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DATE 2006-06-22
FROM einker
SUBJECT Fwd: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell News
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: einker
Date: Jun 22, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell News
To: Ruben Safir
Cc: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com

No, the question should be "Is this a good thing or a bad thing?". Novell
has consistently screwed up all their marketing and sales efforts since
Netware 4.0.
Netware is going the way of the DoDo and nothing will change that. What will
happen with Suse is the key question now.


On 6/22/06, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> Why is everything that comes out of Novel seems to be such
> a mystery.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Novell's board of directors has voted to oust Jack Messman as CEO,
> effective immediately.
>
> The firm announced the move today in a bid to put a rocket
> up the firm's growth strategy, which has suffered since
> it made the switch to open source. Messman said in March
> ( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/10/novell_management_shuffle/) it
> would take him two years to turn Novell around following disappointing
> financials.
>
> Messman, 66, is being replaced with erstwhile president and COO,
> 45-year-old Ron Hovespian. Director Thomas Plaskett, who becomes
> non-executive chairman in the chop-change said: "The board concluded that
> a management change would be the best way to accelerate the execution
> of our growth strategy and build value for shareholders."
>
> "[Hovespian] has played an integral role in developing the company's
> operating strategy and fully understands Novell's compelling growth
> opportunities," he added.
>
> Hovespian's appointment marks the summit of a fairly meteoric rise at
> Novell. He only joined the firm in 2003 following 17 years at IBM. He
> said: "We will maintain a sharp focus in meeting customer demand and
> delivering value through Linux-based, enterprise-wide solutions and
> identity and resource management products."
>
> Also for the chop is CFO Joseph Tibbetts, who'll be replaced by current
> finance VP Dana Russell in an interim capacity.
>
> As well as losing their executive powers, Messman and Tibbetts will
> leave the board entirely within months. The pair made no comment today.
>
> The latest musical chairs at Novell has so far been greeted warmly by
> investors, with Novell stock trading up 7 per cent on Wall Street at
> time of writing. That said, it's a long way back for Novell. Since the
> March financial gloom, the firm's stock has tumbled from near $10 per
> share to around $6.(r) Related stories
>
> Linux kernel goes Niagara (21 June 2006)
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/06/21/linux_kernel_goes_niagara/
> SUSE CTO exits Novell (29 March 2006)
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/29/suse_cto_exits_novell/
> Novell puts Netware on life support until 2015 (21 March 2006)
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/21/novell_brainshare/
> Red Hat enters state of Xen (14 March 2006)
>
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/14/red_hat_xen_novell_virtualization/
> Novell rearranges the brass after Q1 bomb (10 March 2006)
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/10/novell_management_shuffle/
>
> (c) Copyright 2006
> --
> __________________________
> Brooklyn Linux Solutions
>
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> http://fairuse.nylxs.com
>
> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>
> "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming
> sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need
> the ability to participate in our own society."
>
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
> articles from around the net
>
>


--
Regards,

Evan M. Inker


--
Regards,

Evan M. Inker

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: einker <eminker-at-gmail.com>
Date: Jun 22, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell News

To: Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com>
Cc: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com

No, the question should be "Is this a good thing or a bad thing?". Novell has consistently screwed up all their marketing and sales efforts since Netware
4.0.
Netware is going the way of the DoDo and nothing will change that. What will happen with Suse is the key question now.


On 6/22/06, Ruben Safir <
ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com
> wrote:

Why is everything that comes out of Novel seems to be such
a mystery.

---------------------------------------------------------

Novell's board of directors has voted to oust Jack Messman as CEO,
effective immediately.


The firm announced the move today in a bid to put a rocket
up the firm's growth strategy, which has suffered since
it made the switch to open source. Messman said in March
(

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/10/novell_management_shuffle/
) it
would take him two years to turn Novell around following disappointing
financials.

Messman, 66, is being replaced with erstwhile president and COO,

45-year-old Ron Hovespian. Director Thomas Plaskett, who becomes
non-executive chairman in the chop-change said: "The board concluded that
a management change would be the best way to accelerate the execution

of our growth strategy and build value for shareholders."

"[Hovespian] has played an integral role in developing the company's
operating strategy and fully understands Novell's compelling growth


opportunities," he added.

Hovespian's appointment marks the summit of a fairly meteoric rise at
Novell. He only joined the firm in 2003 following 17 years at IBM. He
said: "We will maintain a sharp focus in meeting customer demand and

delivering value through Linux-based, enterprise-wide solutions and
identity and resource management products."

Also for the chop is CFO Joseph Tibbetts, who'll be replaced by current
finance VP Dana Russell in an interim capacity.


As well as losing their executive powers, Messman and Tibbetts will
leave the board entirely within months. The pair made no comment today.

The latest musical chairs at Novell has so far been greeted warmly by

investors, with Novell stock trading up 7 per cent on Wall Street at
time of writing. That said, it's a long way back for Novell. Since the
March financial gloom, the firm's stock has tumbled from near $10 per


share to around $6.® Related stories

Linux kernel goes Niagara (21 June 2006)

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/06/21/linux_kernel_goes_niagara/

SUSE CTO exits Novell (29 March 2006)
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/29/suse_cto_exits_novell/

Novell puts Netware on life support until 2015 (21 March 2006)

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/21/novell_brainshare/
Red Hat enters state of Xen (14 March 2006)


http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/14/red_hat_xen_novell_virtualization/

Novell rearranges the brass after Q1 bomb (10 March 2006)


http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/10/novell_management_shuffle/


© Copyright 2006
--
__________________________
Brooklyn Linux Solutions

So many immigrant groups have swept through our town

that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world  - RI Safir 1998

DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002

http://fairuse.nylxs.com


"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"

"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming
sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need
the ability to participate in our own society."


http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting

http://www.nylxs.com
- Leadership Development in Free Software

http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources
- Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net




--
Regards,

Evan M. Inker



--
Regards,

Evan M. Inker

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: einker
Date: Jun 22, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell News
To: Ruben Safir
Cc: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com

No, the question should be "Is this a good thing or a bad thing?". Novell
has consistently screwed up all their marketing and sales efforts since
Netware 4.0.
Netware is going the way of the DoDo and nothing will change that. What will
happen with Suse is the key question now.


On 6/22/06, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> Why is everything that comes out of Novel seems to be such
> a mystery.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Novell's board of directors has voted to oust Jack Messman as CEO,
> effective immediately.
>
> The firm announced the move today in a bid to put a rocket
> up the firm's growth strategy, which has suffered since
> it made the switch to open source. Messman said in March
> ( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/10/novell_management_shuffle/) it
> would take him two years to turn Novell around following disappointing
> financials.
>
> Messman, 66, is being replaced with erstwhile president and COO,
> 45-year-old Ron Hovespian. Director Thomas Plaskett, who becomes
> non-executive chairman in the chop-change said: "The board concluded that
> a management change would be the best way to accelerate the execution
> of our growth strategy and build value for shareholders."
>
> "[Hovespian] has played an integral role in developing the company's
> operating strategy and fully understands Novell's compelling growth
> opportunities," he added.
>
> Hovespian's appointment marks the summit of a fairly meteoric rise at
> Novell. He only joined the firm in 2003 following 17 years at IBM. He
> said: "We will maintain a sharp focus in meeting customer demand and
> delivering value through Linux-based, enterprise-wide solutions and
> identity and resource management products."
>
> Also for the chop is CFO Joseph Tibbetts, who'll be replaced by current
> finance VP Dana Russell in an interim capacity.
>
> As well as losing their executive powers, Messman and Tibbetts will
> leave the board entirely within months. The pair made no comment today.
>
> The latest musical chairs at Novell has so far been greeted warmly by
> investors, with Novell stock trading up 7 per cent on Wall Street at
> time of writing. That said, it's a long way back for Novell. Since the
> March financial gloom, the firm's stock has tumbled from near $10 per
> share to around $6.(r) Related stories
>
> Linux kernel goes Niagara (21 June 2006)
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/06/21/linux_kernel_goes_niagara/
> SUSE CTO exits Novell (29 March 2006)
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/29/suse_cto_exits_novell/
> Novell puts Netware on life support until 2015 (21 March 2006)
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/21/novell_brainshare/
> Red Hat enters state of Xen (14 March 2006)
>
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/14/red_hat_xen_novell_virtualization/
> Novell rearranges the brass after Q1 bomb (10 March 2006)
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/10/novell_management_shuffle/
>
> (c) Copyright 2006
> --
> __________________________
> Brooklyn Linux Solutions
>
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> http://fairuse.nylxs.com
>
> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>
> "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming
> sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need
> the ability to participate in our own society."
>
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
> articles from around the net
>
>


--
Regards,

Evan M. Inker


--
Regards,

Evan M. Inker

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: einker <eminker-at-gmail.com>
Date: Jun 22, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell News

To: Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com>
Cc: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com

No, the question should be "Is this a good thing or a bad thing?". Novell has consistently screwed up all their marketing and sales efforts since Netware
4.0.
Netware is going the way of the DoDo and nothing will change that. What will happen with Suse is the key question now.


On 6/22/06, Ruben Safir <
ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com
> wrote:

Why is everything that comes out of Novel seems to be such
a mystery.

---------------------------------------------------------

Novell's board of directors has voted to oust Jack Messman as CEO,
effective immediately.


The firm announced the move today in a bid to put a rocket
up the firm's growth strategy, which has suffered since
it made the switch to open source. Messman said in March
(

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/10/novell_management_shuffle/
) it
would take him two years to turn Novell around following disappointing
financials.

Messman, 66, is being replaced with erstwhile president and COO,

45-year-old Ron Hovespian. Director Thomas Plaskett, who becomes
non-executive chairman in the chop-change said: "The board concluded that
a management change would be the best way to accelerate the execution

of our growth strategy and build value for shareholders."

"[Hovespian] has played an integral role in developing the company's
operating strategy and fully understands Novell's compelling growth


opportunities," he added.

Hovespian's appointment marks the summit of a fairly meteoric rise at
Novell. He only joined the firm in 2003 following 17 years at IBM. He
said: "We will maintain a sharp focus in meeting customer demand and

delivering value through Linux-based, enterprise-wide solutions and
identity and resource management products."

Also for the chop is CFO Joseph Tibbetts, who'll be replaced by current
finance VP Dana Russell in an interim capacity.


As well as losing their executive powers, Messman and Tibbetts will
leave the board entirely within months. The pair made no comment today.

The latest musical chairs at Novell has so far been greeted warmly by

investors, with Novell stock trading up 7 per cent on Wall Street at
time of writing. That said, it's a long way back for Novell. Since the
March financial gloom, the firm's stock has tumbled from near $10 per


share to around $6.® Related stories

Linux kernel goes Niagara (21 June 2006)

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/06/21/linux_kernel_goes_niagara/

SUSE CTO exits Novell (29 March 2006)
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/29/suse_cto_exits_novell/

Novell puts Netware on life support until 2015 (21 March 2006)

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/21/novell_brainshare/
Red Hat enters state of Xen (14 March 2006)


http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/14/red_hat_xen_novell_virtualization/

Novell rearranges the brass after Q1 bomb (10 March 2006)


http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/10/novell_management_shuffle/


© Copyright 2006
--
__________________________
Brooklyn Linux Solutions

So many immigrant groups have swept through our town

that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world  - RI Safir 1998

DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002

http://fairuse.nylxs.com


"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"

"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming
sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need
the ability to participate in our own society."


http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting

http://www.nylxs.com
- Leadership Development in Free Software

http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources
- Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net




--
Regards,

Evan M. Inker



--
Regards,

Evan M. Inker

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  4. 2006-06-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [nylug-talk] I am starting a new outreach for free software effort.]
  5. 2006-06-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRm is Theft and the FSF
  6. 2006-06-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next General Meeting
  7. 2006-06-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] PDF Poison
  8. 2006-06-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM Laptops
  9. 2006-06-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM is Theft II
  10. 2006-06-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM in every Laptop
  11. 2006-06-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next General Meeting
  12. 2006-06-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Distro ISO
  13. 2006-06-03 MLR <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Join me in standing up for New York's national monuments!
  14. 2006-06-03 myc <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next General Meeting
  15. 2006-06-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next General Meeting
  16. 2006-06-03 MLR <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next General Meeting
  17. 2006-06-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next General Meeting
  18. 2006-06-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS General Membership Meeting
  19. 2006-06-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: E-Update for the Committee on Technology in Government of New York City Council (June 4, 2006).]
  20. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM is Theft: IPODS
  21. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM is Theft: Disabling Information
  22. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM is Theft: Blue Ray
  23. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM is Theft: BBC
  24. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mail Archives
  25. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRm is Theft and the FSF
  26. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] CRAP
  27. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] WTC Rebuilding
  28. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [joshua.mcadams-at-gmail.com: YAPC::NA]
  29. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] teaching volunteer opportunities
  30. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [nylug-volunteers] Re: [nylug-talk] teaching volunteer opportunities]
  31. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Programming Jobs
  32. 2006-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-volunteers] Re: [nylug-talk] teaching volunteer opportunities
  33. 2006-06-05 MLR <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Palm 700P - You're Invited!]
  34. 2006-06-06 rc <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Pizza Beer & AJAX in NYC Tuesday
  35. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS General Membership Meeting
  36. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?
  37. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [dha-at-panix.com: Re: Damian Conway in New York]
  38. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [joshua.mcadams-at-gmail.com: YAPC::NA]
  39. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Social Meeting
  40. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Pizza Beer & AJAX in NYC Tuesday
  41. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] teaching volunteer opportunities
  42. 2006-06-06 WWWhatsup <joly-at-dti.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 24 Hours to Save Internet Fair Use
  43. 2006-06-06 rc <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Pizza Beer & AJAX in NYC Tuesday
  44. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 24 Hours to Save Internet Fair Use
  45. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 24 Hours to Save Internet Fair Use
  46. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?
  47. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: New York Times Editorial Supports for Universal Wi-Fi to Conquer Digital Divide in NYC.]
  48. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Pizza Beer & AJAX in NYC Tuesday
  49. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 24 Hours to Save Internet Fair Use
  50. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] And GTK+
  51. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GLIB announcement
  52. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [tpeters-at-mixcom.com: [MLUG] Linux demotivational posters]
  53. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?
  54. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?
  55. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [spacey-nylug-at-lenin.net: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?]
  56. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?]
  57. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [phantom21-at-mindspring.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?]
  58. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [dcrosta-at-sccs.swarthmore.edu: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?]
  59. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?]]
  60. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [dcrosta-at-sccs.swarthmore.edu: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?]
  61. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?
  62. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?
  63. 2006-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?
  64. 2006-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?
  65. 2006-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [sunny-at-opencurve.org: [nylug-talk] Fwd: New York State Senate Democrats in need of 2 technologists]
  66. 2006-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [rguerin-at-nylug.org: [nylug-talk] [nylug-job] Branta Group Seeks contract System Admin/Data Center Operations Engineer]
  67. 2006-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tonights Meeting - Hurray - Great Night
  68. 2006-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [ISOC-NY Discussion] PBS NOW - 'The Tangled Web'
  69. 2006-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Applw DRM Protest Saturday 6/10/06]
  70. 2006-06-08 myc <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Fwd: FW: 2005 Stella Awards
  71. 2006-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] a
  72. 2006-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: No Subject]
  73. 2006-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?
  74. 2006-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] "Wingfest" Vegetarian Style this Friday -at- 7:30pm
  75. 2006-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: rpm hell
  76. 2006-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal Commitments
  77. 2006-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: rpm hell
  78. 2006-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bad News
  79. 2006-06-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Voice and the Web
  80. 2006-06-09 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal
  81. 2006-06-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [carenas2-at-alumni.gs.columbia.edu: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?]
  82. 2006-06-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [dcrosta-at-sccs.swarthmore.edu: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?]
  83. 2006-06-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal
  84. 2006-06-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.net> Re: [carenas2-at-alumni.gs.columbia.edu: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?]
  85. 2006-06-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [carenas2-at-alumni.gs.columbia.edu: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] PIG in new york?]
  86. 2006-06-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Monday 12 June 2006 GNUbies: Antonio Perpinan of Codigo Libre on doing what you want to do with Free Software
  87. 2006-06-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gnumbies Meeting
  88. 2006-06-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [rguerin-at-nylug.org: [nylug-talk] [nylug-job] Local Mid-Sized Company seeks SAMBA - LDAP Integration Consultant]
  89. 2006-06-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair Use Article from Noel that we never published
  90. 2006-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [CFSG-forum] Fwd: AAFE and CFSG youth technology show case]
  91. 2006-06-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Potential space for Python Work Study Group
  92. 2006-06-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [selsok-at-yahoo.com: [CFSG-forum] Rev. with time AAFE and CFSG youth technology show case]
  93. 2006-06-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Web Server
  94. 2006-06-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Telephony
  95. 2006-06-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal
  96. 2006-06-12 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal
  97. 2006-06-12 WWWhatsup <joly-at-dti.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: UK Report on "Digital Rights Management"
  98. 2006-06-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Telephony
  99. 2006-06-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: UK Report on "Digital Rights Management"
  100. 2006-06-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [CandidateEmail-at-site.careerbuilder.com: CareerBuilder.com: Sr. Unix Developer]
  101. 2006-06-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux 1 publishing
  102. 2006-06-13 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gnubies Meeting
  103. 2006-06-13 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] textbook
  104. 2006-06-13 MLR <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: Book]
  105. 2006-06-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Problems with GRUB
  106. 2006-06-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] textbook
  107. 2006-06-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gnubies Meeting
  108. 2006-06-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: Book]
  109. 2006-06-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gnubies Meeting
  110. 2006-06-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [rguerin-at-nylug.org: [nylug-talk] [nylug-job] Acadaca Internet Solutions seeks PHP Developer]
  111. 2006-06-13 ronny abraham <ronny.coder-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] bronx
  112. 2006-06-13 ronny abraham <ronny.coder-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] assembly workshop
  113. 2006-06-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New NYLXS Website
  114. 2006-06-14 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] please repost Selso's thing tonight
  115. 2006-06-14 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] selsok-at-yahoo.com: [CFSG-forum] Rev. with time AAFE and CFSG youth technology show case]
  116. 2006-06-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Linux Sys Admin]
  117. 2006-06-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-talk] [nylug-job] Shulman Fleming & Partners seeks
  118. 2006-06-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] selsok-at-yahoo.com: [CFSG-forum] Rev. with
  119. 2006-06-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: reference
  120. 2006-06-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: reference
  121. 2006-06-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Video Editing
  122. 2006-06-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Status
  123. 2006-06-15 WWWhatsup <joly-at-dti.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Techweb intro to Linux
  124. 2006-06-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] enjoy
  125. 2006-06-15 ronny abraham <ronny.coder-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] enjoy
  126. 2006-06-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] General Memebership Meeting
  127. 2006-06-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] enjoy
  128. 2006-06-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [enviro-at-pilosoft.com: latest on drm/tv?]
  129. 2006-06-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] General Memebership Meeting
  130. 2006-06-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Wikipedia in the News
  131. 2006-06-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Slackware ISO's
  132. 2006-06-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OP-ED - GNU/Windows
  133. 2006-06-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [rguerin-at-nylug.org: [nylug-talk] [nylug-job] Opsware seeks Senior Consulting Engineer]
  134. 2006-06-19 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [nylug-talk] [nylug-job] Opsware seeks Senior Consulting
  135. 2006-06-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Supervising Pharmacist Resignation
  136. 2006-06-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting This Week
  137. 2006-06-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM OP-ED in Boston
  138. 2006-06-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Verizon price riot
  139. 2006-06-19 WWWhatsup <joly-at-dti.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Senate Commerce Committee Communications Bill
  140. 2006-06-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Senate Commerce Committee Communications Bill
  141. 2006-06-20 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] TOMORROW! NY Linux Users Group Meeting 6/21: Francis Hwang on Ruby
  142. 2006-06-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] TOMORROW! NY Linux Users Group Meeting 6/21: Francis Hwang on Ruby Programming Language
  143. 2006-06-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting This Week
  144. 2006-06-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ron-at-vnetworx.net: [nylug-volunteers] Video/Audio help needed for the meeting tomorrow]
  145. 2006-06-21 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [nylug-talk] Array 12 drives
  146. 2006-06-21 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Keep the Internet Free
  147. 2006-06-21 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal
  148. 2006-06-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Blue Tooth Laptop
  149. 2006-06-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Programming Sysadmin position
  150. 2006-06-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell News
  151. 2006-06-22 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Fwd: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell News
  152. 2006-06-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: Fwd: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell News
  153. 2006-06-22 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Blue Tooth Laptop
  154. 2006-06-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Blue Tooth Laptop
  155. 2006-06-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell News
  156. 2006-06-22 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: Fwd: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell News
  157. 2006-06-16 ronny abraham <ronny.coder-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] General Memebership Meeting
  158. 2006-06-23 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Blue Tooth Laptop
  159. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Human Thought
  160. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Blue Tooth Laptop
  161. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The original Web
  162. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [tqs1757-at-nyu.edu: [ISOC-NY Discussion] Fight for a Free Press]
  163. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Network Nuetral
  164. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Legistlative front
  165. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Entertainment Japanese style
  166. 2006-06-23 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Entertainment Japanese style
  167. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Bill Gates committing piracy on the internet
  168. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Entertainment Japanese style
  169. 2006-06-23 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Entertainment Japanese style
  170. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Entertainment Japanese style
  171. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [rguerin-at-nylug.org: [nylug-talk] [nylug-job] San Antonio Company seeks Linux Systems Administrator]
  172. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Going Off Line for a few days
  173. 2006-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Only the Good Die young
  174. 2006-06-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] While NYLXS going off the air for a few days is not the end of the world....
  175. 2006-06-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Almost Real
  176. 2006-06-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jobs
  177. 2006-06-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Hardhats-members] Pharmacy snafu ... enforced dosing schedules]

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