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| DATE | 2002-11-11 |
| FROM | From:
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] board of directorsnext en OS
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I sent an email to Liz yesterday but have'nt heard from her.
Joe
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:07:24 -0500 (EST) "Joseph A. Maffia"
wrote:
>
> Joe,
> will do.
>
> Joe
>
> On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Joe Villari wrote:
>
> > Joe
> >
> > If Liz can't do this, just give me the
> location of the files
> > conatining the information and I'll do it.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > >Ruben,
> > >The members corner only lists the committee
> structure. It should list the
> > >title and name. Also, the final bylaws and
> mission statement doesn't
> > >appear anywhere. It concerns me that we
> don't have this info listed.
> > >How can I help?
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >
> > >On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Ruben I Safir wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2002.11.09 17:03 Joseph A. Maffia
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ruben,
> > > > > Please list the board of director on
> the website. It appears that only
> > > > > certain members are listed in the
> members corner.
> > > > >
> > > > > We should list with links to bios and
> email address - all board and
> > > > > committee chairs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Michael Richardson
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is more than one file cabinet
> maker. I can get standing, rolling,
> > > > > > front opening, side opening, rotating
> and a host of other
> > >option witch would
> > > > > > not be available if there was only
> one cabinet maker
> > >(remember Henry Ford
> > > > > > "you can have a Ford any color you
> want so long as it is
> > >black" If Ford was
> > > > > > the only car marker there would only
> be black cars).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ray Connolly
> [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 3:12 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; Ray
> Connolly
> > > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have always had a universal
> system: the file cabinet. You can still
> > > > > > taylor files, look, and feel the way
> you like. It is trying to
> > > > > > change/simplify *access* to our data.
> It's all about usability theory.
> > > > > > Regardless it has to be coded, which
> is why I asked if there was a free
> > > > > > software project. As it stands, the
> philosopher and builder
> > >is teaming with
> > > > > > the monopolist...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Michael Richardson
> [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 2:46 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Ray Connolly'
> > > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With the pen and paper I have a
> choice of the type of pen (ballpoint,
> > > > > > fountain, quill or other type, color
> of ink, paper (bond,
> > >linen, stock or
> > > > > > other type) color, size and weight.
> With legacy file
> > >systems you have the
> > > > > > choice of how the files look and are
> arranged. If all the
> > >information had
> > > > > > the same look, feel and arrangement I
> would get very bored.
> > >Variety is the
> > > > > > spice of life. With a universal
> system I would be unable to
> > >try new things
> > > > > > (no unapproved innovations) or a
> different way of doing something. A
> > > > > > universal platform is saying there is
> only one way to do things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ray Connolly
> [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 1:05 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; Ray
> Connolly
> > > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what are the options now beside the
> legacy file system model
> > >or a pen and
> > > > > > paper?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Michael Richardson
> [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 12:57 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Ray Connolly'; Michael
> Richardson
> > > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The idea that there should be only
> one way to store and view all
> > > > > > information.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ray Connolly
> [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 12:59 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'
> > > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what idea Mike? a new way to create,
> store, maintain, and
> > >recall data??????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Michael Richardson
> [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 12:53 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Ray Connolly'; 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this idea removes a persons freedom
> to chose.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ray Connolly
> [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 12:00 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i don't get ur point
> > > > > > this is not a *new* idea
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Michael Richardson
> [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 11:48 AM
> > > > > > To: 'Ray Connolly'; 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What ever you are on can I have some?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ray Connolly
> [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 11:39 AM
> > > > > > To: 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are there any comprable free software
> projects like this? As
> > >great as this
> > > > > > sound his view of good and bad is
> scary...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/07/technology/circuits/07soft.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Forget the Files and the Folders: Let
> Your Screen Reflect Life
> > > > > > By DAVID GELERNTER
> > > > > >
> > > > > > THE end of the Microsoft trial is
> great news whatever you think of the
> > > > > > defendant - because the trial was all
> about the past, and we in the
> > > > > > technology world have no more time to
> waste on that topic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The trial focused on Microsoft's
> Windows operating system -
> > >on the power
> > > > > > Microsoft gets from Windows' huge
> worldwide penetration; on
> > >the burdens that
> > > > > > other software companies bear because
> of their limited access
> > >to the Windows
> > > > > > software; on accusations that
> Microsoft was suppressing innovation. The
> > > > > > courts have officially labeled the
> gigantic software company
> > >a monopoly, and
> > > > > > Microsoft will be subject to careful
> scrutiny for abusive activity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meaanwhile, operating systems are
> lapsing into senile irrelevance. An
> > > > > > operating system connects the user
> (and the user's software)
> > >to the ensemble
> > > > > > of machines we call a computer. But
> nowadays users no longer want to be
> > > > > > connected to computers. They want to
> be connected to
> > >information, a claim
> > > > > > that sounds vague but is clear and
> specific.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Every piece of digital information
> you own or share will
> > >appear (in the near
> > > > > > future) in one universal structure.
> (Just ask Bill Gates: as he said
> > > > > > cogently last July, "Why are my
> document files stored one
> > >way, my contacts
> > > > > > another way and my e-mail and
> instant-messaging buddy list
> > >still another,
> > > > > > and why aren't they related to my
> calendar or to one another,
> > >and easy to
> > > > > > search en masse?") A universal
> structure demands universal
> > >access: you'll be
> > > > > > able to tune in this structure from
> any Net-connected
> > >computer anywhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have time for only one screen in my
> life. That screen had
> > >better give me
> > > > > > access to everything, everywhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is this universal information
> structure? A narrative stream, which
> > > > > > says, "Let me tell you a story. " The
> system shows you a 3-D stream of
> > > > > > electronic documents flowing through
> time. The future (where
> > >you store your
> > > > > > calendar, reminders, plans) flows
> into the present (where you
> > >keep material
> > > > > > you're working on right now) and on
> into the past (where every e-mail
> > > > > > message and draft, digital photo,
> application, virtual
> > >Rolodex card, video
> > > > > > and audio clip and Web bookmark is
> stored, in addition to all
> > >those calendar
> > > > > > notes and reminders that used to be
> part of the future and
> > >have since flowed
> > > > > > into the past to be archived
> forever).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And so the organization of your
> digital information reflects
> > >the shape of
> > > > > > your life, not the shape of a 1940's
> Steelcase file cabinet.
> > >Storage space
> > > > > > and computing power are dirt cheap;
> our task isn't to "use them
> > > > > > efficiently," it's to "squander them
> creatively." Instead of searching
> > > > > > through your stream for some
> document, you focus it (as if
> > >you were focusing
> > > > > > an information beam - which is like a
> flashlight beam cutting
> > >through the
> > > > > > digital fog, except that the beam is
> made of information
> > >instead of light).
> > > > > > You wind up with a selection of
> documents, a "substream" that
> > >tells some
> > > > > > particular story. Your narrative
> stream as a whole consists of all the
> > > > > > interwoven stories that make up your
> life - your own personal
> > >ones as well
> > > > > > as the stories of all the groups and
> communities you belong to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This kind of information management
> is simpler, more powerful and more
> > > > > > natural than the Steelcase-inspired
> software we've got today
> > >- the files,
> > > > > > the folders, the desktops and all
> those other high-tech
> > >office accessories
> > > > > > straight out of 1946.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do I know it will work? Because
> our company has built it,
> > >and it does.
> > > > > > (A preliminary desktop version of
> narrative information
> > >management can be
> > > > > > downloaded free at our Web site,
> www.scopeware.com.)
> > >Microsoft has similar
> > > > > > goals for its Longhorn system, but
> Longhorn won't be available for two
> > > > > > years. We needed one-screen narrative
> information management
> > >yesterday. Our
> > > > > > software is up and running today.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Windows is no tool for the future and
> doesn't claim to be. Technology's
> > > > > > future can't possibly be based on
> treating computers as if they were
> > > > > > hyped-up desks and file cabinets -
> passive pieces of ugly furniture.
> > > > > > Computers are active machines, and
> information-management software had
> > > > > > better treat them that way. But
> Windows can play a central
> > >role in giving
> > > > > > the future a leg up. It can supply a
> stable, ubiquitous
> > >platform for the
> > > > > > future to stand on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We built our system on Microsoft
> Windows because Windows is a reliable,
> > > > > > solid, reasonably priced, nearly
> universal platform - and for
> > >the software
> > > > > > future, "universal" is nonnegotiable.
> We need to run the
> > >system on as many
> > > > > > computers as possible and manage the
> maximum range of
> > >electronic documents.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course, another operating system,
> Linux, is also clamoring
> > >for attention.
> > > > > > Linux and Windows are both children
> of the 70's: Linux grew
> > >out of Unix,
> > > > > > invented by AT&T; Windows is based on
> the revolutionary work of Xerox
> > > > > > research. In technology years, these
> loyal and devoted
> > >operating systems are
> > > > > > each approximately 4,820 years old.
> (Technology years are
> > >like dog years,
> > > > > > only shorter.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Each is nonetheless still solid
> enough to be a good, steady
> > >platform for the
> > > > > > next step in software. But Windows is
> the marketplace victor
> > >and has now won
> > > > > > a decisive legal imprimatur. There is
> no technical reason for
> > >us to move to
> > > > > > Linux; why should we switch? Why
> should our customers?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some argue for Linux on economic and
> cultural grounds:
> > >Microsoft, people
> > > > > > say, has driven up prices and
> suppressed innovation. But this
> > >is a ticklish
> > > > > > argument at best: after all, over the
> decade of Microsoft's hegemony,
> > > > > > computing power has grown cheaper and
> cheaper. Innovation has
> > >thrived. Our
> > > > > > software is innovative; it has not
> been suppressed. On the
> > >contrary, more
> > > > > > and more people get interested.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Operating systems are the moldy
> basements of computing. We
> > >used to live down
> > > > > > there, but are now moving upstairs to
> healthier quarters. We
> > >rely on the
> > > > > > courts and antitrust laws to keep
> Microsoft from abusing its
> > >enormous power.
> > > > > > We need Microsoft itself to be the
> universal stepladder that
> > >lets us climb
> > > > > > out of our hole and smell the roses.
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