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| DATE | 2002-11-10 |
| FROM | From: "Joseph A. Maffia"
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] board of directorsnext en OS
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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:07:24 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph A. Maffia"
To: Joe Villari
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Subject: Re: [hangout] board of directorsnext en OS
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Joe,
will do.
Joe
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Joe Villari wrote:
> Joe
>
> If Liz can't do this, just give me the location of the files
> conatining the information and I'll do it.
>
> Joe
>
> >Ruben,
> >The members corner only lists the committee structure. It should list the
> >title and name. Also, the final bylaws and mission statement doesn't
> >appear anywhere. It concerns me that we don't have this info listed.
> >How can I help?
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Ruben I Safir wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On 2002.11.09 17:03 Joseph A. Maffia wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ruben,
> > > > Please list the board of director on the website. It appears that only
> > > > certain members are listed in the members corner.
> > > >
> > > > We should list with links to bios and email address - all board and
> > > > committee chairs.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Michael Richardson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There is more than one file cabinet maker. I can get standing, rolling,
> > > > > front opening, side opening, rotating and a host of other
> >option witch would
> > > > > not be available if there was only one cabinet maker
> >(remember Henry Ford
> > > > > "you can have a Ford any color you want so long as it is
> >black" If Ford was
> > > > > the only car marker there would only be black cars).
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ray Connolly [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:12 PM
> > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; Ray Connolly
> > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We have always had a universal system: the file cabinet. You can still
> > > > > taylor files, look, and feel the way you like. It is trying to
> > > > > change/simplify *access* to our data. It's all about usability theory.
> > > > > Regardless it has to be coded, which is why I asked if there was a free
> > > > > software project. As it stands, the philosopher and builder
> >is teaming with
> > > > > the monopolist...
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 2:46 PM
> > > > > To: 'Ray Connolly'
> > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > With the pen and paper I have a choice of the type of pen (ballpoint,
> > > > > fountain, quill or other type, color of ink, paper (bond,
> >linen, stock or
> > > > > other type) color, size and weight. With legacy file
> >systems you have the
> > > > > choice of how the files look and are arranged. If all the
> >information had
> > > > > the same look, feel and arrangement I would get very bored.
> >Variety is the
> > > > > spice of life. With a universal system I would be unable to
> >try new things
> > > > > (no unapproved innovations) or a different way of doing something. A
> > > > > universal platform is saying there is only one way to do things.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ray Connolly [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:05 PM
> > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; Ray Connolly
> > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > what are the options now beside the legacy file system model
> >or a pen and
> > > > > paper?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:57 PM
> > > > > To: 'Ray Connolly'; Michael Richardson
> > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The idea that there should be only one way to store and view all
> > > > > information.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ray Connolly [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:59 PM
> > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'
> > > > > Cc: 'nylxs'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > what idea Mike? a new way to create, store, maintain, and
> >recall data??????
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:53 PM
> > > > > To: 'Ray Connolly'; 'nylxs'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > this idea removes a persons freedom to chose.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ray Connolly [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:00 PM
> > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'nylxs'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > i don't get ur point
> > > > > this is not a *new* idea
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:48 AM
> > > > > To: 'Ray Connolly'; 'nylxs'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What ever you are on can I have some?
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ray Connolly [mailto:RConnolly-at-natsource.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:39 AM
> > > > > To: 'nylxs'
> > > > > Subject: [hangout] next gen OS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there any comprable free software projects like this? As
> >great as this
> > > > > sound his view of good and bad is scary...
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/07/technology/circuits/07soft.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Forget the Files and the Folders: Let Your Screen Reflect Life
> > > > > By DAVID GELERNTER
> > > > >
> > > > > THE end of the Microsoft trial is great news whatever you think of the
> > > > > defendant - because the trial was all about the past, and we in the
> > > > > technology world have no more time to waste on that topic.
> > > > >
> > > > > The trial focused on Microsoft's Windows operating system -
> >on the power
> > > > > Microsoft gets from Windows' huge worldwide penetration; on
> >the burdens that
> > > > > other software companies bear because of their limited access
> >to the Windows
> > > > > software; on accusations that Microsoft was suppressing innovation. The
> > > > > courts have officially labeled the gigantic software company
> >a monopoly, and
> > > > > Microsoft will be subject to careful scrutiny for abusive activity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Meaanwhile, operating systems are lapsing into senile irrelevance. An
> > > > > operating system connects the user (and the user's software)
> >to the ensemble
> > > > > of machines we call a computer. But nowadays users no longer want to be
> > > > > connected to computers. They want to be connected to
> >information, a claim
> > > > > that sounds vague but is clear and specific.
> > > > >
> > > > > Every piece of digital information you own or share will
> >appear (in the near
> > > > > future) in one universal structure. (Just ask Bill Gates: as he said
> > > > > cogently last July, "Why are my document files stored one
> >way, my contacts
> > > > > another way and my e-mail and instant-messaging buddy list
> >still another,
> > > > > and why aren't they related to my calendar or to one another,
> >and easy to
> > > > > search en masse?") A universal structure demands universal
> >access: you'll be
> > > > > able to tune in this structure from any Net-connected
> >computer anywhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have time for only one screen in my life. That screen had
> >better give me
> > > > > access to everything, everywhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is this universal information structure? A narrative stream, which
> > > > > says, "Let me tell you a story. " The system shows you a 3-D stream of
> > > > > electronic documents flowing through time. The future (where
> >you store your
> > > > > calendar, reminders, plans) flows into the present (where you
> >keep material
> > > > > you're working on right now) and on into the past (where every e-mail
> > > > > message and draft, digital photo, application, virtual
> >Rolodex card, video
> > > > > and audio clip and Web bookmark is stored, in addition to all
> >those calendar
> > > > > notes and reminders that used to be part of the future and
> >have since flowed
> > > > > into the past to be archived forever).
> > > > >
> > > > > And so the organization of your digital information reflects
> >the shape of
> > > > > your life, not the shape of a 1940's Steelcase file cabinet.
> >Storage space
> > > > > and computing power are dirt cheap; our task isn't to "use them
> > > > > efficiently," it's to "squander them creatively." Instead of searching
> > > > > through your stream for some document, you focus it (as if
> >you were focusing
> > > > > an information beam - which is like a flashlight beam cutting
> >through the
> > > > > digital fog, except that the beam is made of information
> >instead of light).
> > > > > You wind up with a selection of documents, a "substream" that
> >tells some
> > > > > particular story. Your narrative stream as a whole consists of all the
> > > > > interwoven stories that make up your life - your own personal
> >ones as well
> > > > > as the stories of all the groups and communities you belong to.
> > > > >
> > > > > This kind of information management is simpler, more powerful and more
> > > > > natural than the Steelcase-inspired software we've got today
> >- the files,
> > > > > the folders, the desktops and all those other high-tech
> >office accessories
> > > > > straight out of 1946.
> > > > >
> > > > > How do I know it will work? Because our company has built it,
> >and it does.
> > > > > (A preliminary desktop version of narrative information
> >management can be
> > > > > downloaded free at our Web site, www.scopeware.com.)
> >Microsoft has similar
> > > > > goals for its Longhorn system, but Longhorn won't be available for two
> > > > > years. We needed one-screen narrative information management
> >yesterday. Our
> > > > > software is up and running today.
> > > > >
> > > > > Windows is no tool for the future and doesn't claim to be. Technology's
> > > > > future can't possibly be based on treating computers as if they were
> > > > > hyped-up desks and file cabinets - passive pieces of ugly furniture.
> > > > > Computers are active machines, and information-management software had
> > > > > better treat them that way. But Windows can play a central
> >role in giving
> > > > > the future a leg up. It can supply a stable, ubiquitous
> >platform for the
> > > > > future to stand on.
> > > > >
> > > > > We built our system on Microsoft Windows because Windows is a reliable,
> > > > > solid, reasonably priced, nearly universal platform - and for
> >the software
> > > > > future, "universal" is nonnegotiable. We need to run the
> >system on as many
> > > > > computers as possible and manage the maximum range of
> >electronic documents.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, another operating system, Linux, is also clamoring
> >for attention.
> > > > > Linux and Windows are both children of the 70's: Linux grew
> >out of Unix,
> > > > > invented by AT&T; Windows is based on the revolutionary work of Xerox
> > > > > research. In technology years, these loyal and devoted
> >operating systems are
> > > > > each approximately 4,820 years old. (Technology years are
> >like dog years,
> > > > > only shorter.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Each is nonetheless still solid enough to be a good, steady
> >platform for the
> > > > > next step in software. But Windows is the marketplace victor
> >and has now won
> > > > > a decisive legal imprimatur. There is no technical reason for
> >us to move to
> > > > > Linux; why should we switch? Why should our customers?
> > > > >
> > > > > Some argue for Linux on economic and cultural grounds:
> >Microsoft, people
> > > > > say, has driven up prices and suppressed innovation. But this
> >is a ticklish
> > > > > argument at best: after all, over the decade of Microsoft's hegemony,
> > > > > computing power has grown cheaper and cheaper. Innovation has
> >thrived. Our
> > > > > software is innovative; it has not been suppressed. On the
> >contrary, more
> > > > > and more people get interested.
> > > > >
> > > > > Operating systems are the moldy basements of computing. We
> >used to live down
> > > > > there, but are now moving upstairs to healthier quarters. We
> >rely on the
> > > > > courts and antitrust laws to keep Microsoft from abusing its
> >enormous power.
> > > > > We need Microsoft itself to be the universal stepladder that
> >lets us climb
> > > > > out of our hole and smell the roses.
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