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One careless line of code can crash an entire program. Lawrence Lessig calls laws "East Coast Code," and it only takes a few buggy laws to strangle freedom and innovation in technology. Laws like the DMCA, the Hollings Bill, and the CDA threaten to put the American technology juggernaut up on blocks. AOTC has researched the sponsors of eight bad Internet laws and compiled a list of their most prolific campaign contributors. These laws were written and sponsored by a tiny handful of lawmakers, backed by a tiny handful of wealthy financiers. These bad coders and their backers have done more damage to computing, the Internet and freedom than all the virus authors, spammers and crackers combined. The Laws Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), H.R.2281 1998's Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) flooded American technology with punishing legal action, jailing scientists and destroying companies. The DMCA's "anti-circumvention" provisions have trumped the First Amendment and have given copyright holders a whip hand over every use of the material they sell to their customers. Communications Decency Act (CDA), S.314/ H.R.1004 1995's Communications Decency Act turned the Internet into a First-Amendment-Free zone. Speech that would be absolutely protected in the "real world" was criminalized if transmitted over the Internet. After a protracted court battle, a Philadelphia Federal Court zapped this buggy code, declaring the CDA un-Constitutional. Child Online Protection Act (COPA, "CDA II"), S. 1482, H.R. 3783 After the defeat of CDA, anti-freedom groups and their lawmakers launched a second salvo, COPA. COPA was a narrower attack than CDA, limiting itself to websites hosted by commercial entities, but no less un-Constitutional. The courts stopped COPA dead in its tracks, but today, the Supreme Court is deliberating over whether to unleash COPA on America. Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act (CBDTPA, "The Hollings Bill"), S.2048 This virulent Trojan Horse, written by Senator Ernest "Fritz" Hollings and friends appears to be a law that promotes technology, but it carries a deadly payload. Under this proposed law, technologists will have to come to film and movie studios on bent knee and beg for permission to ship new hardware and software. The film and music companies who worked to ban every innovative technology from the player piano to Marconi's radio to the VCR and the Internet itself would be in charge of all future innovation in America. P2P Piracy Prevention Bill ("Berman P2P bill"), H.R.5211 Representative Howard Berman's (D-Cal.) P2P Bill opens a hole in the security of the American judicial system. Under this proposal, copyright holders are free to take illegal countermeasures against any member of the public whom they believe to be engaged in copyright infringement. A law that lets a group of people break the law sounds like an oxymoron, but it's worse than that: by affording a "right of revenge" to movie and music companies, Berman's code legalizes vigilanteism, stripping law-enforcement agencies of the ability to police attacks on Internet users. CIPA, H.R. 4577 CIPA is a denial-of-service attack on schools, libraries and children. Under CIPA, schools and libraries that receive certain Federal funds are required by law to censor the Web, using filters provided by snake-oil salesmen that raise the cost of providing Internet access to kids while spuriously blocking informative sites that carry information that appears in our schools' mandatory curriculum. The Lawmakers These lawmakers in the House of Representatives and the Senate wrote more anti-technology legal code than any of their co-legislators. Rep. Charles (Chip) Pickering (R-MS 3rd district) 3 bills $230,900 DMCA, COPA, CIPA Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX 21st district) 2 bills $87,112 P2P Piracy Prevention Bill, COPA Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK ) 2 bills $375,339 CBDTPA, CIPA Rep. Bill Paxon (R-NY 27th district) 2 bills $200,938 DMCA, COPA Rep. Howard L. Berman (D-CA 26th district) 2 bills $212,991 DMCA, P2P Piracy Prevention Bill Rep. Michael G. Oxley (R-OH 4th district) 2 bills $184,998 COPA, CIPA Rep. Howard Coble (R-NC 6th district) 2 bills $114,747 DMCA, P2P Piracy Prevention Bill Sen. Ernest F. Hollings (D-SC ) 2 bills $532,980 CBDTPA, CIPA Rep. Bob Franks (R-NJ 7th district) 2 bills $661,784 COPA, CIPA Rep. Asa Hutchinson (R-AR 3rd district) 1 bill $99,350 COPA Sen. John McCain (R-AZ ) 1 bill $1,050,321 CIPA Rep. Roscoe G. Bartlett (R-MD 6th district) 1 bill $50,500 COPA Rep. Jack Metcalf (R-WA 2nd district) 1 bill $185,377 COPA Rep. Barbara Cubin (R-WY 1st district) 1 bill $115,980 COPA Rep. Dan Schaefer (R-CO 6th district) 1 bill $145,162 COPA Rep. Henry J. Hyde (R-IL 6th district) 1 bill $83,500 DMCA Rep. Paul E. Gillmor (R-OH 5th district) 1 bill $107,849 COPA Rep. Dave Weldon (R-FL 15th district) 1 bill $139,759 COPA Rep. John R. Kasich (R-OH 12th district) 1 bill $235,185 COPA Sen. Conrad R. Burns (R-MT ) 1 bill $506,126 CIPA Rep. Roy Blunt (R-MO 7th district) 1 bill $175,636 COPA Rep. Mark W. Neumann (R-WI 1st district) 1 bill $167,765 COPA Rep. John T. Doolittle (R-CA 4th district) 1 bill $78,765 COPA Rep. Vince Snowbarger (R-KS 3rd district) 1 bill $106,774 COPA Rep. James C. Greenwood (R-PA 8th district) 1 bill $98,185 COPA Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM 1st district) 1 bill $232,960 COPA Sen. J. James Exon (D-NE ) 1 bill $0 CDA Rep. Steve Largent (R-OK 1st district) 1 bill $98,852 COPA Rep. Stephen E. Buyer (R-IN 5th district) 1 bill $115,160 COPA Rep. Collin C. Peterson (D-MN 7th district) 1 bill $126,499 COPA Rep. Mary Bono (R-CA 44th district) 1 bill $76,604 DMCA Rep. Jon D. Fox (R-PA 13th district) 1 bill $200,834 COPA Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-FL 6th district) 1 bill $92,743 COPA Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA ) 1 bill $389,544 CBDTPA Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI 3rd district) 1 bill $47,719 COPA Rep. Ronnie Shows (D-MS 4th district) 1 bill $210,650 CIPA Rep. Robert B. Aderholt (R-AL 4th district) 1 bill $266,944 COPA Rep. John M. McHugh (R-NY 24th district) 1 bill $92,380 COPA Rep. Jon Christensen (R-NE 2nd district) 1 bill $230,552 COPA Rep. Max Sandlin (D-TX 1st district) 1 bill $215,450 COPA Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA 4th district) 1 bill $55,500 DMCA Rep. Greg Ganske (R-IA 4th district) 1 bill $177,885 COPA Rep. J. C. Jr. Watts (R-OK 4th district) 1 bill $135,705 COPA Rep. Nancy L. Johnson (R-CT 6th district) 1 bill $279,554 COPA Sen. Christopher S. Bond (R-MO ) 1 bill $477,360 CIPA Rep. Michael Bilirakis (R-FL 9th district) 1 bill $92,011 COPA Rep. Jr. Nethercutt, George R. (R-WA 5th district) 1 bill $142,127 COPA Rep. Nathan Deal (R-GA 9th district) 1 bill $106,339 COPA Rep. Linda Smith (R-WA 3rd district) 1 bill $52,494 COPA Rep. Bart Gordon (D-TN 6th district) 1 bill $248,500 COPA Rep. Ed Whitfield (R-KY 1st district) 1 bill $169,715 COPA Rep. Tim Johnson (R-IL 15th district) 1 bill $383,959 CDA Rep. Jay Kim (R-CA 41st district) 1 bill $116,574 COPA Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX ) 1 bill $422,932 CIPA Rep. Dan Burton (R-IN 6th district) 1 bill $145,282 COPA Rep. Michael Pappas (R-NJ 12th district) 1 bill $80,749 COPA Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL 16th district) 1 bill $106,699 COPA Rep. Mark E. Souder (R-IL 4th district) 1 bill $75,534 COPA Sen. John B. Breaux (D-LA ) 1 bill $343,769 CBDTPA Rep. David L. Hobson (R-OH 7th district) 1 bill $104,922 COPA Rep. Bobby L. Rush (D-IL 1st district) 1 bill $177,481 CIPA Rep. Thomas J. Manton (D-NY 7th district) 1 bill $118,494 COPA Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA 43th district) 1 bill $127,625 COPA Rep. Joseph R. Pitts (R-PA 16th district) 1 bill $103,800 COPA Rep. John Jr. Conyers (D-MI 14th district) 1 bill $99,110 DMCA Rep. Elizabeth Furse (D-OR 1st district) 1 bill $248,322 COPA Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI 6th district) 1 bill $121,673 COPA Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL ) 1 bill $442,151 CBDTPA Rep. Jr. Istook, Ernest J. (R-OK 5th district) 1 bill $93,284 COPA Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-MI ) 1 bill $732,850 CIPA Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX 6th district) 1 bill $162,944 COPA Rep. Sue Myrick (R-NC 9th district) 1 bill $147,741 COPA Rep. Pat Danner (D-MO 6th district) 1 bill $112,950 COPA Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX 5th district) 1 bill $207,111 COPA Rep. Bill McCollum (R-FL 8th district) 1 bill $326,487 DMCA Rep. Benjamin A. Gilman (R-NY 20th district) 1 bill $149,306 COPA Rep. Jerry Weller (R-IL 11th district) 1 bill $200,075 COPA Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL 19th district) 1 bill $107,500 P2P Piracy Prevention Bill Rep. Sue W. Kelly (R-NY 19th district) 1 bill $168,550 COPA Sen. Jesse Helms (R-NC ) 1 bill $386,450 CIPA Rep. Richard Burr (R-NC 5th district) 1 bill $118,275 COPA Rep. Charlie Norwood (R-GA 10th district) 1 bill $185,621 COPA Rep. Phil English (R-PA 21st district) 1 bill $163,562 COPA Rep. Gerald B. H. Solomon (R-NY 22nd district) 1 bill $164,098 COPA Rep. Ralph M. Hall (D-OH 3rd district) 1 bill $94,000 COPA Rep. Gary Miller (R-CA 41st district) 1 bill $148,450 CIPA Sen. Slade Gorton (R-WA ) 1 bill $376,525 CDA Rep. Rick Lazio (R-NY 2nd district) 1 bill $214,076 COPA Rep. Sonny Callahan (R-AL 1th district) 1 bill $109,835 COPA Rep. John E. Peterson (R-PA 5th district) 1 bill $60,556 COPA Rep. Sonny Bono (R-CA 44th district) 1 bill $0 DMCA Rep. Charles H. Taylor (R-NC 11th district) 1 bill $90,864 COPA Sen. Daniel K. Inouye (D-HI ) 1 bill $247,429 CBDTPA -- Statistics on campaign contributions courtesty of opensecrets.org. Thanks to volunteer Benjamin Owens for compiling the data here. 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Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] November Member Memo 2002-11-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Demo Tape and review 2002-11-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mechanized Army 2002-11-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mechanized Army 2002-11-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Mechanized Army 2002-11-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fundraise Online: November 14 Workshop in NYC 2002-11-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Using Linux with Accounting Packages 2002-11-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Prior restraint of Digital Use 2002-11-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Prior restraint of Digital Use 2002-11-07 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] next en OS 2002-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Prior Restration and Digital Media 2002-11-07 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] next gen OS 2002-11-07 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] next gen OS 2002-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [rich.goodwin-at-cox.net: [novalug] LinkSys vulnerability!] 2002-11-07 Jean-Michel Smith <jsmith-at-kcco.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [DMCA-Activists] MSNBC / AP on "Trusted Computing" 2002-11-07 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] next gen OS 2002-11-07 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] next gen OS 2002-11-07 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] next gen OS 2002-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco call me 2002-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] [Fwd: FC: Consumer Alert on digital technology, consumers, copyright] 2002-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] [Fwd: FC: Consumer Alert on digital technology, consumers, copyright] 2002-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA-Activists] MSNBC / AP on "Trusted Computing" 2002-11-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Confirmation - LinuxWorld NY'03 Conference & Expo 2002-11-06 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Confirmation - LinuxWorld NY'03 Conference & Expo 2002-11-06 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] laptops 2002-11-06 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Fundraise Online: November 14 Workshop in NYC 2002-11-06 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Fundraise Online: November 14 Workshop in NYC 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] more TCO ammo for OSS 2002-11-06 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] more TCO ammo for OSS 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest 2002-11-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Installfest 2002-11-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Installfest 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest 2002-11-06 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Halloween 7 2002-11-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Installfest 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hmmmm ... Maybe someone can explain this to me... 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Results 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Impending disaster for drm fight? 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Stake Holder Buttons 2002-11-06 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU/Linux and Small Businesses 2002-11-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Linux (I've seen it all now) 2002-11-06 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Stake Holder Buttons 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Other things 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Stake Holder Buttons 2002-11-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] InstallFest Credits 2002-11-05 From: "gil rosado" <gr.music-at-verizon.net> Re: Fw: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] shell parser for /etc/passwdanyone? 2002-11-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] directions needed 2002-11-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 2002-11-05 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] 2002-11-05 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Anti Freedom Laws and Their Pimps 2002-11-05 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-05 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-05 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-05 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-05 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.0 disks for installfest 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Gnomecal and Addressbook 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Ruling and Free Software:E Moglin 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Gnome Board 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [hangout] gpg] 2002-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Interesting Developments 2002-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Interesting Developments 2002-11-04 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Interesting Developments 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Interesting Developments 2002-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy 2002-11-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy 2002-11-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy 2002-11-04 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Gnu/Linux maintainers protecting MPAA, Jack Valent & co 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Gnu/Linux maintainers protecting MPAA, Jack Valent & co 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy 2002-11-04 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy 2002-11-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] C class by Billy 2002-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [constant-at-indo.net.id: too stupid for Linux?] 2002-11-04 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Nvideo Cards 2002-11-04 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] class rings 2002-11-04 spam-killer-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] [jgleason-at-nylug.org: [nylug-announce] THE LINUX SOCIETY | November 2002 (fwd)] 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting - Next Monday 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI: New Class Schedules Up for December 2002-11-04 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Publicity for installfest 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair use Meeting 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair use Meeting 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Gnu/Linux maintainers protecting MPAA, Jack Valent & co. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Gnu/Linux maintainers protecting MPAA, Jack Valent & co. 2002-11-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Jewery 2002-11-04 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Gnu/Linux maintainers protecting MPAA, Jack Valent & co. 2002-11-04 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] video for installfest 2002-11-04 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Jewery 2002-11-04 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fw: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] shell parser for /etc/passwd anyone? 2002-11-03 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Press 2002-11-03 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Nvideo Cards 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Press 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nvideo Cards 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Nvideo Cards 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jewery 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Why Jews Like Linux Thread 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] INSTALLFEST NYC 2002-11-03 From: "gil rosado" <gr.music-at-verizon.net> Fw: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] shell parser for /etc/passwd anyone? 2002-11-03 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] DMCA HORROR SHOW 2002-11-03 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.0 disks for installfest 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] gpg 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.0 disks for installfest 2002-11-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.0 disks for installfest 2002-11-02 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.0 disks for installfest 2002-11-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] C class by Billy 2002-11-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] EDIT THE JOURNAL 2002-11-02 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Letter to the Site Editors, Letter to the Magazine Editors 2002-11-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Re: Class Schedule 2002-11-01 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dd correct for copying an iso image to hard disk? 2002-11-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Membership Night Out? It could work... 2002-11-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] error message under SUSE 2002-11-01 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] observations 2002-11-01 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Wireless Keyboards and mouse 2002-11-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] IBM and Linux - For Future Reference 2002-11-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Membership Night Out? It could work... 2002-11-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM and Linux - For Future Reference 2002-11-01 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] error message under SUSE-Update 2002-11-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: promotion 2002-11-20 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] Business Networking: Bronx 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] Business Networking: Bronx 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] databases 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jaboutboul-at-speakeasy.net: Re: [nylug-talk] Fwd: LinuxWorld NY 2003 Jan] 2002-11-20 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Celebrate the arts with me 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OSS and K-12 Education Analysis 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] This Morning's Follow up 2002-11-20 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] OSS and K-12 Education Analysis 2002-11-20 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] More from the DMCA 2002-11-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: promotion 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] WRDII: promotion 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning 2002-11-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: promotion 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] WRDII: promotion 2002-11-20 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux 1 class 2002-11-20 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: Union-Tribune 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning 2002-11-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning 2002-11-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] WRDII: board meeing 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Networking: Bronx 2002-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning 2002-11-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Windows Refund Day II 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Fw: Windows Refund Day II 2002-11-20 akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] Re: Windows Refund Day II 2002-11-20 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: Windows Refund Day II 2002-11-23 Kiryl Hakhovich <administrator-at-bsolution.net> Re[2]: [hangout] OSS and K-12 Education Analysis 2002-11-26 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: Reply RE: [hangout] FSI- Stepping Up the Growth 2002-11-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] Business Networking: Bronx NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! 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