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| DATE | 2002-11-04 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] gpg
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:04:56 -0500
From: Ruben I Safir
To: Ray Connolly
Cc: "'Ruben I Safir'" , Ray Connolly , Billy , hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [hangout] gpg
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That's really a different thing, and it's a CLIENT email
problem.
If Balsa saw the key and just stored it, it would be good.
And used it whenever - good.
But really, what your talking about is oppurtunistic encryption.
For this to be reliable, you need some form of authentiation.
With VPN, it uses DNS to do that.
Ruben
On 2002.11.04 14:02 Ray Connolly wrote:
> yeah, u shud have ur key, ur contact theirs
> if both parties have then encrypt automatically
> other wise no
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:01 PM
> To: Ray Connolly
> Cc: 'Ruben I Safir'; Billy; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: Re: [hangout] gpg
>
>
> That's what they tried to do, and that's why it's so fucked up with the
> stupid
> key chain BS
>
> I have a Key Here, and a message Here.
>
> Encroyt this with this...
> Done
>
> On 2002.11.04 13:56 Ray Connolly wrote:
> > it needs to be transparent to the end user. If a contact has a key
> > associated to them then it should automatically sign and encrypt to their
> > key and vice versa. No key association - plain text email.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:52 PM
> > To: Ray Connolly
> > Cc: 'Ruben I Safir'; Billy; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: Re: [hangout] gpg
> >
> >
> > A good implelenetation has 4 options and is easier to use than ls
> >
> > encrypt with my key
> > encrypt this this public key
> > decrypt ditto
> > sign with my key
> > verify with this public key
> >
> > Those would be the ONLY options
> >
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> > On 2002.11.04 13:47 Ray Connolly wrote:
> > >
> > > what is a *good* implemantation? They are all confusing to use, do not
> > > integrate into email apps very easily, and make it tough for everyday
> use
> > by
> > > Mr. Private Q. Citizen
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:44 PM
> > > To: Billy
> > > Cc: Ruben I Safir; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > Subject: Re: [hangout] gpg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Moi
> > >
> > > That was a serious question...
> > >
> > > On 2002.11.04 10:18 Billy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 03:38:28AM -0500, Ruben I Safir wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK Billy
> > > > >
> > > > > Tell me why gpg is not the stupidist implenetation of encryption
> > > > > ever devised for common use.
> > > >
> > > > Troll
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