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| DATE | 2003-11-04 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Red Hat tells customers, 'No more freebies!"
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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:30:27 -0500
From: Ruben I Safir
To: Ruben I Safir
Cc: EInker-at-gam.com, hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [hangout] Red Hat tells customers, 'No more freebies!"
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From: Patrick J. Volkerding (bf703-at-cleveland.Freenet.Edu)
Subject: ANNOUNCE: Slackware Linux 1.00
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Date: 1993-07-16 17:21:20 PST
The Slackware Linux distribution (v. 1.00) is now available for
anonymous FTP. This is a complete installation system designed for
systems with a 3.5" boot floppy. It has been tested extensively with
a 386/IDE system. The standard kernel included does not support SCSI,
but if there's a great demand, I might be persuaded to compile a few
custom kernels to put up for FTP.
This release is based largely on the SLS system, but has been enhanced and
modified substantially. There are two main disk series, A (13 disks) and
X (11 disks). Some of the features:
Series A:
About what you'd expect from SLS series A, B, and C. Plus:
Source for the Linux DOS emulator version 0.49.
The FAQ for kernel level 99pl10.
Kernel source and image at .99pl11 Alpha.
[compiled with these options: math emulation support, normal hard drive
support, TCP/IP, System V IPC, -m486, minix fs, ext2 fs, msdos fs, nfs,
proc support, and PS/2 style mouse support. You may need to recompile if
you have some other type of busmouse. The kernel was compiled with libc
4.4.1, g++ 2.4.5]
The new keytable utilities.
The NET-2 networking package, preconfigured to use loopback.
A public domain version of ksh, and tcsh 6.04 (with the bugs worked out)
GNU gcc, g++, and Objective-C at versions 2.4.5
Includes and libraries at version 4.4.1
mailx, quota utilities, experimental winapi source, sound drivers.
The TCL toolkit and samples.
In addition, the installation program has been improved to offer more
information about the packages (and the installation procedure itself)
as you install.
The install program can also automatically install LILO, configuring it
to boot either from your master boot record or from OS/2's Boot Manager.
Series X:
Also, all the packages you would get in the SLS X series, plus:
XFree-86 version 1.3.
Open Look Virtual Window Manager made the default window manager.
XS3 server offers support for S3 based video cards.
XV 3.00 Image viewer is included.
PEX files from the XFree-86 distribution are included.
Although TEX support is not included in the Slackware release, the you may
install the SLS T series from the install program.
At this point, the install disk itself is running .99pl8. I'm working on it :^)
Also, installation from other than a 3.5" floppy has not been tested, but might
work. 5.25" floppy will not work because of file sizes. At this point, I have
no plans to support a 5.25" version.
How to get the Slackware(tm) release:
The Slackware release may be obtained be anonymous FTP from
mhd3.moorhead.msus.edu in directory /pub/linux/slackware. At least initially,
this release will be in the form of 3.5" disk images which should be copied
to floppies using the RAWRITE.EXE program, or dd under Linux.
Please note that our FTP software does not support limiting the number of
concurrent anonymous logins. PLEASE try to go easy on this machine. If things
get out of hand, access may be restricted.
Other sites are, of course, welcome to help out with the load by mirroring
the distribution.
If you find any problems with the distribution, or if you have any suggestions
for improvements, please let me know. If you know of more up-to-date versions
of software in the distribution, I'd like to hear about that, too.
--
Patrick Volkerding
volkerdi-at-mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu
bf703-at-cleveland.freenet.edu
On 2003.11.04 00:22 Ruben I Safir wrote:
>
> As I discussed with Evan on the phone, this is a very bad decision
> by red Hat for their own health. They are underestimating the importance
> of the market share and marketing value that they get from Red Hat box sets
> and distribution.
>
> I would venture to say that today there would not BE a Red Hat corperation
> if it was not for the marketing value that they recieved from their RH linux
> distributions. I view this as a reactionary move by the company in light of
> bad recession that the nation has undergone since the attack on New York on
> September 11th, 2003. But I see a real uptick in the IT market place, and if
> anything, even if this decision makes sense, it is 6 months too late.
>
> Where does Red Hat think it is going to get the kind of publicity and free press
> that they got in the market place which was generated by their distribution? With
> radio and TV advertising?
>
> Have they followed what is happening at SUN?
>
> Ruben
>
> On 2003.11.03 13:35 "Inker, Evan" wrote:
> >
> > Title Red Hat tells customers, 'No more freebies!"
> > Date 2003.11.03 11:51
> > Author roblimo
> > Topic Linux
> > http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/11/03/1657205
> >
> > In an email to Red Hat Network customers, the company has announced today
> > that it "...will discontinue maintenance and errata support for Red Hat
> > Linux 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0 as of December 31, 2003," that "Red Hat will
> > discontinue maintenance and errata support for Red Hat Linux 9 as of April
> > 30, 2004," and that "Red Hat does not plan to release another product in the
> > Red Hat Linux line." This should not come as a surprise to NewsForge
> > regulars who saw this story on October 23, but less-prepared Red Hat users
> > seem shocked by the idea.
> >
> > Text of the email:
> >
> > Thank you for being a Red Hat Network customer.
> >
> > This e-mail provides you with important information about the upcoming
> > discontinuation of Red Hat Linux, and resources to assist you with your
> > migration to another Red Hat solution.
> >
> > As previously communicated, Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and
> > errata support for Red Hat Linux 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0 as of December
> > 31, 2003. Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and errata support for
> > Red Hat Linux 9 as of April 30, 2004. Red Hat does not plan to release
> > another product in the Red Hat Linux line.
> >
> > With the recent announcement of Red Hat Enterprise Linux v.3, you'll
> > find migrating to Enterprise Linux appealing. We understand
> > that transitioning to another Red Hat solution requires careful planning
> > and implementation. We have created a migration plan for Red Hat Network
> > customers to help make the transition as simple and seamless as
> > possible. Details:
> >
> > ****************
> > If you purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic before February
> > 28, 2004, you will receive 50% off the price for two years.[*] (That's two
> > years for the price of one.)
> >
> > ****************
> > In addition, we have created a Red Hat Linux Migration Resource Center
> > to address your migration planning and other questions, such as:
> >
> > * What are best practices for implementing the migration to Red Hat
> > Enterprise Linux?
> >
> > * Are there other migration alternatives?
> >
> > * How do I purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic at the price
> > above?
> >
> > * What if my paid subscription to RHN extends past April 30, 2004?
> >
> > ****************
> >
> > Find out more about your migration options with product comparisons,
> > whitepapers and documentation at the Red Hat Linux Migration Resource
> > Center:
> >
> > http://www.redhat.com/solutions/migration/rhl/rhn
> >
> > Or read the FAQ written especially for Red Hat Network customers:
> >
> > https://rhn.redhat.com/help/rhlmigrationfaq/
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Red Hat, Inc.
> >
> > [*] Limit 10 units. Higher volume purchase inquiries should contact a
> > regional Red Hat sales representative. Contact numbers available at
> > http://www.redhat.com/solutions/migration/rhl/rhn
> >
> > --the Red Hat Network Team
> >
> > The Bottom Line:
> >
> > If you want to use an enterprise-level Linux distribution with the Red Hat
> > name on it, you are going to spend significant money. If you want to keep
> > using a Red Hat-style distribution for free, you'll use Fedora. And if
> > neither of these options appeal to you, there are plenty of other Linux
> > distributions out there for you to choose from.
> >
> > Links
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> >
> >
> > "this story on October 23" -
> > http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/23/1156204&tid=17
> > "Fedora" - http://fedora.redhat.com/
> > "plenty of other Linux distributions" - http://old.lwn.net/Distributions/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Errata: Security Alerts, Bugfixes, and Enhancements
> > Red Hat releases Errata Alerts in three categories: Security Alerts, Bug Fix
> > Alerts, and Enhancement Alerts. Each Errata Alert is comprised of a summary
> > of the problem and the solution, including the RPM package(s) required to
> > fix the problem.
> >
> > The Red Hat Security Resource Center contains more information including
> > details on how to contact us about security issues.
> >
> >
> > Errata Support Period
> >
> > Red Hat Enterprise Linux -- Red Hat has established fixed life cycles for
> > Red Hat Enterprise Linux which will allow customers and partners to plan
> > their resources, certifications and implementations accordingly.
> >
> > To facilitate customer maintenance cycles, Red Hat Enterprise Linux will be
> > supported via errata updates. These Updates will contain security, bug fix
> > and enhancement errata that has been qualified on the appropriate Red Hat
> > Enterprise Linux release and architecture. The scope of enhancement errata
> > is constrained to additional hardware support. Security errata will be the
> > only errata released independent of the Updates.
> > More details...
> >
> > Red Hat Linux -- Red Hat's policy for Red Hat Linux distributions is to
> > provide maintenance for at least 12 months. At certain times, Red Hat may
> > extend errata maintenance for certain popular releases of the operating
> > system. End of Life dates for errata maintenance for currently supported
> > products are listed below:
> >
> >
> > Red Hat Linux 9 (Shrike) April 30, 2004
> > Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) December 31, 2003
> > Red Hat Linux 7.3 (Valhalla) December 31, 2003
> > Red Hat Linux 7.2 (Enigma) December 31, 2003
> > Red Hat Linux 7.1 (Seawolf) December 31, 2003
> >
> >
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