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DATE 2002-11-11
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SUBJECT Re: [hangout] board of directorsnext en OS
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I sent an email to Liz yesterday but have'nt heard from her.

Joe

On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:07:24 -0500 (EST) "Joseph A. Maffia"
wrote:

>
> Joe,
> will do.
>
> Joe
>
> On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Joe Villari wrote:
>
> > Joe
> >
> > If Liz can't do this, just give me the
> location of the files
> > conatining the information and I'll do it.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > >Ruben,
> > >The members corner only lists the committee
> structure. It should list the
> > >title and name. Also, the final bylaws and
> mission statement doesn't
> > >appear anywhere. It concerns me that we
> don't have this info listed.
> > >How can I help?
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >
> > >On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Ruben I Safir wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2002.11.09 17:03 Joseph A. Maffia
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ruben,
> > > > > Please list the board of director on
> the website. It appears that only
> > > > > certain members are listed in the
> members corner.
> > > > >
> > > > > We should list with links to bios and
> email address - all board and
> > > > > committee chairs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Michael Richardson
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is more than one file cabinet
> maker. I can get standing, rolling,
> > > > > > front opening, side opening, rotating
> and a host of other
> > >option witch would
> > > > > > not be available if there was only
> one cabinet maker
> > >(remember Henry Ford
> > > > > > "you can have a Ford any color you
> want so long as it is
> > >black" If Ford was
> > > > > > the only car marker there would only
> be black cars).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ray Connolly
> [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 3:12 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; Ray
> Connolly
> > > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have always had a universal
> system: the file cabinet. You can still
> > > > > > taylor files, look, and feel the way
> you like. It is trying to
> > > > > > change/simplify *access* to our data.
> It's all about usability theory.
> > > > > > Regardless it has to be coded, which
> is why I asked if there was a free
> > > > > > software project. As it stands, the
> philosopher and builder
> > >is teaming with
> > > > > > the monopolist...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Michael Richardson
> [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 2:46 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Ray Connolly'
> > > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With the pen and paper I have a
> choice of the type of pen (ballpoint,
> > > > > > fountain, quill or other type, color
> of ink, paper (bond,
> > >linen, stock or
> > > > > > other type) color, size and weight.
> With legacy file
> > >systems you have the
> > > > > > choice of how the files look and are
> arranged. If all the
> > >information had
> > > > > > the same look, feel and arrangement I
> would get very bored.
> > >Variety is the
> > > > > > spice of life. With a universal
> system I would be unable to
> > >try new things
> > > > > > (no unapproved innovations) or a
> different way of doing something. A
> > > > > > universal platform is saying there is
> only one way to do things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ray Connolly
> [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 1:05 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; Ray
> Connolly
> > > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what are the options now beside the
> legacy file system model
> > >or a pen and
> > > > > > paper?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Michael Richardson
> [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 12:57 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Ray Connolly'; Michael
> Richardson
> > > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The idea that there should be only
> one way to store and view all
> > > > > > information.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ray Connolly
> [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 12:59 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'
> > > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what idea Mike? a new way to create,
> store, maintain, and
> > >recall data??????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Michael Richardson
> [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 12:53 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Ray Connolly'; 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this idea removes a persons freedom
> to chose.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ray Connolly
> [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 12:00 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i don't get ur point
> > > > > > this is not a *new* idea
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Michael Richardson
> [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 11:48 AM
> > > > > > To: 'Ray Connolly'; 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What ever you are on can I have some?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ray Connolly
> [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002
> 11:39 AM
> > > > > > To: 'nylxs'
> > > > > > Subject: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are there any comprable free software
> projects like this? As
> > >great as this
> > > > > > sound his view of good and bad is
> scary...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/07/technology/circuits/07soft.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Forget the Files and the Folders: Let
> Your Screen Reflect Life
> > > > > > By DAVID GELERNTER
> > > > > >
> > > > > > THE end of the Microsoft trial is
> great news whatever you think of the
> > > > > > defendant - because the trial was all
> about the past, and we in the
> > > > > > technology world have no more time to
> waste on that topic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The trial focused on Microsoft's
> Windows operating system -
> > >on the power
> > > > > > Microsoft gets from Windows' huge
> worldwide penetration; on
> > >the burdens that
> > > > > > other software companies bear because
> of their limited access
> > >to the Windows
> > > > > > software; on accusations that
> Microsoft was suppressing innovation. The
> > > > > > courts have officially labeled the
> gigantic software company
> > >a monopoly, and
> > > > > > Microsoft will be subject to careful
> scrutiny for abusive activity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meaanwhile, operating systems are
> lapsing into senile irrelevance. An
> > > > > > operating system connects the user
> (and the user's software)
> > >to the ensemble
> > > > > > of machines we call a computer. But
> nowadays users no longer want to be
> > > > > > connected to computers. They want to
> be connected to
> > >information, a claim
> > > > > > that sounds vague but is clear and
> specific.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Every piece of digital information
> you own or share will
> > >appear (in the near
> > > > > > future) in one universal structure.
> (Just ask Bill Gates: as he said
> > > > > > cogently last July, "Why are my
> document files stored one
> > >way, my contacts
> > > > > > another way and my e-mail and
> instant-messaging buddy list
> > >still another,
> > > > > > and why aren't they related to my
> calendar or to one another,
> > >and easy to
> > > > > > search en masse?") A universal
> structure demands universal
> > >access: you'll be
> > > > > > able to tune in this structure from
> any Net-connected
> > >computer anywhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have time for only one screen in my
> life. That screen had
> > >better give me
> > > > > > access to everything, everywhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is this universal information
> structure? A narrative stream, which
> > > > > > says, "Let me tell you a story. " The
> system shows you a 3-D stream of
> > > > > > electronic documents flowing through
> time. The future (where
> > >you store your
> > > > > > calendar, reminders, plans) flows
> into the present (where you
> > >keep material
> > > > > > you're working on right now) and on
> into the past (where every e-mail
> > > > > > message and draft, digital photo,
> application, virtual
> > >Rolodex card, video
> > > > > > and audio clip and Web bookmark is
> stored, in addition to all
> > >those calendar
> > > > > > notes and reminders that used to be
> part of the future and
> > >have since flowed
> > > > > > into the past to be archived
> forever).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And so the organization of your
> digital information reflects
> > >the shape of
> > > > > > your life, not the shape of a 1940's
> Steelcase file cabinet.
> > >Storage space
> > > > > > and computing power are dirt cheap;
> our task isn't to "use them
> > > > > > efficiently," it's to "squander them
> creatively." Instead of searching
> > > > > > through your stream for some
> document, you focus it (as if
> > >you were focusing
> > > > > > an information beam - which is like a
> flashlight beam cutting
> > >through the
> > > > > > digital fog, except that the beam is
> made of information
> > >instead of light).
> > > > > > You wind up with a selection of
> documents, a "substream" that
> > >tells some
> > > > > > particular story. Your narrative
> stream as a whole consists of all the
> > > > > > interwoven stories that make up your
> life - your own personal
> > >ones as well
> > > > > > as the stories of all the groups and
> communities you belong to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This kind of information management
> is simpler, more powerful and more
> > > > > > natural than the Steelcase-inspired
> software we've got today
> > >- the files,
> > > > > > the folders, the desktops and all
> those other high-tech
> > >office accessories
> > > > > > straight out of 1946.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do I know it will work? Because
> our company has built it,
> > >and it does.
> > > > > > (A preliminary desktop version of
> narrative information
> > >management can be
> > > > > > downloaded free at our Web site,
> www.scopeware.com.)
> > >Microsoft has similar
> > > > > > goals for its Longhorn system, but
> Longhorn won't be available for two
> > > > > > years. We needed one-screen narrative
> information management
> > >yesterday. Our
> > > > > > software is up and running today.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Windows is no tool for the future and
> doesn't claim to be. Technology's
> > > > > > future can't possibly be based on
> treating computers as if they were
> > > > > > hyped-up desks and file cabinets -
> passive pieces of ugly furniture.
> > > > > > Computers are active machines, and
> information-management software had
> > > > > > better treat them that way. But
> Windows can play a central
> > >role in giving
> > > > > > the future a leg up. It can supply a
> stable, ubiquitous
> > >platform for the
> > > > > > future to stand on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We built our system on Microsoft
> Windows because Windows is a reliable,
> > > > > > solid, reasonably priced, nearly
> universal platform - and for
> > >the software
> > > > > > future, "universal" is nonnegotiable.
> We need to run the
> > >system on as many
> > > > > > computers as possible and manage the
> maximum range of
> > >electronic documents.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course, another operating system,
> Linux, is also clamoring
> > >for attention.
> > > > > > Linux and Windows are both children
> of the 70's: Linux grew
> > >out of Unix,
> > > > > > invented by AT&T; Windows is based on
> the revolutionary work of Xerox
> > > > > > research. In technology years, these
> loyal and devoted
> > >operating systems are
> > > > > > each approximately 4,820 years old.
> (Technology years are
> > >like dog years,
> > > > > > only shorter.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Each is nonetheless still solid
> enough to be a good, steady
> > >platform for the
> > > > > > next step in software. But Windows is
> the marketplace victor
> > >and has now won
> > > > > > a decisive legal imprimatur. There is
> no technical reason for
> > >us to move to
> > > > > > Linux; why should we switch? Why
> should our customers?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some argue for Linux on economic and
> cultural grounds:
> > >Microsoft, people
> > > > > > say, has driven up prices and
> suppressed innovation. But this
> > >is a ticklish
> > > > > > argument at best: after all, over the
> decade of Microsoft's hegemony,
> > > > > > computing power has grown cheaper and
> cheaper. Innovation has
> > >thrived. Our
> > > > > > software is innovative; it has not
> been suppressed. On the
> > >contrary, more
> > > > > > and more people get interested.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Operating systems are the moldy
> basements of computing. We
> > >used to live down
> > > > > > there, but are now moving upstairs to
> healthier quarters. We
> > >rely on the
> > > > > > courts and antitrust laws to keep
> Microsoft from abusing its
> > >enormous power.
> > > > > > We need Microsoft itself to be the
> universal stepladder that
> > >lets us climb
> > > > > > out of our hole and smell the roses.
> > > > > > ____________________________
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  5. 2002-11-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  6. 2002-11-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Network Meeting Tomorrow at Noon
  7. 2002-11-11 From: "Peter C. Norton" <spacey-nylug-at-lenin.nu> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Change in Date: Inservice
  8. 2002-11-11 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] Classes Flyers and PR
  9. 2002-11-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Classes Flyers and PR
  10. 2002-11-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] a few questions on the Journal
  11. 2002-11-11 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] a few questions on the Journal
  12. 2002-11-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Change in Date: Inservice
  13. 2002-11-11 Mordy Ovits <movits-at-bloomberg.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Change in Date: Inservice
  14. 2002-11-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Change in Date: Inservice
  15. 2002-11-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Change in Date: Inservice
  16. 2002-11-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: In Service Lecture & Business Network Meeting
  17. 2002-11-11 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> RE: [hangout] website builder question
  18. 2002-11-11 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] board of directorsnext en OS
  19. 2002-11-11 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] website builder question
  20. 2002-11-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] website builder question
  21. 2002-11-10 Gil Rosado <gil-at-grwebmasters.com> Subject: [hangout] website builder question
  22. 2002-11-10 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] board of directorsnext en OS
  23. 2002-11-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  24. 2002-11-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Queens Members?
  25. 2002-11-10 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] board of directorsnext en OS
  26. 2002-11-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA-Activists] Comments + Broad Overview of Exclusive Rights Approaches
  27. 2002-11-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [fairuse] NY Fair Use: Arena Outreach - Tomorrow at Brooklyn College
  28. 2002-11-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse] Re: [DMCA-Activists] Re: (DC 7/17) NY Arena Outreach, 11/3/02 [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  29. 2002-11-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Can't Ping Subnet Behind VPN
  30. 2002-11-08 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] November Member Memo
  31. 2002-11-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Demo Tape and review
  32. 2002-11-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mechanized Army
  33. 2002-11-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mechanized Army
  34. 2002-11-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Mechanized Army
  35. 2002-11-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fundraise Online: November 14 Workshop in NYC
  36. 2002-11-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Using Linux with Accounting Packages
  37. 2002-11-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Prior restraint of Digital Use
  38. 2002-11-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Prior restraint of Digital Use
  39. 2002-11-07 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] next en OS
  40. 2002-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Prior Restration and Digital Media
  41. 2002-11-07 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] next gen OS
  42. 2002-11-07 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] next gen OS
  43. 2002-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [rich.goodwin-at-cox.net: [novalug] LinkSys vulnerability!]
  44. 2002-11-07 Jean-Michel Smith <jsmith-at-kcco.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [DMCA-Activists] MSNBC / AP on "Trusted Computing"
  45. 2002-11-07 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] next gen OS
  46. 2002-11-07 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] next gen OS
  47. 2002-11-07 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] next gen OS
  48. 2002-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco call me
  49. 2002-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] [Fwd: FC: Consumer Alert on digital technology, consumers, copyright]
  50. 2002-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] [Fwd: FC: Consumer Alert on digital technology, consumers, copyright]
  51. 2002-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA-Activists] MSNBC / AP on "Trusted Computing"
  52. 2002-11-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Confirmation - LinuxWorld NY'03 Conference & Expo
  53. 2002-11-06 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Confirmation - LinuxWorld NY'03 Conference & Expo
  54. 2002-11-06 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] laptops
  55. 2002-11-06 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Fundraise Online: November 14 Workshop in NYC
  56. 2002-11-06 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Fundraise Online: November 14 Workshop in NYC
  57. 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] more TCO ammo for OSS
  58. 2002-11-06 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] more TCO ammo for OSS
  59. 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  60. 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  61. 2002-11-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  62. 2002-11-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  63. 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  64. 2002-11-06 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Halloween 7
  65. 2002-11-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Installfest
  66. 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hmmmm ... Maybe someone can explain this to me...
  67. 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Results
  68. 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Impending disaster for drm fight?
  69. 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Stake Holder Buttons
  70. 2002-11-06 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU/Linux and Small Businesses
  71. 2002-11-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Linux (I've seen it all now)
  72. 2002-11-06 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Stake Holder Buttons
  73. 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Other things
  74. 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Stake Holder Buttons
  75. 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] InstallFest Credits
  76. 2002-11-05 From: "gil rosado" <gr.music-at-verizon.net> Re: Fw: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] shell parser for /etc/passwdanyone?
  77. 2002-11-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] directions needed
  78. 2002-11-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout]
  79. 2002-11-05 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout]
  80. 2002-11-05 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Anti Freedom Laws and Their Pimps
  81. 2002-11-05 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [hangout] gpg
  82. 2002-11-05 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] gpg
  83. 2002-11-05 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] gpg
  84. 2002-11-05 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] gpg
  85. 2002-11-05 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] gpg
  86. 2002-11-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.0 disks for installfest
  87. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Gnomecal and Addressbook
  88. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Ruling and Free Software:E Moglin
  89. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Gnome Board
  90. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg
  91. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg
  92. 2002-11-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] gpg
  93. 2002-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg
  94. 2002-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [hangout] gpg]
  95. 2002-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg
  96. 2002-11-04 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [hangout] gpg
  97. 2002-11-04 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [hangout] gpg
  98. 2002-11-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Interesting Developments
  99. 2002-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Interesting Developments
  100. 2002-11-04 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Interesting Developments
  101. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Interesting Developments
  102. 2002-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy
  103. 2002-11-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy
  104. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy
  105. 2002-11-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy
  106. 2002-11-04 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Gnu/Linux maintainers protecting MPAA, Jack Valent & co
  107. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Gnu/Linux maintainers protecting MPAA, Jack Valent & co
  108. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg
  109. 2002-11-04 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] gpg
  110. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg
  111. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy
  112. 2002-11-04 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] gpg
  113. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg
  114. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg
  115. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg
  116. 2002-11-04 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] gpg
  117. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg
  118. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy
  119. 2002-11-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] gpg
  120. 2002-11-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy
  121. 2002-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [constant-at-indo.net.id: too stupid for Linux?]
  122. 2002-11-04 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Nvideo Cards
  123. 2002-11-04 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] class rings
  124. 2002-11-04 spam-killer-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] [jgleason-at-nylug.org: [nylug-announce] THE LINUX SOCIETY | November 2002 (fwd)]
  125. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting - Next Monday
  126. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI: New Class Schedules Up for December
  127. 2002-11-04 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Publicity for installfest
  128. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair use Meeting
  129. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair use Meeting
  130. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Gnu/Linux maintainers protecting MPAA, Jack Valent & co.
  131. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Gnu/Linux maintainers protecting MPAA, Jack Valent & co.
  132. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Jewery
  133. 2002-11-04 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Gnu/Linux maintainers protecting MPAA, Jack Valent & co.
  134. 2002-11-04 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] video for installfest
  135. 2002-11-04 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Jewery
  136. 2002-11-04 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fw: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] shell parser for /etc/passwd anyone?
  137. 2002-11-03 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Press
  138. 2002-11-03 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Nvideo Cards
  139. 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Press
  140. 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nvideo Cards
  141. 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Nvideo Cards
  142. 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jewery
  143. 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Why Jews Like Linux Thread
  144. 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] INSTALLFEST NYC
  145. 2002-11-03 From: "gil rosado" <gr.music-at-verizon.net> Fw: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] shell parser for /etc/passwd anyone?
  146. 2002-11-03 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] DMCA HORROR SHOW
  147. 2002-11-03 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.0 disks for installfest
  148. 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] gpg
  149. 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.0 disks for installfest
  150. 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.0 disks for installfest
  151. 2002-11-02 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.0 disks for installfest
  152. 2002-11-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] C class by Billy
  153. 2002-11-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] EDIT THE JOURNAL
  154. 2002-11-02 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Letter to the Site Editors, Letter to the Magazine Editors
  155. 2002-11-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Re: Class Schedule
  156. 2002-11-01 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dd correct for copying an iso image to hard disk?
  157. 2002-11-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Membership Night Out? It could work...
  158. 2002-11-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] error message under SUSE
  159. 2002-11-01 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] observations
  160. 2002-11-01 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Wireless Keyboards and mouse
  161. 2002-11-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] IBM and Linux - For Future Reference
  162. 2002-11-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Membership Night Out? It could work...
  163. 2002-11-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM and Linux - For Future Reference
  164. 2002-11-01 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] error message under SUSE-Update
  165. 2002-11-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: promotion
  166. 2002-11-20 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] Business Networking: Bronx
  167. 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] Business Networking: Bronx
  168. 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] databases
  169. 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jaboutboul-at-speakeasy.net: Re: [nylug-talk] Fwd: LinuxWorld NY 2003 Jan]
  170. 2002-11-20 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Celebrate the arts with me
  171. 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OSS and K-12 Education Analysis
  172. 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] This Morning's Follow up
  173. 2002-11-20 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] OSS and K-12 Education Analysis
  174. 2002-11-20 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] More from the DMCA
  175. 2002-11-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: promotion
  176. 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] WRDII: promotion
  177. 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning
  178. 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning
  179. 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning
  180. 2002-11-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning
  181. 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning
  182. 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: promotion
  183. 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] WRDII: promotion
  184. 2002-11-20 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux 1 class
  185. 2002-11-20 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: Union-Tribune
  186. 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning
  187. 2002-11-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning
  188. 2002-11-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning
  189. 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] WRDII: board meeing
  190. 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Networking: Bronx
  191. 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning
  192. 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning
  193. 2002-11-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Windows Refund Day II
  194. 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Fw: Windows Refund Day II
  195. 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] Re: Windows Refund Day II
  196. 2002-11-20 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: Windows Refund Day II
  197. 2002-11-23 Kiryl Hakhovich <administrator-at-bsolution.net> Re[2]: [hangout] OSS and K-12 Education Analysis
  198. 2002-11-26 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: Reply RE: [hangout] FSI- Stepping Up the Growth
  199. 2002-11-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] Business Networking: Bronx

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