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fw: [NMLUG] SSH bot going around
  127. 2004-08-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] pet projects??
  128. 2004-08-10 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] pet projects??
  129. 2004-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] pet projects??
  130. 2004-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: RE: I want to donate computers]
  131. 2004-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  132. 2004-08-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  133. 2004-08-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  134. 2004-08-10 Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  135. 2004-08-10 Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  136. 2004-08-10 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] pet projects??
  137. 2004-08-10 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] pet projects??
  138. 2004-08-10 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> RE: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  139. 2004-08-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS August 2004 Events (More to Come!)
  140. 2004-08-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM Linux LPI On-Line Courses
  141. 2004-08-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Developing Nations See Linux as a Savior From Microsoft's Grip
  142. 2004-08-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  143. 2004-08-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] HP unveils Linux-based laptop
  144. 2004-08-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Winners of Product Excellence Awards Announced at LinuxWorld Conf
  145. 2004-08-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] 'Thin client' computing pushed as Windows alternative
  146. 2004-08-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl/Mason/Alzabo Programmer (telecommute), United States]
  147. 2004-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Novell-at-sy10.net: You're Invited: Linux in Your Enterprise Webinars by Novell]
  148. 2004-08-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Promo Printed Materials Needed
  149. 2004-08-04 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Promo Printed Materials Needed
  150. 2004-08-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] DVD-copying trailblazer shuts its doors
  151. 2004-08-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell's SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9 Marks Major Step Forward in
  152. 2004-08-04 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Trade deal exports DMCA down under (fwd)
  153. 2004-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nived_g-at-hotmail.com: Linare Linux Professional Edition]
  154. 2004-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting
  155. 2004-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ls weirdness
  156. 2004-08-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Yoper - The Fastest Linux
  157. 2004-08-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Novell/SuSE offer
  158. 2004-08-03 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Nasty Company
  159. 2004-08-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell/SuSE offer
  160. 2004-08-02 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell/SuSE offer
  161. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Study: Linux may infringe on 283 patents
  162. 2004-08-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  163. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open-Xchange Moves to Open Source License
  164. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell to debut server Linux update
  165. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Sun mulls buying Novell
  166. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Xandros To Roll Out Myriad Servers After Desktop Release
  167. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  168. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  169. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  170. 2004-08-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  171. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  172. 2004-08-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  173. 2004-08-02 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  174. 2004-08-02 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  175. 2004-08-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  176. 2004-08-01 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  177. 2004-08-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] SysAdmin to SysAdmin: It's the documentation, stupi d!
  178. 2004-08-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  179. 2004-08-01 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  180. 2004-08-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?

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