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MESSAGE
DATE 2004-08-21
FROM Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Microsoft Efforts to undermine Free Software

EW YORK\x{2014}Microsoft Corp. is quietly working on a new initiative,
internally code-named Mission Critical Microsoft, to help fight the
rising specter of Linux running on enterprise mainframes.

ADVERTISEMENT

"Mission Critical Microsoft is an internal initiative, but it will
probably result in a new program announcement from Microsoft within the
next year," Paul Corriveau, group product manager for Windows Servers,
told eWEEK.com at the IBM SHARE conference here.

The resulting program will replace Microsoft's existing tech support
and maintenance offering in the data center space, according to
Corriveau. Microsoft's existing partner program for data center
implementations will be impacted, too.

"Microsoft wants to beat Windows to the high end. In fact, I'd say that
we already have," Corriveau said.

Under the current Mission Critical Microsoft initiative, Microsoft is
"realigning its resources" in areas such as tech support, maintenance
and marketing to better meet the needs of enterprise data center
managers, who are typically more accustomed to working with mainframes
than PC servers.

Click here to read about Microsoft's latest update to its mainframe
connectivity server.

Microsoft's overriding plan is to focus on "solutions" such as
enterprise resource planning, customer relationship management or
business intelligence, rather than on "applications," he said.

Also under the upcoming program, Microsoft will figure in
"supportability requirements" when planning deployments. "We're going
to start offering our customers SLAs [service-level agreements], too.
This is something they've been requesting from us for a long time," he
added.

Corriveau didn't discount the possibility that pricing for data center
services might rise as well.

As the plan moves ahead, Microsoft will continue to use long-time
systems integrator partners such as IBM Global Services, Accenture
Ltd., Unisys Corp. and Hewlett-Packard Co. to deploy and maintain its
top-end software. "But we'll be realigning our efforts there, too, and
we might be adding some more partners," Corriveau said.

Microsoft didn't overtly promote Mission Critical Microsoft at SHARE, a
week-long conference traditionally geared toward enterprise mainframe
administrators. But Windows and Linux were both highly visible at the
week-long show, which draws a large crowd of IT professionals,
especially systems administrators in New York's financial community.

SHARE attendees at the show reacted positively when they heard about
the new initiative.

"Very good!" said Robert Dio, a systems administrator from Delta Dental
Plan. "If solutions are going to be more important now, that means
Microsoft has been listening to what we've been telling them. When we
have a problem, we want a solution, not an application."

Another user, a security manager for an enterprise specializing in
printing services for banks, pointed out that data center managers
often hold perspectives quite different from those of the departmental
Windows administrators who traditionally handle Windows servers. "A lot
of mainframe administrators have the concept that PC servers aren't yet
ready for primetime," said the user, who requested anonymity.

He pointed to several factors that could be responsible for this "data
center mindset," including different schooling for data center
managers, different support programs for mainframes vs. PC servers, the
need for mission critical applications to stay up and running all the
time, and the fact that many PC servers have been introduced by staff
outside the data center.

"At many companies, the 'glass house' is now broken. You might see [PC
servers] in the data center, but you might find them everywhere else,
too, sometimes outside the firewall," he added.

But he also said he has installed Windows XP SP2 on two of his own
laptops without any problems so far, and he gave credit to Microsoft
for making recent strides on the security side. "Actually, Linux is
more vulnerable than Windows to worms," he contended.

On Wednesday of this week, SHARE held "Microsoft Day." Other
Windows-oriented sessions went on throughout the week, including at
least two seminars delivered by IBM. Other sessions at SHARE covered
Linux, open source and MVS mainframe operating environments.
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  109. 2004-08-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Yellow Dog Bites Back
  110. 2004-08-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting and NYLXS Map for the next Month
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  115. 2004-08-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Yellow Dog Bites Back
  116. 2004-08-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting and NYLXS Map for the next Month
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  118. 2004-08-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Software Freedom Day (fwd)
  119. 2004-08-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl Web Applications Developer (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  120. 2004-08-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Senior Perl/Mason Web software developer (onsite), United States, NY, Park Slope, Brooklyn]
  121. 2004-08-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] M1 Abrams tank is powered by a gas turbine.
  122. 2004-08-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] M1 Abrams tank is powered by a gas turbine.
  123. 2004-08-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: business
  124. 2004-08-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today
  125. 2004-08-10 Shani Safir <shani-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] imtesting mutt
  126. 2004-08-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fw: [NMLUG] SSH bot going around
  127. 2004-08-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] pet projects??
  128. 2004-08-10 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] pet projects??
  129. 2004-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] pet projects??
  130. 2004-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: RE: I want to donate computers]
  131. 2004-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  132. 2004-08-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  133. 2004-08-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  134. 2004-08-10 Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  135. 2004-08-10 Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  136. 2004-08-10 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] pet projects??
  137. 2004-08-10 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] pet projects??
  138. 2004-08-10 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> RE: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  139. 2004-08-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS August 2004 Events (More to Come!)
  140. 2004-08-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM Linux LPI On-Line Courses
  141. 2004-08-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Developing Nations See Linux as a Savior From Microsoft's Grip
  142. 2004-08-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Sunny Boy
  143. 2004-08-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] HP unveils Linux-based laptop
  144. 2004-08-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Winners of Product Excellence Awards Announced at LinuxWorld Conf
  145. 2004-08-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] 'Thin client' computing pushed as Windows alternative
  146. 2004-08-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl/Mason/Alzabo Programmer (telecommute), United States]
  147. 2004-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Novell-at-sy10.net: You're Invited: Linux in Your Enterprise Webinars by Novell]
  148. 2004-08-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Promo Printed Materials Needed
  149. 2004-08-04 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Promo Printed Materials Needed
  150. 2004-08-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] DVD-copying trailblazer shuts its doors
  151. 2004-08-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell's SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9 Marks Major Step Forward in
  152. 2004-08-04 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Trade deal exports DMCA down under (fwd)
  153. 2004-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nived_g-at-hotmail.com: Linare Linux Professional Edition]
  154. 2004-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting
  155. 2004-08-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ls weirdness
  156. 2004-08-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Yoper - The Fastest Linux
  157. 2004-08-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Novell/SuSE offer
  158. 2004-08-03 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Nasty Company
  159. 2004-08-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell/SuSE offer
  160. 2004-08-02 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell/SuSE offer
  161. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Study: Linux may infringe on 283 patents
  162. 2004-08-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  163. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open-Xchange Moves to Open Source License
  164. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell to debut server Linux update
  165. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Sun mulls buying Novell
  166. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Xandros To Roll Out Myriad Servers After Desktop Release
  167. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  168. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  169. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  170. 2004-08-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  171. 2004-08-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  172. 2004-08-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  173. 2004-08-02 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  174. 2004-08-02 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  175. 2004-08-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  176. 2004-08-01 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  177. 2004-08-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] SysAdmin to SysAdmin: It's the documentation, stupi d!
  178. 2004-08-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  179. 2004-08-01 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
  180. 2004-08-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?

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